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Title: Will a Trump presidency really change anything for the better?
Source: Personal Liberty
URL Source: http://personalliberty.com/will-a-t ... hange-anything-for-the-better/
Published: Mar 15, 2016
Author: Brandon Smith
Post Date: 2016-05-06 08:57:21 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 18499
Comments: 107

Trump at campaign rally

I want to start this analysis by stating that I fully understand the whirlwind of public interest in Donald Trump’s campaign. However, for those that don’t get it, let me break it down for you.

A considerable portion of the American population considers themselves “conservative.” More than 38 percent of U.S. citizens, according to Gallup, hold conservative political and social views. Only 24 percent of the public considers themselves “liberal.” Now, I realize that the term “conservative” means different things to different people, so I would apply a simple rule to categorize them — a conservative is easiest to identify by his or her distaste for normally liberal ideological views. Beyond that, different factions of conservatives disagree on a whole host of issues.

The goal of any conservative candidate that hopes to be publicly “popular,” whether he actually intends to follow through with his promises or not, is to appear to be all things to all factions; to avoid alienating one faction to appease another. After he is elected (or, after he is placed in the oval office by the powers that be), he may abandon any care for appeasing any of his constituents. Until then, he plays the game so that Americans can maintain faith in the system for at least one moment every four years.

Trump’s popularity is predicated on the fact that past Republican candidates have done little to make friends with true conservatives and have not sought alliances with the factions of conservatism that have been growing in momentum and power the past two decades. In fact, the Republican candidates presented to the citizenry in recent memory have all had characteristics more akin to liberal Democrats than conservative stalwarts. Mitt Romney, for instance, was essentially a carbon copy of Barack Obama in terms of political policy and voting record, with only slightly greasier complexion and equally mysterious religious background.

Election after election, conservative Americans have been offered one RINO (Republican In Name Only) candidate after another: politicians whose rhetoric sounds principled but whose record is littered with big government policies, constitutional violations, and a disregard for the intentions of the founding fathers. You cannot call yourself a “conservative” in America unless you respect the tenets of limited government, constitutional law, and a regard for the heritage of our founding principles. U.S. conservatives have not had a candidate sharing their views for a long time.

Democrats may finally be experiencing a similar disenchantment with establishment candidates considering the surprising popularity of Bernie Sanders this election. The problem is, democrats are trapped in the big government mindset and are for the most part a lost cause. Their anti-establishment candidate is a self-categorized socialist, after all. The only hope for a constitutional small government candidate and a return our founding principles in politics rests in the hands of Republicans, being that third parties are quashed before they get a chance to put their foot in the door.

So, you have most if not all Democratic candidates working for bigger more powerful government which leads to increased corruption and less liberty. You also have most Republicans working for bigger and more powerful government and less liberty. And you have few, if any, candidates that represent the majority of voters seeking limited constitutional government.

Those of us in the liberty movement call this the “false left/right paradigm. It is the most insidious form of social control present in our nation and it makes a mockery of the election process. That is to say, elections are now nothing more than a way for international financiers and elites to keep the masses in line by allowing them to believe (falsely) that they have a “choice” and thus power to determine the future of our country. In fact, our choice is contrived and we have no political power whatsoever. The rest of America is finally starting to become aware of the false paradigm that liberty proponents have been warning about for generations. Is it any wonder that people are becoming fed up with the system?

The genius of Donald Trump as an election figure is that he has little to no political history. He does not have an extensive legislative or voting record that we can look back on and determine where he stands. His political affiliations have been all over the place with him identifying as a Democrat at one time, Republican at other times, and even independent. Most of us cannot really judge his potential based on this. Hell, I was a registered Democrat early in my life, so how can I hold it against Trump?

Beyond Trump’s rather disturbing past affiliation and friendship with the Clintons, he is otherwise a blank political slate. And as a blank slate, Trump can in fact present himself as all things to all people.

The other ingenious aspect of the Trump campaign is really who he is running against — Hillary Clinton, a liberal candidate even more hated than Barack Obama. A candidate with a potentially serious criminal record and a penchant for an outright communistic world view. Those of us who have been in the writing field for a long time and have dabbled in fiction know that in order to create a fantastic hero, you must first put even more work into creating a fantastic villain. The hero is nothing without the villain.

The outright horror inherent in the prospect of a Hillary Clinton presidency is like adding jet fuel to the Trump campaign.

Donald Trump appears to be the perfect antithesis to Hillary Clinton. He is loud and boisterous and a bit obnoxious. He trash talks and says whatever he wants to the torment of liberals. He stomps on the throats of the political correctness police and doesn’t care if they call him a racist or a sexist or a misogynist. And, Americans love it. They can’t get enough of it.

Conservatives are so tired of cultural Marxism, leftist domination of media, forced immigration policies and the protection of illegal immigration, paying for social entitlement programs, etc., that they are ready to explode. They are, in fact, ready to go to war. I would even dare to say that a Clinton presidency would lead directly to guaranteed outright civil war. This is not an exaggeration.

So, the real question is, is Trump a reflection of the frustration and defiance of the conservative population, or, is he a clever ruse by the establishment to co-opt and placate the conservative population before we rebel?

Again, without much political background to examine, Trump is a mystery. If Trump is a legitimate anti-establishment candidate, then here are some of the actions he would have to pursue in order to prove it:

  1. The complete reversal of every unconstitutional Obama Administration and Bush Administration executive order.
  2. The pursuit of removal of the indefinite detention provisions and secret tribunals contained in the NDAA.
  3. The removal of FISA, and the end of the invasion of privacy and other violations of the 4th Amendment by the NSA against American citizens.
  4. The end of secretive executive powers of assassination, including the assassination of American citizens without trial.
  5. The dismantling of the Department of Homeland Security in light of abuses of constitutional limits.
  6. The complete reversal of Obamacare.
  7. The immediate end to all refugee relocation programs related to the Middle East and Syria.
  8. The true enforcement of illegal immigration laws and border controls.
  9. The encouragement of states to assert their right to protect their borders based on the 10th Amendment.
  10. An immediate call for an independent investigation into the immigration policies of the Obama Administration.
  11. An immediate independent investigation into the Benghazi attacks.
  12. An immediate independent investigation into the ATF’s “Fast and Furious” gun running program.
  13. An immediate independent investigation into the involvement of covert intelligence agencies and the Department of Defense in the funding and training of ISIS.
  14. An immediate call for an independent investigation of corruption within the election process itself, as well as the influence of international banks and corporations in the election process.
  15. The removal of unfair restrictions that prevent third party and independent candidates from participation in public debates.
  16. An immediate call for an investigative audit of the Federal Reserve as well as the pursuit of dismantling the fed and transitioning America back into constitutional sound money creation.
  17. An investigation into U.S. relations with the International Monetary Fund, World Bank, and the Bank of International Settlements with the intention of ending all ties to said organizations if and when criminal conduct is discovered.
  18. An end to the revolving door of banking elites cycling through various cabinet positions within the White House.
  19. An immediate investigation into the influence of international financiers and globalist think tanks like the Council On Foreign Relations and their efforts to destroy the national sovereignty of the U.S.
  20. The end of globalization of U.S. foreign policy and economic policy which has weakened America, and the return to a more independent and self reliant American economic and defense infrastructure.

I’m sure that readers can think of many other potential actions that would help to prove beyond a doubt that Donald Trump is the kind of anti-establishment firebrand he presents himself to be. If Trump does take such measures during his presidency, then he may be a president worth supporting, or even fighting for. If he pursues few or none of these measures, however, we can be relatively certain he is just another establishment puppet playing his part in the false left/right paradigm leading America toward oblivion.

Whatever Trump is, his popularity does indicate a rising tide of discontent within the U.S. The insane circus atmosphere of election 2016 is no coincidence; it is a perfect representation of the overflowing tensions that permeate our culture and are leading to potential earth shattering conflict. Keep in mind that America’s economic situation was already decided back in 2008 and will only become worse as we move into the election season. Whatever tensions we see now will only multiply as financial crisis becomes more apparent to the masses.

The idea that a Trump presidency will change much of anything is a rather farfetched one in my view. Trump’s popularity only suggests that people are seeking alternatives. The damage to America has for the most part already been done, and there will be no avoiding the consequences. That said, how we rebuild can still be determined. No political leader including Trump will ever be able to heal the American system or the American psyche, but the efforts of millions of independent and liberty minded Americans can. We have a long and terrible struggle ahead of us, but to look at it from an “optimistic” perspective, at least Americans are becoming sick of the status quo. That is a start.

 — Brandon Smith(1 image)

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#58. To: paraclete (#54)

most water is used in agriculture and industry and is wasted

Do you realize how ridiculous that statement is? Water used in agriculture and industry is what makes modern life possible.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-05-11   18:26:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: GrandIsland (#34)
(Edited)

Shut your OWS pie hole.

Apparently you think it's a "liberal" trait to point out that Trump is teaming up with a guy who worked for Hillary Clinton donor George Soros.

And the fact that he is surrounding himself with neocon Republican establishment icons and mainstream warmongers like Rudolph Giuliani, Chris Christie, Richard Haass (current president of the Council on Foreign Relations) doesn't seem to bother you either.

Your "boy" is a bought and paid for stooge.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-11   19:13:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: A K A Stone (#38)

You two have more in common then you think.

I got nothing in common with that fascist prick.

Other than the fact that we both think Budweiser sucks.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-11   19:15:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: GrandIsland (#56)

I think you're being too generous with your characterization.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-11   19:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Gatlin (#61)

Right, because pointing out Trump's globalist backers and neocon establishment warmonger "advisers" is a "liberal" thing to do.

You Trumpettes are a real hoot.

Trump is an establishment whore.

Just like Hillary.

But, you say - he's OUR establishment whore, right guys?

Hilarious.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-11   19:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: GrandIsland, Deckard, Gatlin, sneakypete, delegates staying home (#29)

With Trump as nominee, delegate spots lose appeal for Republicans

In South Carolina, which also selected delegates the weekend after Trump's win, the mood at the state convention was described as somber. "The SCGOP convention feels like a wake. Only 57% turnout, even after alternates were seated. Feel the excitement for November," an adviser to former candidate Ohio Gov. John Kasich, Andrew Boucher, tweeted. A state party source confirmed that attendance was just over 50% of what was expected.

There might be a few Trump delegates over there in the corner?

Most people are staying home and watching re-runs of the libertarian and third party debates. Trump might not make it to 1237, unless more people show up in Cleveland.

Low energy Donald has an enthusiasm gap.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-05-11   19:55:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: hondo68 (#63)

Trump might not make it to 1237, unless more people show up in Cleveland.

OMG. The sky is falling.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-05-11   20:05:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: no gnu taxes (#58)

Do you realize how ridiculous that statement is? Water used in agriculture and industry is what makes modern life possible.

You don't know how rediculous your statement actually is. there are huge areas of cotton irrigated by scarce water resources, complete waste and enough water that the government could buy back vast riparian rights without affecting production. There are vast areas under irrigated rice production which is primarly for export. Do you have any idea how much water is used in a thermal coal fired power station? as to making modern life possible, it is entirely possible that much of that effort is a waste. Mining uses vast amounts of water, to do what? to wash the product rather than refining it by other means. If you are aware of many processes you would know it is possible to reclaim the water but this isn't done

paraclete  posted on  2016-05-11   20:45:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Deckard (#62)

... neocon establishment warmonger "advisers" ...

Trump’s advisers inclusd a Christian academic accused of inciting violence against Muslims. A former Pentagon official who blocked investigations into Bush administration bigwigs. And an assortment of self-professed experts probably few in established foreign policy circles have ever heard of. These are the minds advising Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on foreign policy and national security.

Keith Kellogg, Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, Walid Phares, and Joseph E. Schmitz are names will NOT register with most voters, or many experts in Washington. None of them are especially sought after for foreign policy views and national security expertise in the nation’s capital—which may be why they’re attractive to Trump.

Where are the “neocon establishment warmonger advisers” of which you speak?

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-11   21:12:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: paraclete (#65)

I'm not sure what your point is. Water is reclaimed constantly. The water you flush down the toilet is reclaimed the next time you drink from the faucet.

Water is used in EVERY industrial process. There are floods and droughts and over abundances and lack of water always. So if you are suggesting some ideal society, I'd like to hear what you think it is.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-05-11   21:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: hondo68, GrandIsland (#63)

Low energy Donald has an enthusiasm gap.

It does get exhausting repeating the same facts over and over again to you Paultards … if for no other reason, because facts shouldn’t have to be repeated. In the real world, where you Paultards do not live to face reality … facts are bulletproof, adhered to by any and all and denied only by the those wretched, unbalanced Paultards who have long since been marginalized by society. Donald Trump’s nomination is assured because he is getting more GOP primary votes than anyone in history. Where do you see any lack of enthusiasm in that?

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-11   21:28:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Gatlin (#66)

Where are the “neocon establishment warmonger advisers” of which you speak?

Good grief, How many times do I have to post it before it sinks in?

“Trump’s circle now includes such mainstream warmongers as Rudolph Giuliani, Chris Christie, Richard Haass (current president of the Council on Foreign Relations), and Senator Jeff Sessions. Trump has even identified John Bolton, an Iraq War architect and close ally of the neocons, as a ‘go to’ expert for advice on national security.”

You Trumpettes have been neo-conned.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-11   21:30:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#68)

Donald Trump’s nomination is assured because he is getting more GOP primary votes than anyone in history.

Trump will never be President.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-11   21:32:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Deckard (#70)

Trump will never be President.

You prefer Hillary?

You also said he would never get the nomination.

I think you even said he probably wouldn't qualify for the debates.

I think you also said he would never get more then 20 percent.

The I think you said he would never get 30 percent.

Correct me if I am incorrect.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   21:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Deckard (#69)

We should go to war against Muslims. Wipe them out.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   21:46:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Deckard (#69)

“Trump’s circle now includes such mainstream warmongers as Rudolph Giuliani, Chris Christie, Richard Haass (current president of the Council on Foreign Relations), and Senator Jeff Sessions. Trump has even identified John Bolton, an Iraq War architect and close ally of the neocons, as a ‘go to’ expert for advice on national security.”

You quote is a bunch of bullshit made up in an attempt to bias thinking and promote an anti-Trump agenda.

Trumps has named none of the individuals you listed to be his foreign policy advisors.

Here are the people Trump has named as his foreign policy advisors:

Carter Page: No previous experience.

George Papadopoulos: Hudson Institute / London Center of International Law Practice

Joseph Keith Kellogg: Army 1967-2003 / Iraqi Coalition Provisional Authority 2003-2004

Joseph Schmitz: Managing Director (WDC), Freeh Group International / CEO, Joseph E. Schmitz, PLLC / Chief Operating Officer & General Counsel, The Prince Group / Inspector General of the Department of Defense

Walid Phares: Mitt Romney 2012 presidential / Fox News, Middle East and terrorism expert

You need to stop with the disinformation … it is not working.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-11   21:54:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Deckard (#70)

Trump will never be President.

Then make a bet right now you lying bag of shit. If Trump wins the 2016 presidential election, YOU STOP POSTING ON LF. If Trump loses, I'll stop posting.

Deal?

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-05-11   21:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: GrandIsland (#74)

You remind me of badeye sometimes.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   22:00:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: A K A Stone (#75)

I remember the ID... but not his idiology.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-05-11   22:04:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: GrandIsland (#74)

If Trump loses, I'll stop posting.

Deal?

Really? Do you consider your egoistic remarcks? Who cares if you post or not? I only care about you because of your old job as an elementary school crosswalk guard. We need people like you to hold up a RED sign saying, "STOP."

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   22:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: buckeroo, GrandIsland (#77)

Buck, you really should not to engaging in a battle of wits against GrandIsland since you are such an unarmed opponent.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-11   22:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Gatlin (#78)

Buck, you really should not to engaging in a battle of wits against GrandIsland since you are such an unarmed opponent.

lol

Good to have u back.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-05-11   22:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland, yukon (#78)

you really should not to engaging in a battle of wits against GrandIsland since you are such an unarmed opponent.

OK, explain "unarmed" ... please help ... I certainly don't want to be held up by the kanary klub klan this evening.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   22:23:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: buckeroo. GrandIsland (#80)

OK, explain "unarmed" ... please help ...

Buck, you always need all the "help" you can get.

In your case, unarmed = brain dead.

Canary Clan

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-11   22:28:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Gatlin (#81)

tater ... are you reminiscing in your old age?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   22:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: A K A Stone, Deckard, *2016 The Likely Suspects* (#71)

The Electoral Vote map is not looking too good for Trump.

Clinton 236
Trump 16


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-05-11   22:34:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#83)

The Electoral Vote map is not looking too good for Trump.

Clinton 236
Trump 16

Anyone can change this map to represent anything they want to by usling the following link:

Customize your map by changing one or more states; return here to share it.

It shows desperation when you have to manufacture information. Shame on you ...

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-11   22:45:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Gatlin, hondo68, A K A Stone (#84)

Shame on you ...

tater ... you should have thought of that issue years ago when your best pal used the wrong link over on LP.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   22:49:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: A K A Stone (#71)

I think you even said he probably wouldn't qualify for the debates.

I think you also said he would never get more then 20 percent.

The I think you said he would never get 30 percent.

I never made any such claims.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-11   22:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: A K A Stone (#71)

Trump will never be President.

You prefer Hillary?

False dichotomy.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-11   22:57:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: A K A Stone (#72) (Edited)

We should go to war against Muslims. Wipe them out.

You're insane.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-11   22:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: buckeroo (#80)

a battle of wits against GrandIsland

Not to worry - on a good day, GrandSphincter is a half-wit.

The rest of the time he's as intelligent as lint.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-11   23:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: hondo68 (#83)

Florida is Trumps. Virginia is Trumps. Arizona is Trumps. Pennsylvania is Trumps. New Hamshire is Trumps. Michigan is Trumps. Wisconsin is Trumps.

Your map is liberal fantasy land.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   23:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Deckard (#86)

I never made any such claims.

I stand corrected.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   23:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Deckard (#88)

We should go to war against Muslims. Wipe them out. You're insane.

Muslims are by definition evil.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   23:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Gatlin, all lies, all the time, Lying Canaries, buckeroo, Deckard (#84)

It shows desperation when you have to manufacture information.

The solution to that is for you to quit lying, Lying Tater.

The map contains real data, not something that Gatlin pulled out of yukon's a$$ !!!

www.270towin.com/polling-maps/bMcf


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-05-11   23:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Deckard (#89)

Not to worry ...

There is a lot to worry about. Some of these authoritarians simply and litterally "suck" for a police state.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   23:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Deckard (#87)

False dichotomy.

is that an new definition for republic

paraclete  posted on  2016-05-12   2:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: paraclete (#52)

This might give you great understanding and dispell the myths

This might give you great understanding and dispel your myths.

Australia ~23 million

California ~39 million

Texas ~27 million

Canada ~36 million

From the National Archives of Australia

Only 6.55 percent of the land is arable. 90% of Australians live within 50 Km of the coast. A quarter of the land has been disignated useless.

http://vrroom.naa.gov.au/print/?ID=19050

Educational value

  • is a map modelled on the early 20th-century work of Professor Griffith Taylor of the University of Sydney, who argued that cultivation and settlement should not spread into certain tropical and desert regions in Australia.

  • is typical of the types of map that Griffith Taylor produced in the 1920s to counter arguments for a huge population size for the Australian continent – Griffith Taylor's aim was to advance public understanding of his analysis that the limits to Australian settlement had in fact been reached by the 1920s.

  • shows that the distribution of Australia's population closely followed the distribution of quality agricultural and pastoral land – little has changed in this regard at the beginning of the 21st century.

  • shows that the vast majority of Australia's population inhabited low-lying coastal plains in the east, southeast and southwest – almost 90 per cent of today's Australians live within 50 kilometres of the coast.

  • shows that about a quarter of Australia was designated 'useless' – both at the time the map was drawn and today. Indigenous people would see this claim as false, regarding these lands as significant country; more recently, important mineral discoveries have been made in such areas.

  • shows that a small proportion of Australia's area is quality agricultural land – the country consists of a land area of 7,617,930 square kilometres of which only 6.55 per cent (498,974 square kilometres) is arable land.

  • demonstrates, when compared with more modern land use and population maps, that there has been little change in the pattern of land use and settlement – most traditional farming and habitation occurs east and south of the Great Dividing Range, with huge cattle and sheep stations being the necessary economic units to the west of the range.

  • shows coal fields but gives little indication of their huge extent, especially in New South Wales and Queensland, which produce more than 90 per cent of Australia's black coal, and in Victoria, which produces all of Australia's brown coal – Australia is the world's fourth-largest producer of black coal (7 per cent) and the third-largest producer of brown coal (8 per cent).

Learning content partnership

This learning content – description and educational value statement – co-created by National Digital Learning Resource Network and National Archives of Australia.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-05-12   17:33:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: nolu chan (#96) (Edited)

I take no notice of an opinion from the 1920's, their reality was that they were in the middle of a rabbit and prickly pear plague that had devastated agricultural lands, irrigation was largely unknown and modern farming practices non existant. There is a reason why there are large populations on the coast, it is called the great dividing range, this confined early settlement to the coastal fringe as it was a real barrier both to migration and commerce. In your nation the settlement followed the railways, here the railways followed settlement but to say ariable land is confined to 50 km from the coast is rediculous, this is looking at land through european eyes, Some of the best farming land anywhere is found to the west of that range

today Australian production of wheat is 26,000,000 tons at the time your information was formulated it was about 2,000,000 tons. Just one of the many statistics showing spetacular growth in commodity production of foodstuffs. How do you think we achieved this in 5% of the continent? what is more, there is spectacular growth in productivity with the workforce falling to 365,000. If australian agricultural land is so useless why do you think the chinese want to buy large tracts of it?

When you search the net you should search for up to date opinion not just articles that support your point of view

paraclete  posted on  2016-05-12   18:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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