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Title: Jim Robinson offers his input on the first amendment
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URL Source: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3430043/posts
Published: May 12, 2016
Author: Jim Robinson
Post Date: 2016-05-12 18:05:43 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 10909
Comments: 60

FR has never been a “free speech” forum.

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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

FR has never been a “free speech” forum.

FR has never been a public place.

Free speech is not protected in non public places. Posting in FR or LF is a privilege.

Why shouldn't the wheel chair veggie have a say in a forum owned by him?

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-05-12   18:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

FUJR

Willie Green  posted on  2016-05-12   19:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Willie Green (#2)

FUJR

If the human carrot hates a libtard like you, he can't be that bad of a carrot.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-05-12   19:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: no gnu taxes. loser McCain, loser Romney, loser Trump (#0)

RimJob has a right to help Hillary by pushing that sure-loser Trump. This is America, where your right to do dumb shiite is protected in the US Constitution/BOR.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-05-12   19:33:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#4)

This is America, where your right to do dumb shiite is protected in the US Constitution/BOR.

hondo68

Yep, and it inclues letting a dumb shiite like hondo68 spout his drivel.

tpaine  posted on  2016-05-12   19:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Y'ALL (#0)

Jim Robinson offers his input on the first amendment, --- say it my way, -- or take the highway..

tpaine  posted on  2016-05-12   20:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

I was Trump when Trump wasn't cool, but I STILL can't get reinstated on that site.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-05-12   22:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: GrandIsland (#1)

Why shouldn't the wheel chair veggie have a say in a forum owned by him?

He doesn't own the site; the NSA took it a decade ago.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-12   22:13:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: tpaine (#6)

Jim Robinson offers his input on the first amendment, --- say it my way, -- or take the highway..

The 1st amendment doesn't apply to his forum anymore than you havethe right to flap your Paultard shit in my house. You'll say what I let you say in my house or I'll toss you out the front door before I open the door.

Yet... you spin your yella bullshit about the loss of rights that never applied in the first place.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-05-12   22:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GrandIsland (#9)

"You have the right to remain violent..."

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-05-12   23:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: GrandIsland (#9)

Seems to me TP's flapping his paultard shit in your house every time you read his posts, dummy. Watcha gonna do, lay there and bleed?

Logsplitter  posted on  2016-05-12   23:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GrandIsland (#1)

FR has never been a public place.

Free speech is not protected in non public places. Posting in FR or LF is a privilege.

Why shouldn't the wheel chair veggie have a say in a forum owned by him?

Sure he can.

He can do whatever he wants in his house.

Of course, if one day he says Bush is a coke head and the next day he praises Bush, and then spouts other unintelligible beliefs, and wants to charge large sums of money to enter his house, it is my right to make fun of him.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-05-13   0:09:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: GrandIsland (#9)

Jim Robinson offers his input on the first amendment, --- say it my way, -- or take the highway..

The 1st amendment doesn't apply to his forum anymore than you havethe right to flap your Paultard shit in my house. You'll say what I let you say in my house or I'll toss you out the front door before I open the door.

JR invited me into his house back in 1998, and I stayed there, exercising my rights to free speech until 2005, or thereabouts, when he started getting sick in the head.

Yet... you spin your yella bullshit about the loss of rights that never applied in the first place.

If I ever accepted an invite to your house,(doubtful) I'd say what I pleased, -- till you asked me politely to leave. -- If you weren't polite, I'd kick your ass on my way out..

That's the way it is, in real life. -- Which , of course, you wouldn't know.

tpaine  posted on  2016-05-13   1:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: tpaine (#13) (Edited)

If I ever accepted an invite to your house,(doubtful) I'd say what I pleased, -- till you asked me politely to leave. -- If you weren't polite, I'd kick your ass on my way out..

If you need to be told to leave, then it won't be politely. You'd go from talking like an asshole to waking up in the local hospital. Just be lucky you're alive.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-05-13   1:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Logsplitter (#11)

You mad, spermspitter?

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-05-13   1:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: GrandIsland (#14)

As I said, it's really doubtful that I'd accept an invite to a house like yours, but I, and a LOT of others, did accept JR's, -- to his forum, to discuss the affairs of the day and to exercise our rights to speak freely.

After a few years, JR started banning people for their political opinions, no matter how reasonably they expressed them. --- That's when I, and a lot of others, gave up on him.

His physical disabilities got the best of him, and affected his mental health, imo..

You too should see a shrink..

tpaine  posted on  2016-05-13   1:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: tpaine (#16)

no matter how reasonably they expressed them.

I've honestly never seen an "anything goes" Paultatd be "reasonable.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-05-13   1:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GrandIsland (#17)

After a few years, JR started banning people for their political opinions, no matter how reasonably they expressed them. --- That's when I, and a lot of others, gave up on him.

His physical disabilities got the best of him, and affected his mental health, imo..

You too should see a shrink..

I've honestly never seen an "anything goes" Paultatd be "reasonable.

Well, there you go, proving once again that you're simply incapable of being reasonable. -- Really, get help..

tpaine  posted on  2016-05-13   1:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: GrandIsland (#1)

You love Free Republic and JR.

A Pole  posted on  2016-05-13   3:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: GrandIsland (#9)

You'll say what I let you say in my house or I'll toss you out the front door before I open the door

You must a charming host, and everyone around dreams about being invited.

A Pole  posted on  2016-05-13   3:38:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: tpaine (#16)

His physical disabilities got the best of him, and affected his mental health, imo..

The Grifter is in it for the money, just like Glenn Beck, swindling the politically paranoid with his perpetual Begathons... WooHoo!

Willie Green  posted on  2016-05-13   5:24:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: buckeroo (#8)

" He doesn't own the site; the NSA took it a decade ago. "

Really ?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-05-13   6:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: GrandIsland (#1)

FR has never been a public place.
Free speech is not protected in non public places. Posting in FR or LF is a privilege.
Why shouldn't the wheel chair veggie have a say in a forum owned by him?

I believe the author of the article recognized that. His objection was to his fundraising page which stated, "We are beholden to no political party,” and “... we are fiercely independent and enjoy our freedom to speak plainly.”

misterwhite  posted on  2016-05-13   8:37:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: GrandIsland, tpaine (#14)

You'd go from talking like an asshole to waking up in the local hospital. Just be lucky you're alive.

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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-13   10:45:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A Pole (#19)

I could honestly give two turds about that site and the veggie that runs it. I posted once or twice about 10 years ago and was banned.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-05-13   19:55:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: GrandIsland, gatlin, y'all (#25)

After a few years, JR started banning people for their political opinions, no matter how reasonably they expressed them. --- That's when I, and a lot of others, gave up on him.

His physical disabilities got the best of him, and affected his mental health, imo..

You too, grandisland, should see a shrink..

I could honestly give two turds about that site and the veggie that runs it. I posted once or twice about 10 years ago and was banned.

That figures. Two strikes and a weirdo like you would be out on most sites.

But here on LF, you fit right in with the gatlin group..

tpaine  posted on  2016-05-13   20:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: tpaine, GrandIsland (#26) (Edited)

... the Gatlin Group.

You pinged ...

The Canary Clan is charged with the responsibility to search impartially for the facts or actualities of a subject or situation. It is eminently qualified to perform this charge by devoting considerable time, deep reflection, careful deliberation, and serious consultation to approach decisions without any particular ideology or agenda. The Canary Clan has a commitment to respect precedent, fairness and a determination to faithfully present the facts.
You gotta walk that lonesome valley.
Long live freedom of speech, long live the Canary Clan and God Bless America!

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-13   21:46:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Gatlin (#27)

The Canary Clan is charged with the responsibility to search ...

You are just another drag queen slowing the free exchange of electronic inter-communications.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-13   21:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: buckeroo (#28)

ROTFLMAO@U...

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-13   21:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Gatlin (#29)

As a self-professed potatoe peeler, is that all you can profess for and about your worthless life working in a mezzanine hall for twenty years?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-13   22:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeroo, Gatlin, hondo68 (#28)

You are just another drag queen

Probably one reason he is so gaga over Trump, since the Trumpster looks to welcome Rudy the cross-dresser to the "team".

Donald Trump Says Rudy Giuliani Could Be His Anti-Terrorism Guru

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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-14   1:03:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Deckard (#31)

Wow! That was a really intelligent post.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-14   1:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Gatlin (#32)

Sometimes, a picture can say a thousand words.

Trump and Ghouliani make a cute couple, don't you think?

And you're the one voting for the clown in the picture.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-14   1:30:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Deckard (#33)

... the clown in the picture.

The salary for Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Baily clowns ranges from $85,000 to $92,000 a year.

The rodeo clowns who distract bulls so riders can get away safely from them earn about $51,000 a year.

Donald Trump’s yearly salary is $476,500,000.

With that kind of income, I certainly would never call Trump a clown.

But give me a 476 million dollar a year in income and you can call me a Otto Griebling.

Otto Griebling was the prolific and influential Master Clown with the Cole Bros. and Ringling circuses. He was single most admired and respected American circus clown of the 20th century. Oh, what a shocker for you to learn that a clown can be admired and respected … after your failed attempt to make a disparaging remark.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-14   3:14:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Gatlin (#34)

With that kind of income, I certainly would never call Trump a clown.

But give me a 476 million dollar a year in income and you can call me a Otto Griebling.

A highly paid clown is still a clown.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-14   4:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: misterwhite (#23)

His objection was to his fundraising page which stated, "We are beholden to no political party,” and “... we are fiercely independent and enjoy our freedom to speak plainly.”

A fraudulent extortion of money?

A Pole  posted on  2016-05-14   5:11:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Deckard (#35)

Well, sonny boy ... before long, he will be YOUR president.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-14   7:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A Pole (#36)

"A fraudulent extortion of money?"

Well, if you contribute to the site thinking you have the freedom to speak plainly, criticize Trump, and then get banned ... yeah, I'd say that was a fraudulent extortion of money.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-05-14   8:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: misterwhite (#38)

Class action suit?

A Pole  posted on  2016-05-14   8:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A Pole (#39)

"Class action suit?"

Pffft! I don't believe in rewarding people for stupid acts.

Sign up on the site and post what you want. If you don't get banned, then consider contributing.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-05-14   9:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: tpaine (#18)

Well, there you go, proving once again that you're simply incapable of being reasonable. -- Really, get help..

Some people are so afraid of or incapable of independent thought and independent speech that there is no way to help them,so they become cops.

They only thrive in group-think situations,and they are only comfortable working in packs.

Freedom scares them,rules make them feel safe,warm,and comfy,and enforcing rules when the odds are in their favor and they are the only ones with weapons makes them feel like the big boys their mommies told them they were.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-05-14   9:43:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Deckard (#33)

Trump and Ghouliani make a cute couple, don't you think?

Without his inherited wealth,that is about as close to an actual woman that he could hope to score with.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-05-14   9:47:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Gatlin, buckeroo, Deckard (#32)

Wow!

Yes, The Donald is likely to appoint you Czar of Transgender Bathrooms!


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-05-14   10:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: hondo68 (#43)

The Donald is likely to appoint you Czar of Transgender Bathrooms!

I could not accept the job because I would have trouble comprehending a person’s life as a closeted transsexual. I have read the thing to understand about the life of a closeted transsexual is that they are endlessly posting stupid pictures and cartoons on a forum captioned with snide remarks.

Another problem I would have accepting the job is that I would constantly be grasping for clues regarding what kind of behavior to expect from a closeted transsexual during his nerve-wracking struggle to fit in. Perhaps you can help me. Do you find your natural inclinations on how to act are wrong for you in your perceived gender life? When these “wrong” things come out for you, is it simply an awkward silence or sometimes mockery?

Perhaps the biggest problem I would have in dealing with a closeted transsexual is the consequence indirectly implied above … that is self- loathing. By the way, how are you handling your problem with this?

Hopefully this helps to explain why I could not accept the job and at the same time make your coming out aspect more understandable to those in your life.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-14   11:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Gatlin (#44)

I am confident that no one understands your grief given the facts that yukon is your kind of man.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-14   11:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#44)

Do you find your natural inclinations on how to act are wrong for you in your perceived gender life? When these “wrong” things come out for you, is it simply an awkward silence or sometimes mockery?

Perhaps you should direct your questions to Ghouliani - he seems to be the one with gender-identity issues.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-14   11:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Deckard, sarge (#46)

Everyone should wonder about sarge's posts after all, he was a fan of yukon.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-14   12:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: buckeroo (#45)

I am confident that no one understands ...

Now my soul is troubled, and what shall I say? ... John 12:27

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-14   12:19:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: buckeroo (#47) (Edited)

Everyone should wonder about sarge's posts ...

Everyone?

I just checked my pings and that obviously in not the case. I only see my most dedicated fans, LF’s very own Three Stooges, still following me around and hanging onto ever word I post, so intently focused on me. Shucks … it feels good to be so highly admired.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-14   12:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: misterwhite (#40)

Pffft! I don't believe in rewarding people for stupid acts

But you want JimRom to keep money he got on false pretences?

A Pole  posted on  2016-05-14   12:46:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: A Pole (#50)

"But you want JimRom to keep money he got on false pretences?"

Are you suggesting we use civil asset forfeiture to take the money?

To answer your question, yes. Anyone dumb enough to give money to a site that censors political speech deserves to lose it.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-05-14   15:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

FR has never been a “free speech” forum.

Of course not, nor need it be - but that wasn't the point of the article to which JR was disingenuously responding. The article's point, which he ducked:

"If Facebook has a right to turn itself into a clone of Huffington Post, then Free Republic has a right to turn itself into a volunteer propaganda organ for the Trump campaign.

"But those of us on the right should take a deep breath and wonder whether adopting a policy of political uniformity—in this case, not loyalty to an ideology or even a party, but loyalty to a single man—is importing the same illiberal habits of thought that we denounce when we encounter them on the left. And the same hypocritical preening about how independent and free- thinking we still are."

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-14   16:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: misterwhite (#51)

Anyone dumb enough to give money to a site that censors political speech deserves to lose it.

Given it probably takes less than $200 a year to run that website, and he manages to finagle more than 300K a year from it, I guess you have to admire his PT Barnum mentality.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-05-14   16:46:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: no gnu taxes, misterwhite (#53) (Edited)

Given it probably takes less than $200 a year to run that website, and he manages to finagle more than 300K a year from it, I guess you have to admire his PT Barnum mentality.

Interesting expense report at https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/budget. $7000 per month for "Systems and Programming"?! So sonny-boy has an $84K "job" at FR?

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-14   17:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: misterwhite (#51)

Anyone dumb enough to give money to a site that censors political speech deserves to lose it.

FR bans those with higher than room temperature IQs.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-05-14   17:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Roscoe (#55)

FR bans those with higher than room temperature IQs.

And also you and your little buddy.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-14   17:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: ConservingFreedom, no gnu taxes, misterwhite (#54)

Interesting expense report at https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/budget. $7000 per month for "Systems and Programming"?! So sonny-boy has an $84K "job" at FR?

http://www.freerepublic.com/home.htm

Who runs FR?

Free Republic, LLC is a non-commercial, limited liability company founded and operated by Jim Robinson (jimrob@psnw.com), a private citizen of Fresno California.

Free Republic is not a for profit commercial enterprise in the sense of a traditional business selling a product or service at a profit for its shareholders. We sell no product or service. We have no clients, customers or employees. We do not accept paid advertising. Free Republic is not affiliated with any political party, group, news source, government agency or anyone else.

Free Republic is not a traditional business. We are a political discussion forum and independent grassroots conservative activist group supported by donations from our readers and participants. When and if our participants decide we are no longer needed or viable, we will close down shop and go away.

Free Republic operates on an approximate $360,000 annual budget (click for breakdown) which includes all equipment costs, bandwidth fees, consulting and labor costs, administrative costs, license fees, insurance, rents, communications costs, office expenses, advertising, travel, professional fees, banking and credit card fees, taxes, etc. Like most labor intensive organizations, the bulk of our costs are personnel related. We have one general manager and webmaster, one systems, programming and computer guru, one programming and management assistant and one bookkeeper/business administrator. The four of us are all members (partners) of the LLC. We own and operate our own servers and our proprietary software was developed and is maintained inhouse.

Free Republic is not a charity or IRS non-profit organization. We do not raise funds for charitable purposes or causes. We raise funds solely to cover our operating costs, labor, and all applicable state and federal income and payroll taxes.

- - - - -

Free Republic, LLC is a non-commercial, limited liability company

Free Republic LLC is a for-profit company. The LLC is the owner of the website. Jim Robinson is one of the members of the LLC.

Free Republic is not a for profit commercial enterprise in the sense of a traditional business selling a product or service at a profit for its shareholders.

Free Republic is a for-profit enterprise in the sense of making money for the members of the LLC.

It operates as a pass-through corporation, with the profits passing through to the LLC members, to be reported by them as personal income.

Saying FR is not a for profit commercial enterprise in the sense of a traditional business is but to avoid overtly saying that FRis a for profit enterprise in what FR says is a non-traditional business. When the wordsmithing is boiled down, FR is a for-profit business.

Just for the record, here is where the court determined Free Republic was a for-profit limited liability company.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/266069666/LA-Times-v-Free-Republic-CACD-98-7840-Doc-73-ORDER-by-Judge-Morrow-GRANTING-Plfs-Motion-for-Partial-Summary-Judgment

Page 5: [footnotes omitted]

B. Defendants' Profit Or Non-Profit Status

The parties dispute whether Free Republic is a for-profit or not-far-profit entity. Despite this purported disagreement, it appears uncontroverted that Free Republic is presently a for-profit limited liability company. Free Republic's corporate counsel is currently preparing documents seeking tax-exempt status for the Free Republic Institute, a company incorporated on September 27, 1999. Nothing has yet been submitted to the IRS, however, and tax-exempt status has not been granted.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-05-14   17:38:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: nolu chan (#57)

So FR produces nothing, offers no services other than the existence of the website, and the corporation just funnels money as income to its owners?

Who woulda thunk it.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-05-14   19:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: no gnu taxes (#58)

Who woulda thunk it.

The court certainly did. Back at the time of the lawsuit, FR, LLC claimed to be a not-for-profit organization.

FR's changing self-description:

2/29/2000: "Free Republic, LLC is a non-commercial not-for-profit (filing for 501(c)(4) non-profit status is pending) limited liability company."

2/8/2001: "Free Republic is not a for profit commercial enterprise in the sense of a traditional business selling a product or service at a profit for its shareholders."

The 2001 sleight of hand does not claim FR is a non-profit. It claims FR is not a for profit commercial enterprise in the sense of a traditional business, i.e., it is a for-profit business as far as the courts and the IRS are concerned.

The 2001 statement cites FR, not FR LLC. Oe might say it only references the web site, not the corporate entity.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-05-14   19:35:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: nolu chan, (#59)

The court certainly did.

As would anybody who realizes that a very simple website with almost no updates isn't that expensive at all to operate.

Maybe Stone should start running beg-a-thons.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-05-14   21:55:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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