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Title: NATE SILVER: 'We basically got the Republican race wrong'
Source: Busines Insider
URL Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/nate-silver-trump-wrong-2016-5
Published: May 5, 2016
Author: Dan Turkel
Post Date: 2016-05-05 22:32:43 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 6037
Comments: 29

Donald Trump

In September 2015, writer and statistician Nate Silver urged people to "calm down" about the possibility of Donald Trump winning the Republican presidential nomination.

Two months later, he wrote that the media should "stop freaking out about Donald Trump's polls" and that Trump's odds were "higher than 0 but (considerably) less than 20 percent."

Six months after that, after Ted Cruz had dropped out of the race but before John Kasich had done so, Silver wrote: "Donald Trump is going to win the Republican nomination."

"Other than being early skeptics of Jeb Bush, we basically got the Republican race wrong," Silver wrote.

It's easy to cringe at how, in August, for instance, Silver outlined the "six stages of doom" that he foresaw for Trump in the coming months — and how, in December, he updated the post to note that "the most difficult hurdles between Donald Trump and the Republican presidential nomination are still to come."

So how did the site that prides itself on a numbers-based approach end up just another late-stage Trump bear with its tail between its legs? Silver has some ideas.

For one, some of Silver's earliest Trump doomsday analysis was, by its own admission, in line with the theories of "The Party Decides," a theory that posits candidates must be electable and believers in the party's positions. By January, Silver was rereading the book: Either the book's hypothesis that functioning parties nominate strategic candidates is wrong, he said then, or the Republican Party is not a functioning one.

But Silver isn't giving up on "The Party Decides" quite yet. So when, on Wednesday, Silver admitted that "in Trump, the Republican Party may have a candidate who fails on both counts," he unsurprisingly also argued for the "failings of the Republican Party as an institution."

Silver wrote:

To me, the most surprising part of Trump's nomination — which is to say, the part I think I got wrongest — is that Trump won the nomination despite having all types of deviations from conservative orthodoxy. He seemed wobbly on all parts of Reagan's three-legged stool: economic policy (he largely opposes free trade and once advocated for a wealth tax and single-payer health care), social policy (consider his constant flip-flopping over abortion), and foreign policy (he openly mocked the Bush administration's handling of the Iraq War, which is still fairly popular among Republicans).

But Republican institutional failure alone is only one of three major facets of Silver's analysis, which simultaneously addressed Trump's success and Silver's (predictive) failure.

The other two components are the incredible volume of media coverage of Trump and the tribal nature of Republican primary voters. On the latter, Silver said that Trump's appeal to "cultural grievance" worked.

"It's a point in favor of those who see politics as being governed by cultural identity," he wrote, "as opposed to carefully calibrating one's position on a left-right spectrum."

Statistical analysis is always still analysis and, as such, requires some assumptions. And though he didn't address it specifically in his post on Wednesday, Silver said in November that a statistical approach to presidential-campaign prediction is a hard problem because there's only so much data.

Perhaps Silver's most prescient prediction came in November: "Unprecedented events can occur with some regularity." (1 image)

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#1. To: cranky (#0)

economic policy (he largely opposes free trade and once advocated for a wealth tax and single-payer health care), social policy (consider his constant flip-flopping over abortion), and foreign policy (he openly mocked the Bush administration's handling of the Iraq War, which is still fairly popular among Republicans).

But Republican institutional failure alone is only one of three major facets of Silver's analysis, which simultaneously addressed Trump's success and Silver's (predictive) failure.

The other two components are the incredible volume of media coverage of Trump and the tribal nature of Republican primary voters. On the latter, Silver said that Trump's appeal to "cultural grievance" worked.

Trump was right about the wealth tax. He was right about single payer health insurance. And he's right now about taking down state borders to health insurance sales. His current policy: appoint Scalias to the Supreme Court, and oppose abortion, with exceptions for rape (bad), incest (bad) and life of the mother (good) is imperfect theologically, but politically is far more likely to get abortion banned incrementally than my purism would. Trump is right to mock the Bush Administration's handling of the Iraq War - it was disastrous.

And Trump is right about the cultural issues, which is to say: the Wall.

This is why I like Trump and despise Republicans - he's right in all the places they're wrong.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-05-05   22:55:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Trump is right to mock the Bush Administration's handling of the Iraq War - it was disastrous.

We almost agree on that one.

I call it "criminal",and he and those in his cabinet responsible for that illegal war should go to prison for invading Iraq.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-05-06   9:56:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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I call it "criminal",and he and those in his cabinet responsible for that illegal war should go to prison for invading Iraq.

At the final judgment, those who have shed human blood, and those who have ordered others to shed human blood, and those who have paid for the shedding of human blood at their bidding, will be held accountable by the ultimate judge.

Those who never repented of it, will be condemned as killers and thrown into the Lake of Fire for utter destruction.

So, if these wars and decisions were killing by God's standards, and these leaders go to their deaths proud, arrogant and unrepentant, they are doomed to Hell.

Therefore, you don't need to worry: nobody ever escapes justice.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-05-06 11:29:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#2)

When is Trump going to drop out? Or have your changed your mind and admitted you are stupid?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-06 18:12:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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I call it "criminal",and he and those in his cabinet responsible for that illegal war should go to prison for invading Iraq.

That is pretty stupid when there was a congressional resolution authorizing the invasion.

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