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Title: Trump: ‘Looking At’ Minimum Wage, ‘I’m Very Different From Most Republicans’
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Published: May 4, 2016
Author: IAN HANCHETT
Post Date: 2016-05-07 15:20:00 by ConservingFreedom
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Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said that you can’t live on the current federal minimum wage of $7.25-an-hour and that he was “looking at that, because I’m very different from most Republicans. I mean, you have to have something that you can live on” during an interview broadcast on Wednesday’s “Situation Room” on CNN. Trump was asked, “Bernie Sanders says he wants $15-an-hour minimum wage, and he has really gone after you lately for saying you’re happy with $7.25, the current federal minimum wage. You can’t live on $7.25-an-hour.” He responded, “No, and I’m actually looking at that, because I’m very different from most Republicans. I mean, you have to have something that you can live on, but what I’m really looking to do, is get people great jobs so they make much more money than that, so they make much money — more money than the $15. Now, if you start playing around too much with the lower level, the lower level number, you’re not going to be competitive.” When asked what he would recommend as a federal minimum wage, Trump stated, “I’m looking at it.” He was then asked if he was open to raising the wage, he said, “I’m open to doing something with it, because I don’t like that. But what I really do like bringing our jobs back, so they’re making much more than the $15.”
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So if he understands that the answer is to "get people great jobs so they make much more money than that" and that a more than token raise in the minimum wage means "you’re not going to be competitive" ... then what the Hell is he "looking at"? Is the inability to put 2 and 2 together how he's "very different from most Republicans"?
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. You absolutely can live on $7.25 per hour. IF you are a high school student living with Mom & Dad who pay for most of your meals. Those type people are the ones who would be happy at 7.25 per hour and who won't have any job at $11 or $14 per hour. Ditto for anyone who is living with a spouse or relative and doesn't have to pay rent or mortgage.
If that hourly wage really concerned the government, they wouldn't deduct FICA taxes. Or they would issue "Sales Tax Exempt" cards. But they're not going to do without. They'd rather put the burden on private businesses. The job should pay what the job is worth. If the government wants you to make more, let them issue you a check.
Who determines that? If the employer can't get enough help at $7.25 per hour then he needs to pay more to get good help. Simple
Or give businesses a 100% tax credit on the increased wages paid. And a pro rata labor burden credit.
I don't care if they raise the minimum wage. It is not right to offer slave like wages. You obviously have globalist and conservative confused. You're not conservative you're a liberal like Bill piece of shit Kristol.
Raising the minimum wage is a liberal unionist position ;not a conservative one . The only reason liberals and unions support it is because the new minimum wage becomes the base line for new negotiations. They don't care about the poor and how that impacts their job prospects. They offer the poor government handouts as an alternative ,creating a permanent class dependent on the government . There is where you find slavery ,not in people getting less money for starter jobs that are not intended to be permanent careers . Oh, miserable mortals! Oh wretched earth! Oh, dreadful assembly of all mankind! Eternal sermon of useless sufferings! Deluded philosophers who cry, “All is well,” Hasten, contemplate these frightful ruins, (Voltaire)
So you would be ok if someone was paying 3 dollars an hour. It is an American position. You have globalist confused with conservative. You're a globalist not a conservative. Except on social issues. I'll give you that. There needs to be a minimum wage in todays world because if not greedy bastard corporations will make slaves of us all if they can. Greed is not a conservative value it is a globalist value.
I understand the theories on the minimum wage being raised. I used to buy into them. But in the real world people are taking jobs at the minimum wage and greedy people know because the economy is bad they can keep them there and make large profits for themselves and basically enslave people without as many skills. Maybe if you guys didn't support letting slave labor goods come into the country you would have a point. But as it is now you are wrong im in view.
The market determines the price of the final product. That price includes the cost of the materials, overheard, profit, and labor. Once the first three are determined, labor costs are set. "If the employer can't get enough help at $7.25 per hour then he needs to pay more to get good help. Simple" Or he moves his manufacturing to Mexico. Even simpler.
Yeah, but unfunded mandates are much more fun. You get to play Santa Clause while others pay for the presents.
So where would you put the burden of taxes? On wealth or imports?
Sure. Some states require food stamp recipients to work. Your $3 an hour is $24 per day, $480 per month. Food stamps average $250 per month. They're better off taking your job.
If you're homeless & camping out under a highway overpass...
That's what Karl Marx and 0bama said; they're wrong as are you. In no market do buyers unilaterally set the price. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. Why not both?
Well, for 100 years we funded the federal government on tariffs alone. That would have the added benefit of encouraging local manufacturing. So I'd go with that. BUT, before doing that, I'd slash the federal government to the bone. Privatize social security and Medicare, turn Medicaid, welfare, and food stamps over to the states, and get rid of 90% of federal agencies.
That's what Karl Marx and 0bama said; they're wrong as are you. Karl Marx was right about that. When Obama have said that? Are you out of your mind? If course in certain conditions buyers do set the price.
You mean to give Social Security into hands of Wall Street crooks and speculators?
"Social Security yields roughly 3% real returns compared to the average 6.38% real returns S&P 500 investments have yielded between 1984 and 2014." Who's the worse crook?
The current system -- need I remind you -- is going broke. Is that better?
So in your view there is no greed in the world. No greed in corporations. You are supposed to treat people right. There is nothing wrong with a minimum standard for wages. I don't think it should be 15 bucks an hour. But it should be higher then it is by at least a buck or two. Taxes should also be cut on the lowest wages or tax free. Taxes should be collected through tariffs also. That way we don't have to compete with slave labor. You just don't care about your fellow countrymen it seems.
No, buyer and seller each seek the best deal for themselves and arrive at a market price. What's wrong with it is that it leads to job loss, just as mandating a higher-than-market minimum price for, say, eggs would result in fewer eggs being bought. The term "minimum wage" is actually a lie because the true minimum wage is the $0 one gets from an employer when not employed. All much better ideas than the job-destroying lie of a "minimum wage." That's libtard talk: that the only way to care about your fellow countrymen is through government coerciion. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. Nuff said. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. If the government can tell you what to pay your employees, can they also tell you what price to charge for your product? In either case it's socialism. Even you agree with that ... if the minimum wage is $15. The second thing that's wrong with it is that it destroys entry-level jobs. The third thing that's wrong with it is that it forces higher wages to be paid to others. If I worked for a company for three years and am now making $15 an hour, I want a raise if that's being paid to new hires. The fourth thing wrong with that is that the employer may decide to either go out of business ot move his operation to Mexico. Other than that, there's nothing wrong with it.
How about a minimum standard for employees? -- High school diploma Don't you agree that should be the minimum? That it goes without saying?
If we didn't import slave labor products into the country without tariffs. I would agree with you. I used to agree with you. I don't care if they raise the minimum wage a little bit. It will not hurt anyone and will only help some people. I understand your reasoning. It is ok if you have a different view. Your view is thought out and your view. I just don't really care if they raise it a bit. It is not my biggest issue. I just know young people who are struggling to live on that wage. Hard workers. Real hard workers. Making others rich. then they barely scrape by. So in the real world and not the theoretical one I have no problem with it being raised. I'm not going to despise someone with your view. I save that for other issues.
-- High school diploma -- Can read and write and speak and understand English -- Can do basic math -- Shows up for work on time and leaves on time. -- Will put in an honest day's work for a honest day's pay -- Works well with others Don't you agree that should be the minimum? That it goes without saying? Yes except maybe for the high school diploma. Reality is not everyone graduates. That doesn't make them stupid. If someone wants to fire someone they should be to do that for any reason. Any reason. And there should be no recourse for firing someone just because you want to fire them. Maybe you don't like them. Also on basic math. It isn't required for all jobs. But yes you should be able to do basic math.
My first real job was as a busboy in a restaurant after school. Hard work. You never sit down. Always on the run. I made $1 an hour. No tips. The only benefit they provided was continued employment if I did my job. That job went on my resume. I then got a job stocking shelves in a supermarket. At night. During the day, I worked in a steel mill as a grinder. That went on my resume. I went to college on a work-study program, paying my way by alternating semesters working a job and going to school. That went on my resume. Graduated with an Electrical Engineering degree and was hired for $10,500 per year. And now some high school dropout with no work ethic speaking Ebonics and can't add 2 plus 2 expects to make $30,000 a year because otherwise he'd be struggling? Two words: F**k that.
Then they'd have to have a damn good reason why they didn't finish their taxpayer-funded free education. And what they're currently doing to get their GED. The kind of person who simply drops out is the kind of employee who will file harassment or discrimination lawsuits or "hurt their back" on the job and suck up disability and unemployment benefits.
If you're homeless & camping out under a highway overpass... True, someone homeless and living under a highway overpass would likely save a lot of money working at $7.25/hour. At least as long as they didn't have to eat out every day. The same is true for a high school student living with Mom and Dad which are the people any minimum wage should have in mind.
Guys like you. Stock exchange is higher risk.
What about higher standards for the employers? Are they special?
Your faith in Obama is touching.
Your faith in Obama is touching. Obama again? Do you have fixation with Obama?
Whatever floats your boat.
Well, they have the jobs and they have the money. You don't have to work there. I'm saying that if the employees want more money, perhaps they can offer more.
They "have the jobs"? Why do they give them away? I say regulate them. Or let them move to some Third World hellhole, where they will have a partnership with a government. Hyman Roth: What I am saying is, we have now what we have always needed, real partnership with the government.
You must mean wall street is going broke. The reason Social Security is going broke, as you call it, is because the crooks in DC are using Social Security funds for other purposes. If I recall correctly, Bill Clinton placed the Social Security funds in general revenue to make the budget look better. All of government is nothing more than a scam.
Don’t Like Trump’s Minimum Wage Position? Wait 5 Minutes Donald Trump has decided that although he thinks employees should probably make more money, he will leave that one up to individual states. That does mark a reversal on past statements where he said wages were too high and he wouldn’t support a minimum wage increase. According to the Guardian, self-proclaimed multi-billionaire Donald “I’ll just say whatever and hope no one notices” Trump discussed the issue on NBC’s Meet the Press. “I like the idea of ‘let the states decide’. But I think people should get more. I think they’re out there. They’re working. It is a very low number…No, I’d rather have the states go out and do what they have to do….And the states compete with each other, not only other countries, but they compete with each other.” During a debate back in November, when asked about increasing the federal minimum wage to $15, Trump took a considerably harsher tone according to Talking Points Memo. “Taxes too high, wages too high…We’re not going to be able to compete against the world. I hate to say it, but we have to leave it the way it is. People have to go out, they have to work really hard and they have to get into that upper stratum. But we cannot do this if we are going to compete with the rest of the world. We just can’t do it.” His position that minimum wage earners should make more, but it won’t be up to him as President to decide, is a bit of an improvement over past statements, but definitely does mark yet another flip-flop. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much That job went on my resume. I then got a job stocking shelves in a supermarket. At night. During the day, I worked in a steel mill as a grinder. That went on my resume. I went to college on a work-study program, paying my way by alternating semesters working a job and going to school. That went on my resume. Graduated with an Electrical Engineering degree and was hired for $10,500 per year. And now some high school dropout with no work ethic speaking Ebonics and can't add 2 plus 2 expects to make $30,000 a year because otherwise he'd be struggling? Two words: F**k that. Good post. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
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#2. To: ConservingFreedom (#0)
You can’t live on $7.25-an-hour.
#3. To: Pinguinite (#2)
"You can’t live on $7.25-an-hour."
#4. To: misterwhite (#3)
The job should pay what the job is worth
#5. To: misterwhite (#3)
If that hourly wage really concerned the government, they wouldn't deduct FICA taxes. Or they would issue "Sales Tax Exempt" cards.
#6. To: ConservingFreedom (#1)
#7. To: A K A Stone (#6)
I don't care if they raise the minimum wage. It is not right to offer slave like wages.
#8. To: tomder55 (#7)
Raising the minimum wage is a liberal unionist position ;not a conservative one
#9. To: tomder55 (#7)
They don't care about the poor and how that impacts their job prospects. They offer the poor government handouts as an alternative ,creating a permanent class dependent on the government . There is where you find slavery ,not in people getting less money for starter jobs that are not intended to be permanent careers .
#10. To: U don't know me (#4)
"The job should pay what the job is worth"
"Who determines that?"
#11. To: Roscoe (#5)
"Or give businesses a 100% tax credit on the increased wages paid. And a pro rata labor burden credit."
#12. To: misterwhite (#3)
#13. To: A K A Stone (#8)
"So you would be ok if someone was paying 3 dollars an hour."
#14. To: Pinguinite (#2)
You absolutely can live on $7.25 per hour.
#15. To: A K A Stone (#8)
greedy bastard corporations will make slaves of us all if they can.
#16. To: A Pole (#12)
So where would you put the burden of taxes? On wealth or imports?
#17. To: A Pole (#12)
"So where would you put the burden of taxes? On wealth or imports?"
#18. To: ConservingFreedom (#15)
"greedy bastard corporations will make slaves of us all if they can."
In no market do buyers unilaterally set the price.
#19. To: misterwhite (#17)
Privatize social security and Medicare
#20. To: A Pole (#19)
You mean to give Social Security into hands of Wall Street crooks and speculators?
#21. To: A Pole (#19)
"You mean to give Social Security into hands of Wall Street crooks and speculators?"
#22. To: ConservingFreedom (#15)
That's what Karl Marx and 0bama said; they're wrong as are you. In no market do buyers unilaterally set the price.
#23. To: A K A Stone (#22)
"That's what Karl Marx and 0bama said; they're wrong as are you. In no market do buyers unilaterally set the price."
So in your view there is no greed in the world. No greed in corporations.
You are supposed to treat people right. There is nothing wrong with a minimum standard for wages.
Taxes should also be cut on the lowest wages or tax free.
Taxes should be collected through tariffs also. That way we don't have to compete with slave labor.
You just don't care about your fellow countrymen it seems.
#24. To: A Pole (#18)
Karl Marx was right about that.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#22)
"There is nothing wrong with a minimum standard for wages."
#26. To: A K A Stone (#22)
"There is nothing wrong with a minimum standard for wages."
-- Can read and write and speak and understand English
-- Can do basic math
-- Shows up for work on time and leaves on time.
-- Will put in an honest day's work for a honest day's pay
-- Works well with others
#27. To: misterwhite (#25)
#28. To: misterwhite (#26)
How about a minimum standard for employees?
#29. To: A K A Stone (#27)
"I just know young people who are struggling to live on that wage."
#30. To: A K A Stone (#28)
"Reality is not everyone graduates."
#31. To: Willie Green (#14)
#32. To: Roscoe (#20)
"Social Security yields roughly 3% real returns compared to the average 6.38% real returns S&P 500 investments have yielded between 1984 and 2014."Who's the worse crook?
#33. To: misterwhite (#26)
How about a minimum standard for employees?
#34. To: A Pole (#32)
Stock exchange is higher risk.
#35. To: Roscoe (#34)
Stock exchange is higher risk.
#36. To: A Pole (#35)
#37. To: A Pole (#33)
"What about higher standards for the employers? Are they special?"
#38. To: misterwhite (#37)
Well, they have the jobs and they have the money.
#39. To: misterwhite (#21)
The current system -- need I remind you -- is going broke.
#40. To: ConservingFreedom (#0)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#41. To: misterwhite (#29)
My first real job was as a busboy in a restaurant after school. Hard work. You never sit down. Always on the run. I made $1 an hour. No tips. The only benefit they provided was continued employment if I did my job.
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