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Title: Officer Loses It, Goes ‘Robocop’ and Breaks an Innocent Elderly Man’s Leg Over a Tomato
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Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/vi ... ocent-elderly-mans-leg-tomato/
Published: Apr 26, 2016
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2016-04-26 09:29:11 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 10834
Comments: 59
Atlanta, GA — An innocent Atlanta man spent multiple days handcuffed to a hospital bed with a broken leg and a severed artery after an Atlanta cop falsely accused him of stealing a tomato that he actually bought. Tyrone Carnegay spent then spent three days in jail before the charges were finally dropped. The interaction was all caught on a Walmart security camera. “I was chained to my bed in Grady. They said I assaulted him and obstructed him from doing his job,” Carnegay told the local news. The video proves that none of this was true. Carnegay explained to WSB-TV that he was walking out of the store after purchasing his groceries when an off-duty Atlanta cop, working security at the store, walked up to him without warning and began beating him. “He’s giving me a verbal command. As he’s grabbing me, he’s beating me at the same time. ‘Get on ground.’ Beating me at the same time,” Carnegay said. In the video, we can see Carnegay get struck by the raging cop at least seven times before he is unable to walk. “My leg started giving out,” Carnegay said. Carnegay didn’t resist, obstruct, or assault the officer; he merely tried to protect himself against the cop’s unnecessary baton blows. Carnegay said that the officer never asked for the receipt prior to unleashing his ‘robocop’ fury. However, after he laid on the ground in handcuffs, his leg broken in two places, and bleeding internally, the cop reached into his pocket and found the receipt — showing he paid for the tomato.“Somebody could have come up to him and said, ‘Excuse me sir, do you have (a) receipt for that tomato?’ and he would’ve shown him the receipt,” said attorney Craig Jones. “The officer went into Robocop mode and beat the crap out of him.” “He found the receipt and money, and stood there like he hadn’t done nothing,” Carnegay said. According to the lawsuit, filed over the incident which happened in October 2014, the Walmart manager told the officer Carnegay had stolen the tomato just before the beating. Named in the suit are Walmart, the manager, and the cop who doled out the beating. When contacted by WSB-TV, a representative from Walmart said they had not yet been served the lawsuit but said, “We take the matter seriously. We will review the allegations and respond appropriately with the court.” The Atlanta police department has yet to comment on the lawsuit. As for now, Carnegay walks with a limp thanks to the titanium rod in his leg.
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#19. To: misterwhite (#18)
The video shows no shoplifters attempting to leave the store.
Why aren't you questioning the motives of Deckard who posts anti-cop articles on a daily basis?
Just because he goes over your head doesn't make his comments over the top. You're nowhere near the top.
For Deckard, it's apparent that violence committed by cops is an important and sensitive issue that needs to be brought to the public eye, and that's okay. We all have things that are important to us. You call his articles "anti-cop", but he'd call it "anti-bad-cop". Your disagreement with him, if that's what it is, is simply what constitutes a bad cop. Apparently don't believe bad cops exist, that somehow, anyone who puts on a blue uniform is magically bestowed with the love of Jesus Christ for everyone for all time. By that logic, if we could just start handing out these uniforms to everyone, all crime would simply cease. Given the huge number of cops in the USA, it's inevitable that even with 99% of them being good people and only a small percentage of them being prone to violence and criminal behaviour, there's going to be an awful lot of reports of bad cops hurting innocent people and engaging in excessive violence. So Deckard will doubtless have no shortage of articles to post about those bad cops. If you want to balance the picture, then post stories of good cops, which incidentally Deckard has also done, albeit very rarely compared to the bad cop articles. If you want people to believe that you post honestly -- even if you don't -- then you are simply going to have to admit it when a cop has gone over the top. That you NEVER do that shows either that you are indeed a paid shill, or have some kind of fetish for the blue uniform, neither of which is of any value to the readers of this forum. Credibility is what gives you respect, and your cops-can-do-no-wrong attitude just guts yours completely.
So what will you do if I choose to point out errors and omissions in Deckard's rants instead?
So what will you do if I choose to point out errors and omissions in Deckard's rants instead? I dunno. Maybe read them. Maybe reply to them. Maybe neither. Try it and see.
Same as it ever was.
So this article is "anti-bad-cop"?
He'll call you a copsucker, a paid shill, and say that all you do is defend cops.
What we call a "low bar".
Was it marked "99 cents" or was it marked "Free"? I remember a number of years back, I was buying a jar of olives. I stuck in my jacket pocket out of convenience. I paid for it at the counter when I got there. All of a sudden, a manager and security guard stepped forward and told me to empty my pockets. I showed them there was nothing there, and what I had done. They sheepishly walked away. Why couldn't this have been handled the same way? The officer could have just asked if he had a receipt. Look, I agree the police get a bum rap a lot of times. But, I am getting the impression you think they are infallible. They are are recruited from the human race, you know. I saw what happened in the video. So will the civil jury. This alleged tomato shoplifter will be a millionaire. The manager will just blame it on Wal Mart policy. The officer will just say he was responding to the complaint. Both will be fired (if they haven't been already). This shoplifter will walk away with millions of dollars. Ain't America great. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
Who says it wasn't? There was no audio. It looked like the cop tried to stop the guy, and the guy gave him the "Whad I do? I dinn do nuffin'" line of bullshit. Things then escalated. You, on the other hand, cooperated and ended up simply walking away. That's the difference. Just because you know you didn't do anything wrong doesn't give you the license to act like an asshole. Act like one, get treated like one.
He's a sweetie. http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Georgia/Fulton-County- GA/Tyrone-Carnegay.7100832.html
I've never called anyone a copsucker. You are the only one here I've called a paid shill. I've even seen GrandIsland give an opinion that a cop should be charged with manslaughter. That in response to a legal statement of facts in a case. Not in response to any article, of course, but fair enough. I respect that and though he misrepresents me in stereotypical fashion, perhaps indicative of his past profession, I still respect him for at least giving his honest opinion and at least acknowledging that cops can make mistakes sometimes. But I don't respect you at all.
http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Georgia/Fulton-County- GA/Tyrone-Carnegay.7100832.html You've already convicted him, eh Roscoe? All are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Published mugshots and/or arrest records are previously published public records of: an arrest, an indictment, a registration, the deprivation of liberty or a detention. The mugshots and/or arrest records published on Mugshots.com are in NO way an indication of guilt and they are NOT evidence that an actual crime has been committed. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much So this article is "anti-bad-cop"? Nah...this is a sterling example of how every cop should act. At least in misterwhite Bizarro World. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much The irony is thick.
He just went up in my estimation.
Now you're just trying to get on my good side.
I'm looking at the same video you are, and I just don't see it that way. I don't think the jury will either. I would say the cop, the manager and Wal mart are fucked. I'll have to just leave it at that. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
It took him a while to find his slip and fall lawyer.
If we had "loser pays" (with the lawyer responsible for half the cost if they lose) he'd still be looking.
That does rise to the level of "PC" for a lawful arrest on a shoplifting or larceny call. Once the officer has "PC" to arrest, and the arrestee doesn't comply, it's resisting. We hold court in front of the judge... not at the arrest site or LF forum. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Yep. It turns out the manager made a mistake -- but how was the cop to know that? And if it was an honest mistake by the manager, she can't be held liable. Let's keep in mind, the ONLY reason the situation escalated was the action of the shopper. Now if it's that easy to win millions in a settlement, then I'm on my way to Walmart right now.
Let me tell you. If this guy went into a Wal mart, legally purchased one tomato, had a receipt for it, and was able to goad the store manager and security personnel into assaulting him, I guess i would consider that to be quite impressive. Remember, this guy is not being charged with ANY crime. I've seen the videotape many times. He did not display any aggression. Do you really believe the authorities acted with any measure of common sense over a 99 cent tomato? Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
His slip and fall lawyer isn't defending him from criminal charges.
Not after they dropped the charges, no. But, for sake of argument, suppose he HAD stolen the 99 cent tomato. What then? You OK with what happened if he had stolen merchandise? Should Walmart have a new policy: "If it's under a dollar it's yours?"
Aggression? No one's claimed he was aggressive. The cop isn't claiming self- defense. Where do you come up with this "He did not display any aggression"?
The point is the guy did nothing wrong. Nothing. And the video clearly shows the off duty rent-a-cop charging towards him and supposedly yelling "get on the floor." The guy looks stunned. He doesn't know what is going on. I see him moving out his arms in shrugs of disbelief, not in any kind of aggression. Maybe you think he should have dropped to the floor at the mere command of anybody in uniform. Maybe you think he should have licked the officer's boots while he was down there. So in the attempt to prevent a theft of a 99 cent tomato, Wal mart will end up paying 5 million dollars in damages. That's sound business! Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
No. Right now he's trying to defend the 33% he's going to take from the settlement.
You know that NOW. No one knew that at the time. Geez Louise. "And the video clearly shows the off duty rent-a-cop charging towards him and supposedly yelling "get on the floor." And the video clearly shows the store manager right there, pointing at the guy, and supposedly saying he stole something. He must have heard that. The cop did. He must have known what was going on. But he knew he was innocent so he wasn't going to listen to anyone because he gots rights. Has he complied the whole matter would have been settled, an apology issued, and everyone goes their separate ways. So, who's fault was it that it didn't end up that way?
You really think it is appropriate to charge a non-threatening person who MIGHT be shoplifting a small item telling him the to hit the floor? I have NEVER seen shoplifting situations handled this way. Do you really think stores teach security personnel to handle shoplifting suspicions in this manner? What would have been appropriate is for the rent-a-cop to ask the man, "sir, the manager thinks you might not have paid for your item. Could you show me a receipt?" He shows receipt and leaves a little perturbed and all is well. A jury will see this at least as badly as i see it. Actually, it will probably never go to a jury as Wal Mart will settle for a few million dollars to sweep the matter under the rug. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
I'd say it's appropriate to try to stop a shoplifter. Which is what he did. The shoplifter then escalated the situation, not the cop.
And maybe you think people should be allowed to piss all over authority without consequences? Well you go right ahead. Just don't come crying to me when they piss back.
By acting like you are conducting a felony arrest of a dangerous suspect? And you should say falsely accused suspected shoplifter. Maybe you think police should conduct all traffic stops by pulling their guns and telling the speeder to hit the ground and leave them lying there while they run their driver information. After all, the speeder has actually broken a law, and traffic stops are notoriously dangerous. It's laughable that you can watch the same video I did and think the shopper escalated the matter. He was a completely innocent man strolling out of a Wal Mart and got the shit beat out of him. Trust me, if there was ANYTHING, ANYTHING AT ALL, the police could have taken this man to court with, they would have. Anyway, I'm now done with this, as it seems there is nothing to be gained by further discussion. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
Police: Shoplifter kills Wal- Mart security employee, then self
When the shoplifter of a 99 cent tomato refuses to cooperate, then the security guard has got to be wondering, "What have we here?" And act accordingly. Why do you think Walmart has a uniformed security guard? To hold the door open for you? He's there to prevent theft. If he stops you, that means he thinks you stole something, right? Is there any other reason why he would stop you? So stop with your bullshit about the shopper not knowing what was going on. He knew. Now you or I would whip out the receipt and be done with it. But this guy knew he was innocent and decided to play the victim. His choice. A bad one, as it turned out.
Actually not (even in your view of events). He will be a millionaire, and the rent-a-cop and manager will be ruined. So who really made the bad decisions? I'm done. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
By the way, you may be surprised. Paid trolling IS an active profession. It does exist. Many countries engage in it, just as there is at least one active business that allows people to rent crowds to show up at events, political or otherwise. It's not that people are hired to post client-preferred views on individual forums. Certainly they would be hired to post on a large list of forums, and that would be a list that would grow and shrink over time. It is a real business.
Maybe. But I've seen no proof it actually occurs. There are probably hundreds of thousands of forums around. I would doubt that trollng on any but the most active would get paid. And they would be heavily moderated making it very hard with getting away with too much trolling. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
Reviewing the video, the guard was attempting to stop the shoplifter from leaving the store.
#20. To: Pinguinite (#17)
"If he's NOT paid to post here, then his over the top antics ..."
#21. To: Pinguinite (#17)
Look, I'm trying to give MW the benefit of a doubt! If he's NOT paid to post here, then his over the top antics
#22. To: misterwhite, Deckard (#20)
Why aren't you questioning the motives of Deckard who posts anti-cop articles on a daily basis?
#23. To: Pinguinite (#22)
If you want to balance the picture, then post stories of good cops
#24. To: Roscoe (#23)
#25. To: Pinguinite (#24)
Try it and see.
#26. To: Pinguinite (#22)
"You call his articles "anti-cop", but he'd call it "anti-bad-cop".
#27. To: Roscoe, Pinguinite (#23)
"So what will you do if I choose to point out errors and omissions in Deckard's rants instead?"
#28. To: Roscoe (#21)
"You're nowhere near the top."
#29. To: misterwhite (#16)
"I mean, come on, it's a frickin 99 cent tomato."
#30. To: no gnu taxes (#29)
"Why couldn't this have been handled the same way? The officer could have just asked if he had a receipt."
#31. To: misterwhite (#30)
#32. To: misterwhite, GrandIsland (#27)
He'll call you a copsucker, a paid shill, and say that all you do is defend cops.
#33. To: Roscoe (#31)
He's a sweetie.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
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#34. To: misterwhite, Pinguinite (#26)
"You call his articles "anti-cop", but he'd call it "anti-bad-cop".
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#35. To: Deckard (#33)
You've already convicted him, eh Roscoe?
#36. To: Pinguinite (#32)
But I don't respect you at all.
#37. To: Deckard (#34)
"Nah...this is a sterling example of how every cop should act."
#38. To: misterwhite (#30)
It looked like the cop tried to stop the guy, and the guy gave him the "Whad I do? I dinn do nuffin'" line of bullshit. Things then escalated.
#39. To: no gnu taxes (#38)
#40. To: Roscoe (#39)
"It took him a while to find his slip and fall lawyer."
#41. To: misterwhite (#4)
Why would he? The manager was right there, pointing at the guy, saying he stole merchandise.
#42. To: GrandIsland (#41)
"That does rise to the level of "PC" for a lawful arrest on a shoplifting or larceny call."
#43. To: GrandIsland (#41)
#44. To: Roscoe (#39)
It took him a while to find his slip and fall lawyer.
#45. To: no gnu taxes (#44)
Remember, this guy is not being charged with ANY crime.
#46. To: no gnu taxes (#44)
"Remember, this guy is not being charged with ANY crime."
#47. To: no gnu taxes (#44)
"He did not display any aggression."
#48. To: misterwhite (#46)
#49. To: Roscoe (#45)
"His slip and fall lawyer isn't defending him from criminal charges."
#50. To: no gnu taxes (#48)
"The point is the guy did nothing wrong."
#51. To: misterwhite (#50)
#52. To: no gnu taxes (#51)
"You really think it is appropriate to charge a non-threatening person who MIGHT be shoplifting a small item telling him the to hit the floor?"
#53. To: no gnu taxes (#48)
"Maybe you think he should have licked the officer's boots while he was down there."
#54. To: misterwhite (#52)
I'd say it's appropriate to try to stop a shoplifter.
#55. To: no gnu taxes (#54)
#56. To: no gnu taxes (#54)
(Edited)
"By acting like you are conducting a felony arrest of a da dangerous suspect?"
#57. To: misterwhite (#56)
His choice. A bad one, as it turned out.
#58. To: no gnu taxes (#13)
Nobody is being paid to come on a forum that probably no more than 100 people even know exists to post anything.
#59. To: Pinguinite (#58)
Paid trolling IS an active profession.
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