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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: How the worm turns
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URL Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36185012
Published: May 2, 2016
Author: paraclete
Post Date: 2016-05-02 09:45:31 by paraclete
Keywords: None
Views: 8365
Comments: 43

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump has accused China of "raping" the US, in renewed criticism of China's trade policy. He told a rally in Indiana that China was responsible for "the greatest theft in the history of the world". Mr Trump, a billionaire businessman, has long accused China of manipulating its currency to make its exports more competitive globally. This, he says, has badly damaged US businesses and workers. "We can't continue to allow China to rape our country, and that's what we're doing," he told the campaign rally on Sunday. "We're going to turn it around, and we have the cards, don't forget it," he added. "We have a lot of power with China." China's complex relationship with Trump Trump favours high tariffs on China exports Mr Trump, in his campaign manifesto, pledges to "cut a better deal with China that helps American businesses and workers compete". He sets out four goals that include immediately declaring China "a currency manipulator" and putting "an end to China's illegal export subsidies and lax labour and environmental standards". Latest figures from the US government show the trade deficit with China reached an all-time high of $365.7bn (£250.1bn) last year. By February this year, it had already reached $57bn. There was no immediate response from Beijing to Mr Trump's comments, but he is seen by many in China as an inspiration rather than an antagonist, says the BBC's Vincent Ni. It isn't funny when it happens to you but comedian Donald the Dump has accused China of doing what america has been doing to the rest of the world for years.

The man is mad, doesn't he understand foriegn policy even a little, including not showing your hand

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It isn't funny when it happens to you but comedian Donald the Dump has accused China of doing what america has been doing to the rest of the world for years. The man is mad, doesn't he understand foriegn policy even a little, including not showing your hand

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#2. To: paraclete (#0)

The man is mad, doesn't he understand foriegn policy even a little, including not showing your hand

Donald Trump understands that a $500B annual trade deficit is not sustainable.

This election is about the economy, stupid. Trump understands what ignrant liberals and sellouts do not.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-05-02   10:07:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: nolu chan (#2)

Donald Trump understands that a $500B annual trade deficit is not sustainable.

nations go through times of trade surplus and trade deficit, and management of this is what government is about. What Dump doesn't realise is that this doesn't work the same as business because it is the result of the trading of thousands of businesses. If he wants to change the equation then innovation is needed to get away from these old products China is making and exporting. Dump thinks this is about currency manipulation, so if he wants to play China's game he needs to devalue the US Dollar. If he does that he might get a short term bounce in the US economy and the balance of trade but the US needs to sell more products it is good at making, Planes, Automobiles, Gadgets and stop buying crap from China, but who owns these plants in China? A question Dump needs to ask

paraclete  posted on  2016-05-02   17:43:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: paraclete (#11)

nations go through times of trade surplus and trade deficit, and management of this is what government is about.

Establishment brain trusts, such as yourself, have achieved huge trade deficits and $19 trillion in debt, 18T since 1981. It is slated to rise to $21T. What Trump realizes, along with millions of others, is that such debt is not sustainable.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-05-03   23:27:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: nolu chan (#30)

Establishment brain trusts, such as yourself, have achieved huge trade deficits and $19 trillion in debt,

You want to include me in your saga of error, but the policies that I would follow are very different. Long ago the US swallowed the very silly idea that it could mortgage its future, and use long term debt to pay for short term objectives.

Mr. Dump may understand that these debt levels are unsustainable, but short of shutting the place down, I haven't heard any policies that would reign it in and reverse the situation. Honestly, making your allies pay is a very foolish idea, what is he; a Mafia Don extortionist? When you realise that the nation is over governed,a price of this republican democratic utopia you might begin to understand what you have to do

paraclete  posted on  2016-05-04   0:04:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: paraclete (#32)

You want to include me in your saga of error, but the policies that I would follow are very different.

Enjoy your socialist paradise.

Mr. Dump may understand that these debt levels are unsustainable, but short of shutting the place down, I haven't heard any policies that would reign it in and reverse the situation.

You have been listening to yourself, which explains why you did not hear any policies that would reign it in.

Honestly, making your allies pay is a very foolish idea, what is he; a Mafia Don extortionist?

Balanced trade is not a foolish idea. Trade with a $500 billion annual deficit is a very foolish idea. America First foreign policy will not permit that.

An import tax is not extortion.

When you realise that the nation is over governed, a price of this republican democratic utopia you might begin to understand what you have to do

Not elect a Democrat socialist or a GOPe establishment candidate, but I repeat myself.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-05-04   16:13:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: nolu chan (#40)

Balanced trade is not a foolish idea.

No but you cannot demand balanced trade with every country, this is why we have currency, so that a surplus with one country can pay for a deficit with another. Ideas like this are just rhetoric, they deny reality. The poorer countries should demand balanced trade with you and build tarriffs against your goods may I remind you that free trade was your idea

You want to get your house in order start by reducing the size of government, that is federal, state and local. That is not socialist policy but then I'm not a socialist. you want to balance trade, make products the world wants, some products in your domestic market are not what the world wants, you want to change the balance of trade, stop your rapacious comsumption, it is not China's fault that they have sold you what you want to buy cheaper than you make it yourselves.

The whole point is Dump spouts populous nonsense, one liners with no substance behind it

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#42. To: paraclete (#41)

No but you cannot demand balanced trade with every country, this is why we have currency, so that a surplus with one country can pay for a deficit with another.

That is not the purpose of currency.

The poorer countries should demand balanced trade with you and build tarriffs against your goods may I remind you that free trade was your idea

Remind me with a quote of me. Happy hunting.

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=42123&Disp=35#C35

#35. To: tomder55, rlk, A K Stone, Redleghunter (#34)

You know what is primitive mode of thinking ? 18th century Mercantilism is an outmoded primitive mode of thinking.

You know what's not working. What we are doing now, whatever it is called. Whatever we were doing through the presidency of Jimmy Carter did not rack up $1T in debt over the course of 200 years.

nolu chan posted on 2015-09-27 1:10:29 ET

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you want to balance trade, make products the world wants,

American corporations make lots of products the world wants. Trump wants them to bring manufacturing back home. He will use various means to "encourage" them to do so if they want to sell their products here.

you want to change the balance of trade, stop your rapacious comsumption

Ah, screw that. Let the government spend what it can afford to spend, within the constraints of a balanced budget.

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