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Title: Cruz Again Bests Trump at Most Weekend Delegate Contests
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bloomberg.com
URL Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a ... most-weekend-delegate-contests
Published: May 1, 2016
Author: John McCormick
Post Date: 2016-05-01 11:48:27 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 8862
Comments: 39
From Virginia in the east to Arizona in the west, the Texan nearly ran the tables at state party conventions where delegates were picked to attend the July meeting in Cleveland Trump has won the most state primaries, including a sweep of five northeastern states on April 26, and has gained over 10 million votes from primary and caucus voters so far, to Cruz's 6.9 million. Yet Cruz's campaign has repeatedly shown superior organization and understanding when it comes to the arcane delegate-selection process and his quest to secure people loyal to him at a possible contested convention. "It is going to be a contested convention," Cruz said Sunday on ABC's "This Week" broadcast. "I believe at the convention, the highest total Trump gets, it will be the first ballot and that we are seeing the party unite behind our campaign." Cruz's delegate wins could be merely symbolic, though, if Trump secures the 1,237 delegates needed win the party's presidential nomination. The real estate developer could still do that on June 7, when California, New Jersey and three other states hold the final set of Republican primaries, offering a total of 303 delegates. There were also some signs this weekend that Trump's campaign is getting better at grass-roots organizing. He scored delegate victories in Massachusetts and held his own in Arkansas. Arizona was a Cruz blowout, even though Trump won the state's March 22 primary with 47 percent of the vote to Cruz's 25 percent. A slate backing the Texan won virtually all of the 28 at-large delegate slots and roughly split the 27 selected by congressional district, according to the Associated Press. The outcome prompted anger from Trump supporters, including former Arizona Governor Jan Brewer. "I got cheated," the AP quoted her as saying as the results became known. The campaigns for Cruz and Ohio Governor John Kasich offered nearly identical slates of candidates and the combined votes helped lead to wins for the Texas senator. State Treasurer Jeff DeWit, who chairs Trump's Arizona campaign, told reporters that a challenge to the delegate selection process is possible after the party rejected re-vote calls. "The Trump campaign is very unhappy with the results," DeWit told the AP and others. "We don't feel that this was a fair process. The Trump button got checked more than any other, so why do we have so few delegates?" Cruz's campaign pushed back by saying there was no malfeasance involved, and that the delegate victories were simply a matter of adding their supporters with those who don't want Trump. In Virginia, Cruz supporters won 10 of 13 delegate slots selected at a state convention, the Washington Post reported. Cruz finished a distant third in Virginia's March 1 primary behind Trump and Florida Senator Marco Rubio, who has since dropped out of the race. Cruz supporters dominated the party's convention on Saturday at James Madison University in Harrisonburg. The Texan was helped by Ken Cuccinelli, Virginia's former attorney general and a campaign aide on the delegate front nationally. Delegates from Virginia, Arizona and many other states will be required to vote for Trump on the first ballot in Cleveland because he won their primaries and state party rules often require loyalty to the winner on the initial round. It's mathematically impossible for Cruz or Kasich to win enough delegates for the nomination before the convention. Instead, the remaining Republican candidates, pared from an initial slate of 17, hope to prevent Trump from winning enough delegates for the nomination. Tuesday's Indiana primary will be a critical test for stop-Trump forces. Even Cruz has acknowledged that a Trump win there could make it impossible to block the front-runner from winning the nomination. A Wall Street Journal/NBC News/Marist poll on Sunday showed Trump 15 points ahead of Cruz, a wider margin than other recent surveys compiled by RealClearPolitics. In Massachusetts, at least 23 of the 27 delegates picked Saturday were supported by the Trump campaign, the Boston Globe reported. Trump easily won the state's March 1 primary. At congressional district conventions in Arkansas, where Trump narrowly beat Cruz in the March 1 primary, the front-runner won half of the 12 delegates selected Saturday, according to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. Five others supported Cruz. After Trump's dominant wins this week he has 996 delegates, according to an AP tally. Cruz has 565, followed by a distant Kasich at 153.Even as his campaign struggles for survival, Senator Ted Cruz dominated weekend delegate selection contests that he and other Republicans hope could block Donald Trump from winning the party's nomination at their national convention.
LQQks like the Cruz political camp has a different opinion about "mathematical possibilities" to take the GOP helm.
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#1. To: buckeroo, el Chapo, Lake Erie invasion (#0)
"It is going to be a contested convention," Cruz said It will be fairly easy for Ted Cruz's, Canadian Cuban Navy to invade Cleveland by Lake Erie, let drug cartel leader el Chapo behead Trump, and capture the GOP nomination. Admiral Cruz, Canadian Cubano Navy Looks like the Cruz camp is hellbent on doing to the GOP what Cruz did in the Senate: use procedural rules to seize attention and force everybody's hand. That worked for him in the Senate for awhile. But then it stopped working. Cruz forced the Senate to listen to him. They did. They remained unconvinced, and then when he kept trying to do the same thing procedurally, they overrode the procedures and moved on. It's fine to play procedural games, when you're in the minority, to a certain point, to make your point. But once you've made your point, been heard and still not persuaded, to persist with it to try to literally force a minority position on a majority - that doesn't work. It doesn't work because the majority can play the same game, and simply change the rules or disregard the old rule - who will STOP them - to prevent the angry and vocal minority from effecting a hijack. Cruz cannot take over the GOP from within and drive out the majority. The majority will change the rules and expel Cruz and his people first. The handwriting is already on the wall. Once Trump wins Indiana all hope of stopping him will evaporate among all realistic people. Cruz can doggedly seek to take over the process from within, but he'll fail and he'll alienate the new President. As things stand, were Cruz to leave now, Trump will have plenty to focus on. But if Cruz stays and tries to disrupt everything, Trump will add changing the party so this cannot happen again - same thing that the Senate did to Cruz, to stop him from periodically disrupting everything. The problem with signing onto the Cruz kamikaze mission against Trump is that what is going to happen is that the people who do that, who lash their causes to stopping Trump, are the most outlying causes in the Republican camp. If they lash themselves to go after Trump, they will not stop him from getting the nomination, and they won't stop him from winning the White House - huge number of middle class blue collar workers will vote Trump for economic reasons, and Trump's success will reorient the Republican Party to be a nationalist, white working class party, leaving the Democrat party with blacks, Hispanics, Jews, feminists, gays, transgenders, and a bunch of other minoritarian interests that won't be able to hold. The Republicans cannot do that NOW because it is skewed too far to the rich, and to minoritarian arch-conservative interests. Those interests are coalescing around Cruz. The billionaires are not stupid enough to ride the Cruz train into destruction, so they're already bending the knee to Trump, just like they did to Ike when Ike refused to repudiate the New Deal. Half a loaf is better than none. But the causes that rally around Cruz are, like Cruz, the most absolutely unyielding, uncompromising and off-putting in the party. They are the unappeasable purists. But they've lost control. They MUST compromise somewhat, with Trump, to have a seat at the table. If instead they sign on with Cruz to go full kamikaze on Trump - and then Trump wins anyway with the blue collar crossovers, what that will MEAN is that pleasing middle and working class Democrat crossovers is the way to victory, and Trump will change the Republican Party to appeal to that broad middle. The Democrats will be left with the minorities and the sexual lunatics, and the Cruzites will be left with the most hardcore bitter enders, and they'll be out of the party and out of power, and lose their ability to shape anything. For my part, I think it would be better to keep the right wing fringe in the party. As a tactical matter the rape and incest exceptions on abortion are, for me, an unhappy but necessary compromise. I would like to have the right there as the conscience of the party, so that once Roe is overturned by a Trump court, and the country gets used to restricting abortion, that the majority for dealing with those exceptions is built. But truth is the moment is rapidly coming where those who sign onto the Cruz ship will end up shoved out of the party once Trump clinches the win against their resistance.
That's right! We don't want a delegate who reflects the wishes of the majority. We want one who knows how to game the system.
Which earned him delegates' pledged votes for the first round (or more in some states) - nothing more. tRump thinks he's still on reality TV. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
The Trump support among the bound delegates is real soft.
"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato
Don't worry. Trumps POPULAR VOTE is so vast, even the electoral college system won't defeat the popular vote. Trump will slaughter any candidate. The people are sick and tired of politicians.... Including that shithead Ron Paultard.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Who would vote for Trump? Oh, thats right ... lazy, socialist Americans that want mexico to pay for a wall that has been on the books for almost a decade without Congressional funding. But, Trump is going to build the wall ... haw? charge Mexico because Congress won't pay for it? Stupid Americans fall for the silliest things.
Sorry to spoil your fun - but Ron Paul hasn't been a politician for 3 years. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
Don't tell anyone about that wittle, itsie-bitsie teenie, tiny detail especially nolu chan....
I'm sorry to bring you to reality, but that's because Ron Pailtard was as popular as a mayor from a city with a population of 50,000 So shut your Paultard polisher. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
True. Last I heard he was crapping his diapers in some Port Arthur retirement home while blaming America and the neocons about his awful rice pudding. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
I'm sorry to bring you to reality, but here are the results from Paul's last congressional primary: U. S. Representative District 14 and from the general election: U. S. Representative District 14 A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul#Post- congressional_career: In April 2013, Paul founded the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity, a foreign policy think tank that seeks to promote his non-interventionist views.[199] The institute is part of his larger foundation Foundation for Rational Economics and Education. In the same month, he began to offer the Ron Paul Curriculum, a homeschool online curriculum developed by Gary North and taught from a "free market and Christian" perspective; it is free from grades kindergarten–5 and available to paid members from 6–12.[200] In May 2015, Ron Paul started a new internet broadcast called the Ron Paul Liberty Report. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
Didn't the douche bag lose 3 presidential primaries? Now shake your head YES, dummy. Paultard is just a 6% LOOSER. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Yay! Cruz's delegate "wins" are meaningless on the first round. As was observed, last week was the nail in the coffin. Indiana will be when Cruz realizes he is in the coffin. There won't be a second round.
No, 2 - after the first of which he continued to easily win congressional nomination and election, proving that his no longer being a politician has nothing to do with lack of popularity, contrary to your loudly ignorant claim in post #10. But please continue braying for my amusement as I'm sure you will. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
"Winning" is not the same as "winning the first vote."
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
Dr. Ron Paul won the Libertarian Party nomination in '88 and ran against Herbie "Grassy Knoll" Bush and Mike Dukakis. I was amused to remind you that he will die before he wins presidency. The same goes for that other politician that's followed by an asshole cult too, Commie Sanders. Now, say it. PRESIDENT TRUMP. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
GI, How about his reality? Now, let us all say: PRESIDENT TRUMP!
Losing is losing. https://www.bing.com/search?q=delegate+count&PC=U316&FORM=CHROMN Bing projects Trump will win Indiana and go to the convention with 1,364 delegates (Cruz 635, Kasich 185). - - -
Your factoid has nothing to do with anything previously discussed. But feel free to babble away. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
LINK: Donald Trump Leads Cruz by 15 Points in Crucial Indiana Race Chan, Que the Roy Orbison - "It's Over" from Black and White Night - YouTube Say it everyone, all together now: PRESIDENT TRUMP!
Still leaves your loudly ignorant claim in post #10 a smoldering ruin. Better put some ice on that. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
Oh, I will feel free. I am merely imitating Ron Paul when I talk rapidly and continuously in a foolish, excited, or incomprehensible way. Ron Paul was the master of babble. GO TRUMP.
My claim is accurate. He ain't popular enough to win shit... and most of his fan base are rabid assholes.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Except congressional nomination and election over and over again. Lack of national success is not why he's no longer a politician. Your claim is crap. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
Exactly
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
ConservingFreedom defends as Ron Paul as aggressively as TooConservative.
Ron Paul is out of the political equation, pal. Get over it. Your problem is simple: elect Trump and find all of campaign promises to be pure, unadulterated bullshit. It is kinda like Bernie Sanders giving away everything: pure bullshit.
But unfortunately his asshole 6% rabid fan base isn't retired to piss in a bedpan. We must endure them here, bitching about Trump and staying quiet about commie "free shit" sanders and KILLary "bullshit" Clinton. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
No, I simply point out that GrandIsland is still beating an absent horse, then point out the flaws in his claim about why the horse is absent, then note your dragging in off-topic Paul factoids. If anyone's "aggressive" about Paul it's the two of you. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
I thought it went without saying that they each suck the sweat off dead goats' balls - despite tRump's statement that KILLary would make a great president. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
Still suffering from (Ron) Paul Derangement Syndrome are ya? Unlike many other illnesses, PDS isn’t at all difficult to identify. The Paulophobe’s discourse on all matters pertaining to Ron Paul, or at least to Ron Paul’s presidential candidacy, is replete with, not just inconsistencies, but glaring inconsistencies, contradictions that are so profound that even a college freshman enrolled in an introductory logic course couldn’t help but to be pained by them. To anyone remotely attuned to reality or possessed of a modicum of reason, the Paulophobe’s utterances can’t but sound like the babblings of a baby: indecipherable noises intending to signify we know not what. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much From way back at Liberty Post, they'd post up 20 anti Ron Paul articles on the sidebar, and then complain about "Paultards" hogging the site. Those two are the reason that Paultards were invented. Yeah, I remember that particular thread. Gatlin and his merry band of pseudo-intellectuals (remember when Gatlin was caught plagiarizing several times?) were all guilty of spamming the site with dozens of hit pieces from obscure, slanted blogs, left wing websites, and even tried to use a disgraced former Paul Staffer (Eric Dondero) as a legitimate source several times. I posted 2 or three pro-Paul articles, yet I had my posting privileges reduced to 5 a day. They pulled the same crap in 2008. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#2. To: buckeroo (#0)
#3. To: buckeroo (#0)
"Yet Cruz's campaign has repeatedly shown superior organization and understanding when it comes to the arcane delegate-selection process ..."
#4. To: buckeroo (#0)
Trump has won the most state primaries
#5. To: buckeroo (#0)
#6. To: misterwhite (#3)
#7. To: GrandIsland (#6)
Trumps POPULAR VOTE is so vast, even the electoral college system won't defeat the popular vote.
#8. To: GrandIsland (#6)
The people are sick and tired of politicians.... Including that shithead Ron Paultard.
#9. To: tomder55, nolu chan (#5)
The Trump support among the bound delegates is real soft.
#10. To: ConservingFreedom (#8)
Sorry to spoil your fun - but Ron Paul hasn't been a politician for 3 years.
#11. To: ConservingFreedom (#8)
Sorry to spoil your fun - but Ron Paul hasn't been a politician for 3 years.
#12. To: GrandIsland (#10)
Ron Pailtard was as popular as
John Gay REP 3,004 5.28%
Tim Graney REP 5,499 9.66%
Ron Paul(I) REP 45,990 80.77%
Gerald D. Wall REP 2,448 4.30%
- elections.sos.s tate.tx.us/elchist148_state.htm
Ron Paul(I) REP 140,623 75.99%
Robert Pruett DEM 44,431 24.01%
- elections.s os.state.tx.us/elchist154_state.htm
#13. To: no gnu taxes (#11)
#14. To: ConservingFreedom (#12)
I'm sorry to bring you to reality, but here are the results from Paul's last congressional primary:
#15. To: buckeroo (#0)
Cruz's delegate wins could be merely symbolic, though, if Trump secures the 1,237 delegates needed win the party's presidential nomination.
#16. To: GrandIsland (#14)
Didn't the douche bag lose 3 presidential primaries?
#17. To: nolu chan (#15)
#18. To: GrandIsland, ConservingFreedom (#14)
(Edited)
lose 3 presidential primaries?
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#19. To: ConservingFreedom (#16)
But please continue braying for my amusement
#20. To: GrandIsland, ConservingFreedom (#14)
(Edited)
I'm sorry to bring you to reality
Of the 620 bills sponsored by Ron Paul during his long career in the House of Representatives, only four have ever made it to a vote on the House floor and only one of those became an actual law. An analysis by The Washington Post shows that Paul's success rate of 0.2 percent falls far below that of most legislators, as Paul has chosen to stand up for his personal crusades, rather that build coalitions for more popular, but less ambitious, proposals.
#21. To: ConservingFreedom (#17)
"Winning" is not the same as "winning the first vote."
#22. To: Gatlin (#20)
Of the 620 bills sponsored by Ron Paul during his long career in the House of Representatives
#23. To: nolu chan, GrandIsland, ConservingFreedom, Buckeroo, A K A Stone (#21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9JArvEJ64M
#24. To: GrandIsland (#19)
he will die before he wins presidency
#25. To: ConservingFreedom (#22)
(Edited)
#26. To: nolu chan (#21)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#27. To: ConservingFreedom (#24)
#28. To: GrandIsland (#27)
He ain't popular enough to win shit
#29. To: hondo68 (#26)
#30. To: GrandIsland (#19)
The same goes for that other politician that's followed by an asshole cult too, Commie Sanders.
#31. To: nolu chan (#30)
#32. To: GrandIsland (#27)
#33. To: Gatlin (#32)
ConservingFreedom defends as Ron Paul as aggressively as TooConservative.
#34. To: buckeroo (#33)
Ron Paul is out of the political equation
#35. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland (#32)
ConservingFreedom defends as [sic] Ron Paul as aggressively
#36. To: GrandIsland (#34)
staying quiet about commie "free shit" sanders and KILLary "bullshit" Clinton.
#37. To: GrandIsland, ConservingFreedom (#6)
Including that shithead Ron Paultard.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#38. To: ConservingFreedom, Deckard, original paultards, gatlin GrandIsland, hope 'n change (#35)
If anyone's "aggressive" about Paul it's the two of you.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#39. To: hondo68 (#38)
From way back at Liberty Post, they'd post up 20 anti Ron Paul articles on the sidebar, and then complain about "Paultards" hogging the site.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
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