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Title: Hillary Clinton is unraveling quickly
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NY Post
URL Source: http://nypost.com/2016/05/10/hillary-clinton-is-unraveling-quickly/
Published: May 11, 2016
Author: Michael Goodwin
Post Date: 2016-05-11 08:25:37 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 4991
Comments: 37
A liberal friend is very concerned about the Republican Party. He tells me that Donald Trump will make it impossible for anybody anywhere running under the “R” column to win election. Even a dogcatcher in Podunk is doomed! The New York Times shows a similar concern. Surely written with furrowed brow, its front page worries because “Sparring in GOP Rises” and because “Rift Grows Wide as Republicans Abandon Trump.” It joins two other concerned lefties, the Huffington Post and CNBC, in declaring that the GOP is “unraveling.” All stand ready to help sponsor a dignified funeral, but that won’t be necessary. Their reports of the Republican Party’s death are premature. Very premature. A new Quinnipiac poll tells the inconvenient truth. Trump and Hillary Clinton are tied in each of the three key swing states of Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. The breakdown in Florida reveals how truly close the race is. As Politico puts it, Clinton has a 13-point advantage among women, 48 percent to 35 percent, while Trump’s lead among men is also 13 points, 49 percent to 36 percent. Each gets 39 percent of independent voters, while Trump wins big among whites, and Clinton wins big among nonwhites. The candidates have identical net negative approvals of minus 20 points, 37 percent to 57 percent. With the poll showing Bernie Sanders doing better against Trump than Clinton (and Sanders winning the West Virginia primary on Tuesday), I myself am growing concerned about the “unraveling” of the Democratic Party! Big Media’s fixation on the defections of Big-Name Republicans is the latest proof that both groups remain stubbornly disconnected from real Americans. If Trump had been dependent on the support of Mitt Romney or Sen. Lindsey Graham or assorted pundits and donors, he never would have gotten 10 million primary votes. He launched a rocket-fueled revolution, defeated 16 rivals and became the presumptive nominee by running against the entire national establishment, not to mention conventional wisdom and both political parties. Now he’s doomed if Romney doesn’t back him? Nonsense. Yet each day, the drum beats louder about a new and greater threat to GOP harmony. The current one is the insistence from everybody on the left, and a few on the right, that Trump is toast if he can’t get House Speaker Paul Ryan to endorse him. By all means, endorsements are generally a good thing for candidates, and party unity is usually regarded as an essential starting point. But the claim that Trump must finally conform to all the traditional norms repeats the false assumptions that led the media and most Republicans to miss Trump’s astonishing appeal in the first place. He is a phenomenon, much as Barack Obama was in 2008, and he could do to Clinton what Obama did to her then. Obama was fresh, and she was tired. Now Trump is fresh, and Clinton is even more tired. One result is that the campaign will be fought on his turf. The issues most associated with him — immigration, terrorism, trade, jobs — dominated the GOP primaries. Indeed, try to imagine the last year without Trump. Who would have set the GOP agenda, what issues would have led the way, and how would voters have responded? Would turnout have hit record levels when so many Republican voters feel betrayed by their own party leaders? Trump stirred the drink from day one and the ability to set the terms of the contest is usually the hallmark of a winning campaign. That’s what he’s done so far, and that’s what he’ll try to do in the fall. Clinton can’t let him succeed, and instead must put him on defense with nonstop attacks on his character and lack of government experience. She’s already doing that, but is paying a price with his fierce counter-punching. Her big advantage is the Electoral College, and she will try to shut him down by relentlessly playing the women’s and racial cards. And it’s certain Trump will hand her gaffe gifts and display an embarrassing lack of detailed knowledge. We know all that already, yet still they are tied in the states that matter most. She may win and he may lose, but neither The New York Times nor Mitt Romney will make a whit of difference. Blas, Cuo in summer slimeshare The continuing blizzard of subpoenas demonstrates that New York’s twin corruption scandals are no mere spring fling. Investigations are expanding in the offices of both Mayor de Blasio and Gov. Cuomo and could make for a very hot summer. Coming after numerous lawmakers were convicted in separate cases, the probes paint the era as one of the most corrupt in history. How’s this for a slogan: More crooked than Tammany! Things are so bad that Mayor de Blasio is using Al Sharpton as a character witness. The mayor made a visit to Sharpton’s headquarters and again painted himself a do-gooder caught up in a witch hunt. “The voices of the status quo find many, many ways to undermine progress,” he claimed. Sharpton echoed the “woe is us” tone, calling de Blasio a man of “integrity.” He should have found a word with less baggage. Recall that the mayor had called Sheldon Silver a “man of integrity” when Silver was charged in the federal case that saw the former Assembly speaker sentenced to 12 years in prison and hit with nearly $7 million in fines and restitution. And this Thursday, another alleged man of integrity, former GOP state senate leader Dean Skelos, gets sentenced for his thievery. Silver and Skelos are Cuomo’s former amigos from three-men-in-a-room infamy, and now the governor himself could be under the feds’ microscope again. Prosecutors want records showing whether six current and former members of his inner circle did anything to “benefit” 20 different companies that got state business. Cuomo and de Blasio are sworn enemies, and each is no doubt happy to see the other in a jam. For now, both would be wise to hold the laughter. a Khan-do mayor Sadiq Khan, London’s first Muslim mayor, wrote an op-ed promising that: “As mayor, I will be the British Muslim who finally roots out extremism and radicalisation from British society. I will support mainstream Muslims to challenge extremists and work with the internet providers to ban extremist websites.” Wait, if he’s saying there is an actual link between Islam and Islamic terrorists, he must be wrong. President Obama says there is no connection, and He always knows best. Trans-fer fight to lockers A reader offers a suggestion on the transgender tempest in a piss pot. “Bathrooms are very private places,” he writes. “Locker rooms and shower rooms are not. How many women would be happy to share a locker room or shower with a transgender woman who has male sexual organs? “My guess is that the polling numbers would be dramatically different if pollsters asked about locker rooms instead of bathrooms.” 
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#1. To: cranky (#0)
I missed the "unraveling" in the text of the article. Yes, and much as Barack Obama was in 2008, Trump is a fraud. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. Obama has not been a fraud. He campaigned on a set of principles, and by and large he did what he was expected to do.
Unbelievable!! The guy is more despicable liar than the Clintons and a bigger crook than Nixon. For God's sake, man, get a sense of reality. Just look at all the outright lying, records burying, cover-up actions, and total lack of transparency from him and his minions. No person in their right mind would believe anything this asshole says. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Well, here are the things I have heard him say over the years: (1) He would implement universal health care. He did. (2) He would have a different relationship with the Muslim world. He did. (3) He would advance gay rights. He has. (4) He would raise the taxes on the rich. He did. (5) He would impose as much restriction on guns as he could. He has. Obama never said what means that he would use to do it. He never ruled out really nasty, even illegal tactics. No, he said what he was going to do, said what he was running on and what he was elected to do, and he DID IT. He said he would close GTMO, and hasn't quite done that, but he has let a lot of terrorists go. Obama has not been a fraud. He ran on a list of things, and he executed most of the things on that list. Sure, he used vicious, even illegal tactics to achieve his goals, and sure, some of those goals themselves are questionable as to their value, but that is not the issue. What I said was that Obama was not a fraud. He promised the people who voted for him (and warned everybody else) that he was going to do certain things. And he did nearly all of them. That's not being a fraud - that's being straightforward. Obama has been a very EFFECTIVE president, at advancing HIS agenda. Just because YOU despise him and his agenda doesn't mean that he was a fraud. It means that you don't like his objectives, and you hate the fact he was effective at ramming them through, by hook or by crook. Contrast that with the Republicans, who have run on a number of things election after election, but who never actually DO them once in power. Obama DID what he said he was going to do. In that respect, he was far more honest than his Republican rivals, who promised the moon but who ended up just rolling over and giving Obama what he wanted. Do not confuse tactics with objectives.
(1) He would implement universal health care. He did For starters he didn't implement that at all but only a first step towards a single payer system. ObamaCare still leaves tens of millions without healthcare coverage. As for the rest of your claims of what he said, they are pure BS. For example, he ran saying that he opposed gay marriage - FLASH he didn't keep that vow. Yes, he changed relationships with the Muslim world by alienating the Saudis et.al in favor of Iran - wow, a nuclear Iran, what a deal, Iran will undoubtedly get nukes and soon. As for raise taxes on the rich, he also raised taxes on everybody else as well. For example, the upper income threshold for 15% tax bracket in 2007 for married joint return fliers was $63,700 in 2015 it was $72,500, a 13.8% increase. The upper income threshold for the same group for a 33% tax bracket in 2007 was $349,700 vs. $398,350 in 2015, a 14.1% increase just about the same for the middle class taxpayer. But here is the kicker if you earned less than $15,650 in 2007 YOU PAID ZERO Federal income tax but by 2015 those earning $1-$18,450 YOU PAID 10% to Uncle Sam. GET IT - that is a infinite increase on income of $15,650 or less under Obama. Did he tell you hat as well? You are so wrong that one wonders if you are just deliberately misinformed or a DRat shill. In any event you are plainly full of sh*t. "Obama never said what means that he would use to do it. He never ruled out really nasty, even illegal tactics. No, he said what he was going to do, said what he was running on and what he was elected to do, and he DID IT." He also ran on being the most transparent, open and honest administration ever. I guess you believe that he lived up to that claim as well? That is consistent with you DRats who always believe that the ends justify the means. "Do not confuse tactics with objectives." Don't confuse lying, dishonesty, cheating, illegal activities with anything remotely resembling someone that keeps his word or acts in an enviable, much less honorable or justified, manner. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
The Obama presidency has been brilliant. It may not be the direction some people want to go, but it's the direction he wanted to take the country. He wanted to deliver the country to the radical left and the counterculture, and he has been extremely successful at doing it. He has played the moronic population of this country for the suckers they are.
Yes he did.
I get it. You hate Obama. You hate Trump. You're unhappy with everybody and everything. And if somebody disagrees with you, you level years of compressed vitriol at him, over nonsense that occurs in a city 500 miles away, over which neither you nor he has any control. So, now that you've vented, have a nice night. I stopped reading at "As for the rest of your claims...they are pure BS". Ok, got that too. You disagree, therefore, whatever I say is bullshit. You are entitled to your opinion. You've expressed it. Whatever you said after that point will be read by others. I stop now at the first insult and don't bother reading on. Not interested in being insulted. If you want to be heard, them you have to talk to people better. If you want ME to read what you say, stop insulting me. Since I stop reading at the first insult, everything anybody writes after that was just a waste of time. The target never saw it, and on this thinly-trafficked site, probably nobody else ever read it either.
I am glad that you realize this. Keep coming to the light. "I stop now at the first insult and don't bother reading on. Not interested in being insulted. Then stop posted BS comments when you know, or certainly should know, that they are BS. But you clearly identified yourself as one to who telling the truth doesn't, that honesty, integrity and even honor don't matter only winning does by any means necessary. You don't need me to embarrass or insult you. You don't need anyone to do that. You do the best job of doing that yourself. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I found it. "Trump and Hillary Clinton are tied in each of the three key swing states of Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida" pretty much it. There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't
Michael Goodwin makes several good point,the first one being a point I and several other people already made,and that is this has to be the first election season in history where the Republican Party favorites were defeated in the primary by a man that isn't even a Republican,and the biggest and only threat to the Dim favorite STILL isn't even a registered Dim. Looks like the sheeple in both groups are starting to realize they have been used,doesn't it? The continuing blizzard of subpoenas demonstrates that New York’s twin corruption scandals are no mere spring fling. Investigations are expanding in the offices of both Mayor de Blasio and Gov. Cuomo and could make for a very hot summer. Coming after numerous lawmakers were convicted in separate cases, the probes paint the era as one of the most corrupt in history. How’s this for a slogan: More crooked than Tammany! Things are so bad that Mayor de Blasio is using Al Sharpton as a character witness. OUCH! I only had a vague sort of idea there were some corruption probes going on in NY politics. Never paid much attention because it seems like there is always some sort of corruption probe going on in NY politics,but it does cause one more concern not addressed in this article. If the upper brass in NY state politics are being investigated for corruption,how much of that is going to spill over into the campaigns of Clinton and Trump? You can't mention upper tier NY state politics without mentioning their involvement with the key players. Trump is a life-long NYC political insider,and Clinton's whole political career is involved in corruption right up to her beak. Remember,she had never lived in NY in her life until leaving the WH and buying a house to run for a "conveniently open" SAFE Dim Senate seat. Try telling me no arms were twisted and no payoffs or blackmail moves were at work there. There is a slim possibility that both branches of the ruling party may go into revolt and refuse to back either of their nominees as the Senators,Congresscritters,and the other party regulars start fearing losing their own offices from public disgust and have to start taking "moral stands" to cover their own asses. A reader offers a suggestion on the transgender tempest in a piss pot. “Bathrooms are very private places,” he writes. “Locker rooms and shower rooms are not. How many women would be happy to share a locker room or shower with a transgender woman who has male sexual organs? “My guess is that the polling numbers would be dramatically different if pollsters asked about locker rooms instead of bathrooms.” DAYUM! And the clouds part and the sun shines through! This truth is so blindingly obvious,why didn't any of us think of it before? And you can bet your bippy that is the next target on the tranny list. Maybe it's me,but I am predicting a drastic drop in their support from the Whymen? groups that have such loud and shrill voices right now. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
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BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Of course he is. His whole freaking life is a fraud,and so was his campaign. The fact that he under-performed and screwed up everything he touched changes nothing. Give him a year into the next,assuming there is a next,Republican presidency,and he will be right back to slamming America and screaming about racism. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
You have to realize that Vicomte13 is a Dim and a Papist. Once you understand that,it all makes sense. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
You do have a point there,but Bathhouse Barry was a fraud from the word go because he claimed to love America once he won the primary,and he took a oath to serve America. The truth is he hates and has always hated America,and he only served himself by promoting everything he could promote that would harm America. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
The fbi files craig livingstone snagged way back when sure did pay off big time for Bubba and Hildebeest. There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't
And they STILL have them. The Feebs politely asked Bubbette! to give them back when she was leaving the White House,and she said "No",and just walked away from them,sill in possession of OVER 1,000 "raw" FBI background investigations on various political figures. She got away with it when Bubba was prez even thought it was illegal for her to even see them,never mind possess them,so I guess that established a precedent for her to keep them when she left. Nobody in the FEEBS had the stones to arrest her for theft of confidential FEEB files because none of the FEEB brass wanted to lose their jobs. In the end,we are going to lose America because too many appointed and elected government employees were afraid of losing their jobs. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
I am not a Democrat. Never have been. I'm a Registered Republican.
A definition without meaning. So is Poppy and Boy Jorge,McLunatic,etc,etc,etc. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Definitions don't mean anything. Only sneakypete's precious snowflake feelings have any meaning.
A definition with decisive meaning in response to somebody who, because he doesn't like your viewpoint, publicly insists you're a "Democrat".
A definition with decisive meaning in response to somebody who, because he doesn't like your viewpoint, publicly insists you're a "Democrat". Did you,or did you not,claim right here on LF that the only ones you will consider voting for are Trump or Hillary? BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
I would like to see where you think Obama ran on these issues. Yeah, he did run on appeasing the muslim head choppers and he has. I'll give him that. I never heard anything from him on that awful health care bill that was passed. He had nothing to do with the short lived democratic Congress that passed it. He just signed it. He was opposed to faggot marriage until it became fashionable halfway through his second term. Taxes haven't changed that much. He mostly kept the Bush tax cuts in place for a while. When they ended, taxes were raised on the middle class, not the rich. GITMO? He never did anything until his second term because he was advised it wasn't a good idea. So Obama has shown he is just a teleprompter reading ghetto pimp. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
That's "unraveling" only if she used to have a lead, which the article doesn't say. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. I claimed that if the Republicans stole the election from Trump - which at the time they were in the process of doing - that I would vote for Hillary and a straight Democrat ticket for the purposes of revenge. That is what I said, that is what I meant, and that is why I said it. I have been for Trump since last year, told everybody at Thanksgiving that he would be the next President, and told them why. I've never been for anybody BUT Trump in this election, and the bulk of the voting public has agreed with me. I made it very clear if some narrow clique of Republican insiders worked legerdemain to deny the winner his victory, that I would go over full throttle in this election to the enemy, so that the enemy could politically exterminate them. But none of that happened. Trump cruised on to victory and will certainly be the nominee. And then he'll be President. And if there is justice in the world, Hillary will be indicted and Obama will have to save her with a pardon. That's what I said. That's what I meant. It's a waste of your time to turn it into anything else.
LOL You must one majorly conflicted puppy as you have said many, many times that you hate the Republicans. This explains a lot about your posts. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I do hate the Republicans. I hate what they have become. I grew up in Detroit, saw first hand what racism, and sloth AND "free" trade AND executive overreach will do. Went into the Navy at 18. I did not agree at all with Reagan's economics, and still don't, but Reagan WAS standing tall and facing down the Soviet Union and the Communists everywhere, while the Democrats were caving and capitulating. National Security was my Alpha. And has remained so. I didn't agree with Reagan's economics, but I gave him a chance. I did well under him until 1987, then got hit in the crash. I was somewhat, not wholly, persuaded that perhaps Reagan had been right about tax cuts after all, even if it meant a growing debt. So I voted for Bush 41, believing him when I read his lips and he promised me no new taxes. He lied. And I trusted him as commander-in-chief when he sent us into Kuwait. But then he stopped us even as we were closing the trap on Saddam's Army. We were halted and we let them get away. We let them get away and soon they were back shooting at our planes. Then he sent us into Somalia. I flew the Marines into Mogadishu airport to effect the takeover. So I went in harms way again, to serve the vanity of a defeated President, in an operation that had no particular plan for victory. A fiasco. So, Bush lied to me, and I went to nasty places all over that side of the world pursuing vague, vain, unspecified goals. I was not impressed and so I voted for Perot. Then came Clinton. I found Clinton to be quite corrupt, and was a more enthusiastic supporter of Bob Dole's candidacy than the candidate himself. But of course Dole lost. I wanted John McCain in 2000, but W was the candidate, so I voted for him, without enthusiasm. Of course he was better than Gore. Then came 9/11. I worked at Ground Zero and was there that day. I thought Bush's initial response was really great. But then he lost his way like his father did before him. He listened to poor advice and did not ask for a declaration of war. He did not commit the country to a full-on war to wipe out the enemy. I was hopeful that a police action could somehow work this time, but I had a sickening dread from the week after the attack onward that we were in the process of blowing it. America was primed for war. 9/11 was Pearl Harbor. FDR took us to war, and we won and changed the world. But W told us to go shopping and settled on sending inadequate forces without a game plan. So we defeated a third rate army, and then were caught up in a much more dangerous regional civil war, which our leaders did not anticipate (but which many of us did). The Republicans simply could not pull their minds out of their economic and social theories sufficiently to actually fight and win a war. At a time when the budget deficit was exploding from war costs, the Republicans were holding the line on estate taxes and other tax loopholes for the very wealthy. So once again a Republican Administration ended with the economy in shambles, and with an unneccessary military mess brought on by a "strategy" - if it can be called that - that was less brain than ear wax. There the economy is in meltdown, and W's would-be Republican successor, McCain, "suspends his campaign" to go out and tell the nation that "the economy is sound" even as it was tanking and going to pieces to a degree rivaling 1929. AND singing "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" for good measure (the existing quagmire having taught the GOP leader nothing). McCain lost to Obama. I was not thrilled with getting a left wing Democrat. But then I watched the right wing chat boards, the grass roots Republicans, go non-linear over the man's race. Really, Republicans? THAT's what you're going to key on? I saw no reflection, no self-examination, no sense at all that the mess we were in had been made over the long haul. Nope, it was all because Obama was some sort of black radical weatherman. I could not tell if Republicans were patently dishonest or bone stupid. And on it went. Then we had Romney. The same tired economic ideas that had blown up at the end of THREE Republican Presidencies, all on offer again. Nothing learned. Romney's contempt for half the population was openly expressed. I detested him. But I gritted my teeth and voted for him and said "Never again!" And that was that. I didn't go to the trouble of DE-registering as a Republican. I simply identified as an independent. But my party registration remained Republican. When they called for money, I told them to go to Hell and meant it. Then along came Trump. Now, Trump GETS the very things that the Republicans have gotten wrong all along. He's a nationalist, his economics skew to the middle not the rich, and he understands the need for national security. Therefore, OF COURSE the Republicans all came out of their chairs to attack him. But this time, it turns out that there are a lot of Republican rank-and-file who have common sense. Trump condemns the military incompetence and lack of strategy of the Bush administration and its wars of folly. And he is absolutely right. The Establishment howls - because they ARE the idiots who foisted that policy. Etc. Right down the line. Trump is my kind of Republican. I'm pleased I kept the registration alive, so that I could vote for him in the Connecticut primary. Conflicted? No. I hate the Republican Party that was, and as it is. I like what it is becoming under Trump (although I think the racism needs to have a stock stuffed in it). Democrats are babykillers. I don't vote for them. But had the GOP Establishment stolen the election from Trump, all of the experience of my life is that Republicans (Reagan and two Bushes) leave the economy in a mess, while Democrats (Clinton and Obama) leave it better than they found it. So a vote for Hillary and the Democrats would not, for me, be a vote for economic disaster. I think the Democrats have a proven track record of being superior on economic matters than Republicans. But that will change with Trump. Trump is a smart businessman. He'll get it done right.
You said you would vote for a baby killer over a non baby killer.
There are more rich DRats in the halls of power in DC than REPS. None of these, D or R, will ever vote in anything that will change the rules that would negatively affect them or their rich crony donors. No POTUS ever did that, especially Obama because he wanted to be rich when he left the WH and stay that way afterward (and he did achieve that goal even though he didn't tell you about it). "But that will change with Trump. Trump is a smart businessman. He'll get it done right." You are delusional. Trump is a major player in the crony capitalism club. He will not change a damn thing in that regard. He is already back peddling on taxes, the wall, immigration, etc., by the time November comes around you won't recognize him as the guy that campaigned in April. You just don't get the fact that he is a con man, a hustler whose word means nothing, not even when it is in writing, unless he continues to profit from it. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Yes I did. Because if they stole the election from Trump, it was vital that they be destroyed. The babies are going to die anyway, no matter who is elected, but by stealing the election from Trump, the Republicans would WIN - and that was unacceptable. Steal the election like that, and the Republican Party needed to be turned into Carthage - utterly overthrown, fields sown with salt, never, ever to rise again. Fortunately, that didn't happen.
I do not believe that he is. I am going to give him a chance to prove to me that he is what he says he is. I believe he will. I also believe that even if he does do what he says, you will never accept that he has. I think you have Trump Derangement Syndrome and will be unappeasable no matter what the man does.
There is no reason not to accept and acknowledge clear results. It is you that never will admit that he didn't deliver on what you believe he promised you. For example, there will be no wall that Mexico won't pay for, there will be no temporary or otherwise halt on Muslim entries into the U.S., there will be no renegotiation of trade deals (especially with China), there will be no decisive destruction of ISIS anytime some, there will be no repatriation of American jobs that where moved overseas, etc., etc., etc. There only be more "suggestions" from Trump as his promised positions "evolve" or be negotiated to something totally unrecognizable from what he promised just a few weeks ago, much let what you believed he promised you last October. Believe him at your own risk. Benchmark today and the promises that you believe that Trump made to you as of just a couple of weeks ago (he already set the basis for letting himself off the hook on the Muslim restriction, tax cuts, immigration promises of his campaign just a week or so ago when there were still others in the race since then). The above are my benchmarks that gives you plenty of ammunition to come back at me a 18 months or so and tell me "I told you so" as I clearly laid out my position on the promises Trump will not fulfill and which demonstrated performance could clearly prove me wrong. I am not worried about that day. If you have the courage post your benchmark of promises that Trump will keep. Remember trying is not what he promise, he promised definitive results. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I only really care about one single plank of Trump's platform, and I'm only going to judge him on this one, because it's the Alpha issue, affecting everything else: a rework and dramatic improvement of our relationship with Russia. Trump will be able to negotiate a real settlement between the two nations, and Trump will be able to hold the US side to keep the deal. If we keep the deal with Russia, Russia will keep the deal with us. I'm holding Trump to the same standard I held Reagan. I thought that Reagan's economic and trade policies were wrongheaded, but I supported Reagan anyway because he handled the USSR properly, and that made the world a safer place. Those are the definitive results I am looking for, and the yardstick by which I mill judge Trump. All of the bluster of the campaign and the ancillaries are just so much noise to me. You may care about them. I really don't.
I guess all the things Trump promised re: the economy, getting jobs back into the U.S., improved trade deals, etc., etc., etc. mean nothing to you. It's Russia, stupid? Wow, you are all over the place. No wonder you connect with Dollar Donald. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I'm really not over the place. I've been largely in the same place since 1981. I live in a world full of people who are flighty, and people who focus on other things. The flighty ones pay attention to everything. To then everything is important. The people who are focused on other things think those things are the most important. Unlike the flighty, I focus on core issues that drive everything. And unlike the fixed, my eyes are fixed on different things. You want to judge? Judge away. I don't care.
Most people CAN intellectually walk and chew gum at the same time. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
And yet among all of the Republican candidates, Trump alone understands the fundamental necessity to us and our national interest of forging good, sustained relations with Russia.
He [Trump] is a phenomenon, much as Barack Obama was in 2008
#2. To: ConservingFreedom (#1)
Barack Obama was in 2008, Trump is a fraud.
#3. To: Vicomte13, ConservingFreedom (#2)
Obama has not been a fraud. He campaigned on a set of principles, and by and large he did what he was expected to do.
#4. To: SOSO (#3)
No person in their right mind would believe anything this asshole says.
#5. To: Vicomte13 (#4)
Well, here are the things I have heard him say over the years:
#6. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
Obama has not been a fraud.
#7. To: rlk (#6)
#8. To: SOSO (#5)
#9. To: Vicomte13 (#8)
....therefore, whatever I say is bullshit.
#10. To: ConservingFreedom (#1)
I missed the "unraveling" in the text of the article.
#11. To: cranky (#0)
#12. To: All, *The Two Parties ARE the Same*, *Crime and Corruption*, *Politics and Politicians*, *2016 The Likely Suspects* (#11)
#13. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
Obama has not been a fraud.
#14. To: SOSO (#3)
Unbelievable!! The guy is more despicable liar than the Clintons and a bigger crook than Nixon. For God's sake, man, get a sense of reality. Just look at all the outright lying, records burying, cover-up actions, and total lack of transparency from him and his minions. No person in their right mind would believe anything this asshole says.
#15. To: Vicomte13 (#4)
Contrast that with the Republicans, who have run on a number of things election after election, but who never actually DO them once in power. Obama DID what he said he was going to do.
#16. To: sneakypete (#11)
Try telling me no arms were twisted and no payoffs or blackmail moves were at work there.
#17. To: cranky (#16)
The fbi files craig livingstone snagged way back when sure did pay off big time for Bubba and Hildebeest.
#18. To: sneakypete (#14)
You have to realize that Vicomte13 is a Dim and a Papist.
#19. To: Vicomte13 (#18)
I'm a Registered Republican.
#20. To: sneakypete, Vicomte13 (#19)
A definition without meaning.
#21. To: sneakypete (#19)
A definition without meaning.
#22. To: Vicomte13 (#21)
A definition without meaning.
#23. To: Vicomte13 (#4)
(1) He would implement universal health care. He did. (2) He would have a different relationship with the Muslim world. He did. (3) He would advance gay rights. He has. (4) He would raise the taxes on the rich. He did. (5) He would impose as much restriction on guns as he could. He has.
#24. To: cranky (#10)
"Trump and Hillary Clinton are tied in each of the three key swing states of Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida"
#25. To: sneakypete (#22)
Did you,or did you not,claim right here on LF that the only ones you will consider voting for are Trump or Hillary?
#26. To: Vicomte13, sneakypete, Roscoe (#18)
I am not a Democrat. Never have been. I'm a Registered Republican.
#27. To: SOSO (#26)
LOL You must one majorly conflicted puppy as you have said many, many times that you hate the Republicans. This explains a lot about your posts.
#28. To: Vicomte13 (#27)
Democrats are babykillers. I don't vote for them.
#29. To: Vicomte13 (#27)
The Republicans simply could not pull their minds out of their economic and social theories sufficiently to actually fight and win a war. At a time when the budget deficit was exploding from war costs, the Republicans were holding the line on estate taxes and other tax loopholes for the very wealthy.
#30. To: A K A Stone (#28)
You said you would vote for a baby killer over a non baby killer.
#31. To: SOSO (#29)
You just don't get the fact that he is a con man, a hustler whose word means nothing, not even when it is in writing, unless he continues to profit from it.
#32. To: Vicomte13 (#31)
I believe he will. I also believe that even if he does do what he says, you will never accept that he has.
#33. To: SOSO (#32)
#34. To: Vicomte13 (#33)
All of the bluster of the campaign and the ancillaries are just so much noise to me. You may care about them. I really don't.
#35. To: SOSO (#34)
It's Russia, stupid? Wow, you are all over the place.
#36. To: Vicomte13 (#35)
Unlike the flighty, I focus on core issues that drive everything.
#37. To: SOSO (#36)
Most people CAN intellectually walk and chew gum at the same time.
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