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Title: Fatal accidents involving stoned drivers soared in Washington since pot was legalized
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CNN
URL Source: http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/10/news/stoned-driving-fatal-accidents/
Published: May 10, 2016
Author: Chris Isidore
Post Date: 2016-05-10 21:48:36 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 11305
Comments: 51
Stoned driving can be as serious a problem as drunk driving. Fatal accidents involving stoned drivers have soared in the state of Washington since marijuana was legalized there, according to a study from the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety. But it's difficult to determine whether a high-on-pot driver is too impaired to drive, according to a separate study from the same group. Fatal crashes involving drivers who recently used marijuana more than doubled in 2014. Pot was involved in 17% of fatal crashes in Washington in 2014, up from 8% in 2013 -- the year before recreational marijuana was allowed there. "The significant increase in fatal crashes involving marijuana is alarming," said Peter Kissinger, CEO of the foundation, which funds scientifically rigorous studies for the drivers organization. "Washington serves as an eye-opening case study for what other states may experience with road safety after legalizing the drug." But coming up with a test to get impaired drivers off the road will be far more difficult than the blood alcohol tests used to test for drunk drivers, according to the group. While tests show the ability to drive gets worse as blood alcohol rises, laboratory studies show the same is not necessarily true with increased levels of THC, the main chemical component in marijuana, in the blood. One driver with high levels of THC might not be impaired, while another driver with very low levels can be impaired. "There is understandably a strong desire by both lawmakers and the public to create legal limits for marijuana impairment, in the same manner as we do with alcohol," said Marshall Doney, AAA's CEO. "In the case of marijuana, this approach is flawed and not supported by scientific research. It's simply not possible today to determine whether a driver is impaired based solely on the amount of the drug in their body." The study was criticized by the National Cannabis Industry Association, which pointed to a different study, by the Transportation Department, which found that drivers who drivers who are drunk have a much greater increase in the risk of being in an accident than drivers who used marijuana. "All this report really shows is that more people in Washington State are likely consuming cannabis, and thus might have some THC in their systems at the time of an accident. But since having THC in your system tells us nothing about your potential impairment, it would be like a report showing how many people involved in accidents had drunk a beer in the last week," said Taylor West, deputy director of the group. AAA said the key result of the studies are that it's important that drivers be aware that marijuana can greatly impair driving ability. "Whether the use of marijuana is legal or not, all motorists should avoid driving while impaired," said the group. "Just because a drug is legal does not mean it is safe to use while operating a motor vehicle. Drivers who get behind the wheel while impaired put themselves and others on the road at risk." Another problem with testing for THC is that it requires a blood test, which can take up to two hours to be administered. That's much longer than the roadside breath tests used to test blood alcohol levels. And THC levels can decline significantly in those two hours, making results suspect.
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#13. To: Gatlin (#0)
I'd say if they crashed that's a pretty good indicator.
Or if a higher percentage of them had a corn syrup drink before accident, it is a good indicator too. A before B might mean A caused B, or C caused both A and B, or A is as frequent among B and non B, etc ... Causal Fallacies It is common for arguments to conclude that one thing causes another. But the relation between cause and effect is a complex one. It is easy to make a mistake. In general, we say that a cause C is the cause of an effect E if and only if: We say "generally" because there are always exceptions. For example, we say that striking the match causes the match to light, because: Many writers also require that a causal statement be supported with a natural law. For example, the statement that "striking the match causes it to light" is supported by the principle that "friction produces heat, and heat produces fire". The following are causal fallacies:
Sure. And those hoofbeats you hear could be zebras. And let's set asid asid asid aside your "causal" argument. The article clearly stated, "Pot was involved in 17% of fatal crashes in Washington in 2014". Where did you read, "Pot caused 17% of fatal crashes in Washington in 2014"?
I caught a strong whiff of it here: "Washington serves as an eye-opening case study for what other states may experience with road safety after legalizing the drug."
Correct. They may experience pot being involved in a higher percentage of fatal crashes.
A case study wasn't needed to know that they MAY. As I said, a strong whiff of correlation-is-causation.
Smells like denial to me.
#39. To: misterwhite (#37)
Who is supposedly denying what?
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest"But it's difficult to determine whether a high-on-pot driver is too impaired to drive"
#20. To: misterwhite (#13)
I'd say if they crashed that's a pretty good indicator.
#26. To: A Pole (#20)
"A before B might mean A caused B, or C caused both A and B, or A is as frequent among B and non B, etc ..."
#30. To: misterwhite, A Pole (#26)
Where did you read, "Pot caused 17% of fatal crashes in Washington in 2014"?
#32. To: ConservingFreedom (#30)
"Washington serves as an eye-opening case study for what other states may experience with road safety after legalizing the drug."
#34. To: misterwhite (#32)
They may experience pot being involved in a higher percentage of fatal crashes.
#37. To: ConservingFreedom (#34)
"As I said, a strong whiff of correlation-is-causation."
Replies to Comment # 37. Smells like denial to me.
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