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Title: Coward Cop Shoots Woman Walking With Knife, Ignoring Innocent Woman Behind Her
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URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/bo ... eaver-ignoring-innocent-woman/
Published: May 13, 2016
Author: Justin Gardner
Post Date: 2016-05-14 12:35:10 by Deckard
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Views: 2641
Comments: 48
Greensboro, NC – The family of Chieu Di Thi Vo is challenging the Greensboro police department’s assertion that officer Tim Bloch’s fatal shooting of Vo was justified. For two years, the city refused to release bodycam footage of the shooting, but the shocking video has now been made public. The entire video lasts less than a minute, and less than 10 seconds passes from the time Bloch made initial contact to the fifth and final shot. Vo died in the hospital two days later. Vo, who was 47 and had bipolar disorder, was carrying a large knife and reportedly chasing her mother around the Aberdeen Townhomes complex. A witness had called 911 to report the incident. The video shows Vo walking down the path in the vicinity of Bloch, but as family attorney Tin Nguyen points out, she was not lunging toward him or even going in his direction. She seemed unaware of Bloch’s presence, Officer Bloch can be heard yelling “Put it down!” and almost immediately begins firing. There is a person standing directly behind Vo—most likely her mother—who amazingly did not get hit by a stray bullet. Even though Vo was carrying a knife, the swift use of deadly force is questionable. She was not coming directly at Bloch and no one else was in immediate danger. Bloch could have easily backed up to allow more time to defuse the situation. And why wasn’t a Taser deployed first? Bloch believes he did everything right, saying, “Wow, this is black and white.’ I couldn’t have done anything better.” He was cleared of wrongdoing by the Guilford County District Attorney. In fact, other cops have said the video should be used for training. Contrast this with the way police in the UK have dealt with knife-wielding suspects who were much stronger and more agile than Vo, or the Ohio cop who amazingly did not kill a disturbed man with a knife. But far too often, American cops have a reputation for resorting to deadly force, especially with the mentally ill. “An encounter that short seems like injustice,” said Nguyen. “Greensboro has a policy on how to deal with the mentally ill that they did not follow.”“We saw she had a knife, but she wasn’t lunging,” said Nguyen. “She was a good distance away, maybe 10 feet, not even moving in his direction. She was following a path. He didn’t seem to register to her. She didn’t look up”
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
For someone with a knife, that's a bad distance away. 21 feet is a good distance away. 40 feet is even better. "And why wasn’t a Taser deployed first?" Because the officer didn't want to die.
Why didn't he shoot the knife out of her hand?
He was trying. He missed.
Why didn’t he do it like they do in the movies, discard his gun and then engage Vo in a “fair” knife-to-knife combat? Officer Bloch could have reacted like Sylvester Stallone in the film Cobra where as a city cop Stallone must stop a knife using serial killer and cult member. There is a fight scene at the end involving a knife fight between Stallone's character Cobra and the Night Slasher. We can only surmise that Officer Bloch did not watch the movie Cobra or there could have been a different slant to this story. Maybe police departments should include the movie Cobra in their take-down training. Just an idea ...
Looks to me like the cop was in no danger of being killed, let alone being attacked. She didn't lunge at him or make any aggressive move towards him. She was walking down the street, and in fact looked to be unaware of the "hero's" presence. He must have given her all of two seconds to comply with his order to drop the knife before he killed her. But hey - what's the point arguing with the "cops are gods and can do no wrong" cabal? They'll find a way to defend this cold blooded murder because the cop claimed he "feared for his life". The magic words that will exonerate any cop who indiscriminately kills a citizen who is absolutely no threat. The least reliable source there is.
You really believe that? You are more delusional than I thought. ESAD boot-licker. Bad News: As for dying, that is going to happen. But many years from now. Generations of the males in my family have live to the century mark. Good News: You can expect years of continued reading of my highly educational posts here on LF.
The fact remains - this woman made no aggressive moves towards the cop, he was not being threatened in any way and gunned her down for no reason other than he was a chicken-shit coward. Contrast this with the way police in the UK have dealt with knife-wielding suspects who were much stronger and more agile than Vo, or the Ohio cop who amazingly did not kill a disturbed man with a knife. But far too often, American cops have a reputation for resorting to deadly force, especially with the mentally ill. There's the reason most folks here think you're an asshole - I hope you become a victim of the drug war, by a zero-dark-thirty, no-knock SWAT raid because the cops had the wrong address. If he did not follow procedures, he will be reprimanded or punished. If he did, then he will return to duty. Those are "the facts that remains." I contrast nothing ... I am dealing with the situation at hand, the subject of this thread.
It may come as a shock to you to learn that I just don't give a shit about what you Paultard idiots think of me here on LF. I can were the title of "asshole" from ignorant Paultards with honor. And I forever will ...
The two links posted are relevant to the discussion. Not that facts ever mattered to you anyways. You can also wear the title of LF's least intelligent poster. Horrendously bad video. Shows nothing. Need to go back to the days of nightsticks and taser. Give police the ability to disarm people without killing them. This really is a federal government and lawyer murder. Please must have real ways of dealing with mentally unstable people without getting harmed too.
Please must have real ways of dealing with mentally unstable people without getting harmed too. A well thought out post. I agree. Uhhhh,I got bad news for you. She was bi-polar (10 dollar word for nuts),carrying a large knife,had been chasing her own mother with that knife,and was only ten feet away from the cop and heading in his general direction. Good shoot. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Please tell me you're not serious. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
How did that happen? "Police"
Why WOULDN'T he have been fearing for his life? Here was whack job with a Yuge knife that had been chasing her own mother with it and threatening to kill her. I would consider all 4 justifications as good first clues she was dangerous. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Yes,they will. The city will want to find justification so they don't have to pay out millions in a wrongful death suit. If he did not, then punishment will be administered. If they find it was cold blooded murder, then they will bring him to trial, find him guilty and punish him to the full extent of the law. ROFLMAO! Good one! At MOST they will fire him and give him a letter of recommendation so he can get another cop job somewhere else. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Even the first four shots at point-blank range had no effect. Had she attacked him, he would have had a knife in his neck before she went down.
Tasers don't work very well,and sometimes not at all,on people high on meth or who are nutcases by nature. I'm betting a lot of meth heads would thank the cop for the rush. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
There ain't no such thing as a safe way to deal with a head case that is armed. The best you can hope to do is keep some distance from them and try to distract them so a couple of other cops or orderlies can come up on them from behind and smother them with body mass. Even that is taking a chance. The insane are insanely strong. The surest way I know of to get your ass beat to the ground is to get in a fight with somebody and try to not hurt them. You might do that once,but you won't even do it again. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Crazy people don't just fall down and die unless it's from a head shot or a spine shot. Anything else and you had better be backing up as you are shooting if they are close. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
I'm betting a lot of meth heads would thank the cop for the rush. Thats when the office needs to make his mind up what to do. Is it a crazy person that taser or a nightstick can take care of or is it some person hyped up on drugs and he just has to put them down. I believe this is a federal government and lawyer murder. They have taken the ability of people to defend themselves with out being bankrupt by lawyers and thrown in jail because of some progressive federal judge making a name for themselves!
The thing is when they are armed with a knife,10 feet away and chasing their own mother to murder her,the decison-making is no longer in your hands. Circumstances beyond your control have already dictated what you must do. Life ain't always easy. BTW,you never see cops with nightsticks anymore because too many people were dying from busted skulls. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Today police have to watch out for gang bangers and pissed off family members attacking them from the back. I think in this case if given the chance the officer could have taser her or broke her arm with a night stick. But that would have been a lawyers wet dream. Officer was put in a crappy situations and did what he thought was right.
Thats the truth. Federal government and lawyers making it harder day by day.
Agreed. Sometimes there just aren't any good answers. There is only surviving and insuring innocents survive. It sucks,but life is that way sometimes. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Thats the truth. Federal government and lawyers making it harder day by day. No argument there from me! BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
I can pick your posts apart all day with typos and mistakes. You want to start engaging in a spelling Nazi warfare, shithead. Then let the games begin ...
The two links posted are relevant to the discussion. Not that facts ever mattered to you anyways. Why don't you start using your own words and thoughts for a change and stop with the paste and copy bullshit letting everyone else do your thinking. You do have a mind of your own, right? Then start to fuck using it and quit being a lapdog for other people's ideas and opinions. Just some good sound advise ... of course you will ignore it. It did me good however, to post it ...
Why don't you start using your own words and thoughts for a change and stop with the paste and copy bullshit Listen you ignorant fuckwad. Those links showed that cops DO have options when dealing with someone holding a knife. letting everyone else do your thinking. Oh, the irony. You have never had an original thought your entire life. What an assclown you are. None when you are a criminals, inner city zoo animals and drug addicts are gods and can do no wrong cabal. So F' off, Sonny. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Stated from a Hypo needle and bong licker. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Obviously that is just a nervous laugh by you, Pete, to cover up your ignorance. Police Officers are tried and convicted when there is sufficient evidence presented to charge and convict them. That is the American way. For you and any other non-believer, here are just a few of the cases I quickly looked up: Officer Jason Blackwelder had evidence presented against him that he shot a perp in the back of the head. Blackwelder was charged by a grand jury for manslaughter and making false statements. He was convicted in a jury trial. A South Carolina police officer has been charged with murder after a video of shooting a black man running away from him became public - months after previous cases of police killings. In Baltimore, Police Officer Tommy Sanders was indicted for voluntary manslaughter while on duty when he shot and killed Edward Lamont Hunt. More recently, two police officers in Albuquerque, New Mexico, have been charged with first degree murder after shooting a homeless man in the hills behind the city as he appeared to surrender, and a policeman in Alabama faces assault charges after shoving an Indian man to the ground, partially paralysing him. Last September, Jonathan Ferrell, 24, a former college football player, was shot by Officer Randall Kerrick as he attempted to get help after being involved a car crash late at night in Charlotte, North Carolina. As I stated, these are just some of the instances where police are arrested or charged for violent incidents related to their police work … there are more. You have a problem, Pete. The problem you, Deckard, and all the other cop-hating assholes have is that you want to see EVERY officer brought to trial and convicted for EVERY police shooting. Well, dickhead, I have some flash news for all of you … IT AIN”T GONNA HAPPEN YOUR WAY. So, learn to live with it …
Wrong. I "originally thought" thought that you were an idiot the first time I read a post by you. See how wrong you always are. I am not an assclown, as you say ... I am a purveyor of truth. And a founding member of the fabulous Canary Clan ... known for truth and justice.
I'm not the one that is ignorant,and truth to tell,I don't think you are ignorant on this issue,either. I think you are just in kneejerk coverup mode. Yeah,an occasional cop is charged,tried,and convicted of crimes,but it is always when there are witnesses and photographic/film proof that can't be denied or covered up that the cop is guilty beyond all doubt. Police departments are NOT known for taking hard looks for any evidence of the crimes committed by their own cops. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
I repeat: Why don't you start using your own words and thoughts for a change and stop with the paste and copy bullshit?
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#2. To: misterwhite (#1)
#3. To: Roscoe (#2)
"Why didn't he shoot the knife out of her hand?"
#4. To: misterwhite, Roscoe (#3)
(Edited)
"Why didn't he shoot the knife out of her hand?"
#5. To: misterwhite, Roscoe, GrandIsland, Gatlin (#1)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#6. To: Deckard (#5)
Looks to me like the cop was in no danger of being killed
#7. To: Deckard, misterwhite, Roscoe, GrandIsland (#5)
Looks to me like the cop was in no danger of being killed, let alone being attacked. She didn't lunge at him or make any aggressive move towards him. She was walking down the street, and in fact looked to be unaware of the "hero's" presence.
You looking at a video in the comfort and safety of your home and a cop looking at a maniac 10 feet from him with a knife is her hand who had just been chasing her mother with the knife … are two entirely different aspects. Sergeant Dennis Tueller, of the Salt Lake City, Utah Police Department wondered how quickly an attacker with a knife could cover 21 feet (6.4 m), so he timed volunteers as they raced to stab the target. He determined that it could be done in 1.5 seconds.
How long would it take her to turn and charge the cop? According to the Tueller test, exactly .75 seconds. The .75 seconds does not leave sufficient reaction time to stop her. He yelled at her to drop the knife, and she did not. Her mother was there within a few feet of her, as were probably others. He must have given her all of two seconds to comply with his order to drop the knife before he killed her. But hey - what's the point arguing with the "cops are gods and can do no wrong" cabal?
He gave her two seconds while she would have given him .75 seconds. Where is the parity in that from the cop-hating cabal? They'll find a way to defend this cold blooded murder because the cop claimed he "feared for his life".
They’ll investigate to see if he followed published procedures. If he did not, then punishment will be administered. If they find it was cold blooded murder, then they will bring him to trial, find him guilty and punish him to the full extent of the law. You are aware that cops have been tried and convicted of murder … right? They have before, and they will be again … whenever there is sufficient evidence to prosecute them. The magic words that will exonerate any cop who indiscriminately kills a citizen who is absolutely no threat.
Sorry to shock you, sport … but sitting there in the comfort of your home watching a video doesn’t give you the qualification or right to decide that Vo was no threat to the cop or others close by. Furthermore, “magic words” do not exonerate a cop of anything. A trial by jury of his peers, or a decision by a judge, can only do that. It’s the American way … God Bless America.
#8. To: Gatlin (#7)
(Edited)
Furthermore, “magic words” do not exonerate a cop of anything.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#9. To: Deckard (#8)
Furthermore, “magic words” do not exonerate a cop of anything.
Of course.
You really believe that?
You are more delusional than I thought.
Not delusional, just and objective fact finder. ESAD boot-licker.
I don’t eat shit. but I do love to figuratively shove it in your face and rub it in when posting to you.
#10. To: Gatlin (#9)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#11. To: Gatlin (#9)
You can expect years of continued reading of my highly educational posts here on LF.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#12. To: Deckard (#10)
Contrast this with ...
#13. To: Deckard (#11)
There's the reason most folks here think you're an asshole ...
#14. To: Gatlin (#12)
I am dealing with the situation at hand, the subject of this thread.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#15. To: Gatlin (#13)
I can were the title of "asshole"
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#16. To: Deckard (#0)
#17. To: Justified (#16)
Give police the ability to disarm people without killing them.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#18. To: Deckard (#0)
“We saw she had a knife, but she wasn’t lunging,” said Nguyen. “She was a good distance away, maybe 10 feet, not even moving in his direction. She was following a path. He didn’t seem to register to her. She didn’t look up”
#19. To: Roscoe (#2)
Why didn't he shoot the knife out of her hand?
#20. To: All (#16)
This really is a federal government and lawyer murder. Please must have real ways of dealing with mentally unstable people without getting harmed too.
#21. To: Deckard (#5)
They'll find a way to defend this cold blooded murder because the cop claimed he "feared for his life". T
#22. To: Gatlin (#7)
They’ll investigate to see if he followed published procedures.
#23. To: Gatlin (#7)
"The .75 seconds does not leave sufficient reaction time to stop her."
#24. To: Justified (#16)
Need to go back to the days of nightsticks and taser. Give police the ability to disarm people without killing them.
#25. To: Deckard, Justified (#17)
Please must have real ways of dealing with mentally unstable people without getting harmed too.
#26. To: misterwhite (#23)
Even the first four shots at point-blank range had no effect. Had she attacked him, he would have had a knife in his neck before she went down.
#27. To: sneakypete (#24)
Tasers don't work very well,and sometimes not at all,on people high on meth or who are nutcases by nature.
#28. To: Justified (#27)
(Edited)
Thats when the office needs to make his mind up what to do. Is it a crazy person that taser or a nightstick can take care of or is it some person hyped up on drugs and he just has to put them down.
#29. To: sneakypete, Deckard (#25)
There ain't no such thing as a safe way to deal with a head case that is armed. The best you can hope to do is keep some distance from them and try to distract them so a couple of other cops or orderlies can come up on them from behind and smother them with body mass.
#30. To: sneakypete (#28)
Life ain't always easy.
#31. To: Justified (#29)
Officer was put in a crappy situations and did what he thought was right.
#32. To: Justified (#30)
Life ain't always easy.
#33. To: Deckard (#15)
#34. To: Deckard (#14)
I am dealing with the situation at hand, the subject of this thread.
#35. To: Gatlin (#34)
(Edited)
The two links posted are relevant to the discussion.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#36. To: Deckard (#5)
But hey - what's the point arguing with the "cops are gods and can do no wrong" cabal?
#37. To: Deckard (#8)
ESAD boot-licker
#38. To: sneakypete (#22)
ROFLMAO!
#39. To: Deckard (#35)
(Edited)
You have never had an original thought your entire life.
The Canary Clan is charged with the responsibility to search impartially for the facts or actualities of a subject or situation. It is eminently qualified to perform this charge by devoting considerable time, deep reflection, careful deliberation, and serious consultation to approach decisions without any particular ideology or agenda. The Canary Clan has a commitment to respect precedent, fairness and a determination to faithfully present the facts.
Long live freedom of speech, long live the Canary Clan and God Bless America!
#40. To: GrandIsland (#37)
Obviously that is just a nervous laugh by you, Pete, to cover up your ignorance.
#41. To: Deckard (#35)
Why don't you start using your own words and thoughts for a change and stop with the paste and copy bullshit?
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