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Title: Trump accuses Cruz's father of helping JFK's assassin (lyin' Donald)
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Politico
URL Source: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016- ... 5/trump-ted-cruz-father-222730
Published: May 3, 2016
Author: Nolan D. McCaskill
Post Date: 2016-05-03 14:29:14 by Hondo68
Keywords: nobody talks about it, full of garbage, with Lee Harvey Oswald
Views: 2749
Comments: 26
Donald Trump on Tuesday alleged that Ted Cruz’s father was with John F. Kennedy’s assassin shortly before he murdered the president, parroting a National Enquirer story claiming that Rafael Cruz was pictured with Lee Harvey Oswald handing out pro-Fidel Castro pamphlets in New Orleans in 1963. A Cruz campaign spokesperson told the Miami Herald, which pointed out numerous flaws in the Enquirer story, that it was “another garbage story in a tabloid full of garbage.” “His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being — you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous,” Trump said Tuesday during a phone interview with Fox News. “What is this, right prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings it up. They don't even talk about that. That was reported, and nobody talks about it.” “I mean, what was he doing — what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting?” Trump continued. “It’s horrible.” Trump’s tangent followed his rebuke of Rafael Cruz using the pulpit to court evangelicals for his son. “I implore, I exhort every member of the body of Christ to vote according to the word of God and vote for the candidate that stands on the word of God and on the Constitution of the United States of America,” Rafael Cruz said in a video clip aired by Fox News. “And I am convinced that man is my son, Ted Cruz. The alternative could be the destruction of America.” Asked to respond, Trump called it a disgrace. “I think it’s a disgrace that he’s allowed to do it. I think it’s a disgrace that he’s allowed to say it,” he said, before touting his support from Jerry Falwell Jr. and other evangelical leaders. “You look at so many of the ministers that are backing me, and they’re backing me more so than they’re backing Cruz, and I’m winning the evangelical vote,” Trump continued. “It's disgraceful that his father can go out and do that. And just — and so many people are angry about it. And the evangelicals are angry about it, the way he does that.” “But I think it's horrible,” he added. “I think it's absolutely horrible that a man can go and do that, what he's saying there.” Poster Comment: Trump's not stupid enough to believe this National Enquirer story, is he? Lyin' Donald
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
Trump is the absolute KING OF TROLLS and these numbnuts keep responding to his nonsense. Trump pokes lyin ted and teddy goes batsh*t crazy, game, set, match
Projection. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
That's exactly where we want our president getting his information. So The Donald will make America great again by restricting the First Amendment. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
I actually agree with Trump regarding the libel laws. There should be one law of libel for all people. Just because a person is a celebrity should not mean that anybody can take any false shot he wants at him, without the need to fact check and verify. Take a shot at a private person, and if you're the publisher, YOU have the obligation of making sure that what you are writing that is defamatory is true. If it isn't, you're guilty of libel. But the Supreme Court flipped that around for famous people. In their case, they have to prove that the media acted with malice when it printed something false. So, the media can absolutely crucify some public figure, claiming that they had sources (however reliable), and the public favor has to prove that the paper actually knew that the story was false, and printed it anyway in order to do harm. So, we have two completely different standards of the First Amendment. I think we should only have one, and that it should be the standard that always applied to private people. I think that the Supreme Court's decision to gut the protection for public people and to exaggerate the press's ability to publish falsehoods with impunity was not protecting the First Amendment - the First Amendment was fine for the 180 years before that decision - but was simply gutting the individual right to privacy and right to not be defamed, neither of which are enshrined in the Constitution, but which ought to be.
sorry, but you appear to have lost your that grip on that thread you're grabbing, it's going to be ugly tonight, get ready to WHINE yourself to sleep
You're in for at least 4 years of whining with President Hillary, if Trump is nominated. The Canuck that takes a lickin', and keeps on tickin' for pete's sake, give a guy a head's up before you post a pic like that, scared the crap out of me
Where's the "libel" here?
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
You appear to have provided no facts or logic in support of your claim. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
Whether it's true or not, Trump really doesn't need to attack Cruz at this point in time. He is already so far ahead that Cruz has no chance to catch up. Didn't Trump make some sort of promise a week or so ago that he was going to start acting more presidential or something like that? I think this is more evidence that Trump doesn't have enough common sense to be president. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Sorry dude, but I just can't identify all your illusions
trump won't let up on this chump until he's won then he'll kick the punk's butt again. that's one of the things i love about trump
Run along now, pee-wee.
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
Didn't you see the picture of Rafael Cruz on the grassy knoll ? His father was also the 20th hijacker. "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato
Hillary will slaughter Trump, of that I have no doubt. Of course Cruz has no chance if he were nominated either. Voters are being played like a drum by the PTB. It is the only way they could get Hillary into the Presidency was to sabotage all the Pubbies. Who is a big supporter of Hillary, why it is Donald Trump. After all this is over, he goes back to his life, and the nation is in tatters. This last attempt to smear Cruz with his father being associated with the JFK assassin, and of course being the Zodiak killer, is all on DT. He is the father of all the slander going on, and I cannot see a way to delude myself into voting for him. It is past the time to worry about political solutions, the fix is in.
that the first post you responded to ace, now do you realize just how much time you wasted on my goofy ass the worst thing is that you're not even funny
So you're outing yourself as a troll?
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
No silly goose, I've always been a troll and never tried to hide it.
There is no libel by Trump. The false claim is in the Politico caption -- "Trump accuses Cruz's father of helping JFK's assassin (lyin' Donald)." What Trump said was, "His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being — you know, shot." Trump asserted that Rafael Cruz Sr. was with Lee Harvey Oswald. He did not characterize what Cruz Sr. was doing with Oswald. He noted such was reported. Such was reported, with a picture purporting to show Cruz Sr. with Oswald. Whether true or false, what Trump said would not be libel. Trump did not allege Cruz Sr. was helping with anything, and certainly not with the assassination of JFK.
The Trumpette's must be SOOOO proud to support such an intelligent and humble candidate,whose entire persona and intellect speaks to their own. I have no doubt this little example of his character will gain him the support of the conspiracy freaks everywhere,though. How long can it be before he is promising to open Area 51 up for public inspection as Trump 51 musemint park,with the promise "I'm gonna send THESE aliens back to their home solar system too,and gonna make their home world pay us damages!" BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Whether it's true or not, Trump really doesn't need to attack Cruz at this point in time. Yeah,he does. He is still the same insecure overcompensating little trust fund snot and bully he has always been. Fish gotta swim,birds gotta fly,and Trump has to run his mouth at people he suspects of being superior to him (practically everybody) from far, far away while surrounded by bodyguards. He is still the snotty little shithead he was when he was 8 years old. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Every word repeated because every word is true and needs repeating. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
You are a soulless drudge with no sense of shame or conscience at all,aren't you? High-functioning Autistic? BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
It's a shame to hear your momma had that Zika thing and you were born with a miniature brain.
I don't know. I was commenting generically on my approval of Trump's view that the First Amendment has been badly misapplied by the Supreme Court, allowing public figures to be falsely maligned with impunity. If I were to look at the base case, I would probably say that accusing somebody of a monstrous crime (such as the assassination of a President), is libelous, and that the only defense to it would be truth...which the accusers would have to present.
It's not. But I do wish that Trump had let this one pass, because it was just stupid.
#2. To: calcon (#1)
teddy goes batsh*t crazy
#3. To: hondo68 (#0)
parroting a National Enquirer
“I think it’s a disgrace that he’s allowed to do it. I think it’s a disgrace that he’s allowed to say it,”
#4. To: ConservingFreedom (#3)
The Donald will make America great again by restricting the First Amendment.
#5. To: ConservingFreedom (#3)
#6. To: calcon (#5)
get ready to WHINE
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#7. To: hondo68 (#6)
#8. To: Vicomte13 (#4)
#9. To: calcon (#5)
you appear to have lost your that [sic] grip
#10. To: hondo68 (#0)
(Edited)
Trump's not stupid enough to believe this National Enquirer story, is he?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#11. To: ConservingFreedom (#9)
in support of your claim.
#12. To: Deckard (#10)
#13. To: calcon (#11)
#14. To: hondo68 (#0)
Trump accuses Cruz's father of helping JFK's assassin
#15. To: hondo68 (#0)
#16. To: ConservingFreedom (#13)
Trump is the absolute KING OF TROLLS and these numbnuts keep responding to his nonsense.
#17. To: calcon (#16)
#18. To: ConservingFreedom (#17)
So you're outing yourself as a troll?
#19. To: ConservingFreedom, Vicomte13 (#8)
Where's the "libel" here?
#20. To: hondo68 (#0)
(Edited)
“His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being — you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous,” Trump said Tuesday during a phone interview with Fox News. “What is this, right prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings it up. They don't even talk about that. That was reported, and nobody talks about it.”
#21. To: Deckard (#10)
Trump's not stupid enough to believe this National Enquirer story, is he?
#22. To: jeremiad (#15)
Hillary will slaughter Trump, of that I have no doubt. Of course Cruz has no chance if he were nominated either. Voters are being played like a drum by the PTB. It is the only way they could get Hillary into the Presidency was to sabotage all the Pubbies. Who is a big supporter of Hillary, why it is Donald Trump. After all this is over, he goes back to his life, and the nation is in tatters. This last attempt to smear Cruz with his father being associated with the JFK assassin, and of course being the Zodiak killer, is all on DT. He is the father of all the slander going on, and I cannot see a way to delude myself into voting for him. It is past the time to worry about political solutions, the fix is in.
#23. To: nolu chan (#19)
Trump did not allege Cruz Sr. was helping with anything, and certainly not with the assassination of JFK.
#24. To: sneakypete (#23)
You are a soulless drudge with no sense of shame or conscience at all,aren't you?
#25. To: ConservingFreedom (#8)
Where's the "libel" here?
#26. To: Deckard (#10)
I think this is more evidence that Trump doesn't have enough common sense to be president.
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