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Title: The 5th horseman
Source: Revelation 19
URL Source: http://the5horsemen.com
Published: May 6, 2016
Author: Me and John/Jesus
Post Date: 2016-05-06 08:28:45 by interpreter
Keywords: revelation, 5th horseman, Marriage Supper
Views: 23478
Comments: 68

The 5th horseman (who appears in Rev. 19)

Many Christians think the 5th horseman is Jesus, but I disagree for many reasons, first of all because the history books say Jesus returned in 312 AD. But at the same time, it can also be argued that the five horsemen are five dispensations of the second coming.

The name of the 5th horseman is "Word of God" which signifies that the 5th horseman is a Slav. Slav is short for "Slovo" which means Word of God. The name of his horse is "Faithful and True" which is the definition of Orthodox and signifies that he rides the Orthodox Church into power as did the first rider of the white horse.

The sharp two-edged sword coming out of his mouth represents the Word of God which he rules by, and judges and makes war. It also signifies that the 5th horseman is one of the seven golden lampstands established by the early Church to give light to the seven parts of the earth. When connected on a world map or globe, they form a sharp two-edged sword. (See it at 7stars7lampstands.com).

I believe that the 5th horseman is Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbs. The name of the nation that no one recognizes except the fifth horseman is Republica Serpska. The president of Serbia is "king" of the Serbian kings and lords. As general Ratko Mladi hollered out to the birds of the air, standing in the sun on the World News, the Srebronica massacre he was about to carry out was the prophesied Marriage Supper of the Lamb which results in thousands of corpses for the birds of the air to feast on. His exact words are quoted in Rev. 19:18. That may seem unChristian-like to some Christians, but in Luke 19:27 Jesus commands His followers to kill His enemies, defined by Jesus as anyone who does not want a Christian nation to rule over them. That fits the Srebronicans to a T. And about half of the Srebronican's lives were taken, which fulfills the prophecy of Jesus in Luke 17:33-37 and Mat. 24:40-41.

The Srebronica Massacre represents the proper marriage between Church and State. That is, in Republica Srpska, the Church and State are united as one. Also in Serbia, under Milosevic, the Church and State were united as one -- then in 2000 he was defeated at the pols, and was arrested and sent to the Hague. The Good News is (or the really bad news for the enemies of Jesus is) Milosevic's party is now back in power, and once again there is very little separation of Church and State in Serbia, and they are basically united as one.

More so than any other Christian nation, the Serbs rule with a rod of iron, both figuratively and literally. That is, a “rod” can also mean a gun, which is made of iron. At times, Serbian martyrs lead the Serbs into battle, wearing white robes and riding white horses (as is well-documented by WW I historians). But the vast majority of the time since then, Serbian priests dressed in white robes lead the Serbs into battle riding on the turret of a tank.

The False Prophet of ch. 19

The Muslim militants not killed by Milosevic and his generals, plus the false prophet(s) who have aided the Islamic invaders of their ancient homeland "will be cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone" (vv 20-21) . It deeply saddens me to have to finger a popular fellow countryman, but Bill Clinton best fits the description of the false prophet. Almost single-handily he enabled Muslims, the 7th head of Satan, to take over a Christian nation, which is a big No-No with God. It also saddens me that Clinton has many followers today, chief of which is his other half, who (according to some polls) is likely to be our next president. I hope and pray that we elect Trump who hates Muslim militants with a passion as every follower of God should. Otherwise , I fear that we will all go to hell in a hand basket riding on Clinton's coattails (as the Revelation may indeed be suggesting here). Also deserving mention is Britain, France, Germany and Italy, who voted with the US to recognize the new Muslim/Satanic nation in Kosovo while at the same time refusing to recognize the new Christian nation in Bosnia. The false prophet of ch. 19 should not to be confused with the two false prophets of ch. 14 who back the antichrist in the 42 months of great tribulation (known as WW II).

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#1. To: interpreter (#0)

first of all because the history books say Jesus returned in 312 AD.

The name of the 5th horseman is "Word of God" which signifies that the 5th horseman is a Slav. Slav is short for "Slovo" which means Word of God.

(1) The history books do not say that Jesus returned in 312 AD. Some particular book somewhere written by a nut might say it, but the history books don't. Some nut in upstate New York wrote a book that said angels gave him golden plates that he copied. Do you believe that? Another nut wrote Dianetics and people believe that. Do you? "It is written..." doesn't mean anything important. What I've written right here is "Written", and it is actually more useful, authoritative, and true than the book Joe Smith wrote or the book that L. Ron Hubbard wrote. And if you're reading a history book that said that Jesus returned in 312 AD, you'd be better off reading something else.

(2) "Slav" is not short for "Slovo". Slovo means word, but "Slav" means glory. The "Slavs" are the "Glorious ones", not the "words". The Russian cruiser "Slava" is not named "Word", it is named "Glory".

(3) Slobodan Milosevich was a petty tyrant in a backwater corner of the world. He did his acts, right and wrong, and now he is dead, having achieved nothing other than accelerate the breakup of a small, poor and unimportant country.

(4) Bill and Hillary Clinton are not the anti-Christ. They're just people. Sinful people. Nothing more.

Really. Come down off the ledge. People have been writing this sort of over-the-top stuff about petty despots and backwater places since the First Century. They are patently absurd.

And in the end it doesn't really matter whether you die in the ending of the world or die of a heart attack on your couch, does it? Either way, you're dead, and your spirit moves on to the next thing.

Essentially, if you think that Serbia, or America, or any plot of real estate except MAYBE Jerusalem (and probably not even that), has any cosmic significance now, you're just not reading the actual, real Bible correctly. Spend your effort doing that.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-05-06   8:43:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

You deny possibility of Christ appearing after His Resurrection or His Ascension? He appeared to the persecutor of Christians - future St Paul to turn him into protector. Certainly He could appear to the great Roman Emperor to inspire him to turn his pagan hostile Empire into Christian one, source of many Christians kingdoms and crucible of Christian civilization.

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Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord’s disciples. He went to the high priest and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any there who belonged to the Way, whether men or women, he might take them as prisoners to Jerusalem. As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”

“Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked.

“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”

The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything.

A Pole  posted on  2016-05-06   11:04:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A Pole (#12)

You deny possibility of Christ appearing after His Resurrection or His Ascension?

I said nothing of the sort.

I deny the totality of what was written in the post I analyzed. I deny that "every world history text" that writer has ever read said that Jesus Christ returned on October 27th, 312 AD.

Perhaps Jesus himself spread out that banner for Constantine, assuming that happened at all, but I think it is more likely that divine messengers did it, and Jesus wasn't flying through the clouds as a flagbearer.

And yes, it makes a difference.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-05-06   11:40:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Vicomte13 (#17)

deny the totality of what was written in the post I analyzed. I deny that "every world history text" that writer has ever read said that Jesus Christ returned on October 27th, 312 AD.

Perhaps Jesus himself spread out that banner for Constantine, assuming that happened at all, but I think it is more likely that divine messengers did it, and Jesus wasn't flying through the clouds as a flagbearer.

And yes, it makes a difference.

banner???

The sign of Christ was a "Chi Rho" or XP, the first two letters of Christ in Greek. It was an unusual alignment of the visible planets that formed a cross or X with a couple stars in Capricorn. Most of the P is always there. It can easily be seen with any star-tracking software. Just set the date for Oct. 27th, 312 AD.

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#25. To: interpreter (#23)

What is the first word of the Bible?

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-05-06   14:05:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Vicomte13 (#25) (Edited)

What is the first word of the Bible?

In (in English)? But I suppose you mean In the beginning in Hebrew?

I did a quick Google of Basques and according to wikipedia Basques have been around since the beginning of civilization. Is that what you mean?

And it says that about half of Basques are Christians and the other half are atheists or agnostic. Which are you?

interpreter  posted on  2016-05-06   16:16:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: interpreter (#26)

What is the first word of the Bible?

In (in English)? But I suppose you mean In the beginning in Hebrew?

You rounded on me and told me to "read my Bible", as though I haven't.

Given the depth of my studies in the Scriptures, I found this irritating, so I replied with a direct question.

It isn't a simple question, for it requires you to decide what the Bible IS, how you know, and think through language issues.

And in the process of doing that, perhaps your eyes will open to the reality that crazy theories based on nuanced words in a single English translation is probably not the way a man should invest his religious energies.

Of course you're free to do as you please, as is you're right. But the reason I challenge some of this nonsense is not because I am ignorant of the Bible, as your suggestion to me to "read the Bible" implied, but the contrary: because I have, I recognize nonsense that isn't in it.

I'm actually trying to help you, not pick on you. Jesus instructed his followers not to spend their time dwelling on signs, but to do what he said. You will find a better and more rewarding relationship with God if you do that with your religious time, as opposed to studying and believing in nonsense.

Let's say, for a moment, that everything you believe about prophesy, etc., is utterly true, that you see the future, and the identity of horsemen, etc. You have cracked the code and can prophesy!

So what. Balaam was a true prophet. So was Caiaphas. He prophesied. Eli was a prophet, but God broke his neck. Being a seer, knowing, will avail you nothing if you don't do what Jesus said to do. Conversely, being utterly ignorant of prophesy will not harm you at all, as long as you do what Jesus said to do.

That is the place to invest your religious money: read what JESUS said to do, and do it. If you're spending that time instead on the "game of prophesies", you're investing your time badly. Indeed, the sense of superiority that this secret, esoteric knowledge of things hidden gives you is more of a moral hazard to you than not knowing any of it.

And in any case, if your nuances regarding prophesy depend upon nuances of 17th Century English, then you should know that you're wrong about what the words mean.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-05-06   18:36:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Vicomte13 (#32)

And in any case, if your nuances regarding prophesy depend upon nuances of 17th Century English, then you should know that you're wrong about what the words mean.

My interpretation of the Revelation is based on the original Greek text, and not on any English nuances. I have found that most English Bibles are translated wrong, especially when it comes to the Revelation.

interpreter  posted on  2016-05-06   19:04:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#35. To: interpreter (#33)

My interpretation of the Revelation is based on the original Greek text, and not on any English nuances. I have found that most English Bibles are translated wrong, especially when it comes to the Revelation.

So you are calling God a liar.

You're a very foolish person.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-06 19:28:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: interpreter (#33)

My interpretation of the Revelation is based on the original Greek text,, and not on any English nuances. I have found that most English Bibles are translated wrong, especially when it comes to the Revelation.

Two questions:

(1) Which Greek manuscript tradition, specifically? Patriarchal Text? Erasmus Text? Alexandrian Text?

(2) Diabazete koine ellenike?

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