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Title: They have lied about ‘white privilege and all the ‘supposed’ terrible things whites have done…um…..like build civilizations.
Source: incogman.net
URL Source: http://incogman.net/2010/06/summert ... o-in-the-water/comment-page-6/
Published: Apr 14, 2016
Author: canac123
Post Date: 2016-04-14 20:30:34 by BorisY
Keywords: pimp daddy socialism overlords, pimp daddy socialism overlords, pimp daddy socialism overlords
Views: 12339
Comments: 73

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"There is a giant plan in the works and it began the day Obama took his lying oath of office. The elaborate plan is working on many levels. It is in the schools, the colleges, and in Washington d.c. and other places where leftists are present. Obama is a fake president and a traitor. He is anti-white. The schools and television have been painting whites as everything but a normal human being for years. They have lied about ‘white privilege and all the ‘supposed’ terrible things whites have done…um…..like build civilizations. Now they have young whites believing ill of themselves and they think they have the police on the run too. They have turned the military into a small group of bell ringers and do-gooders. They have allowed more sub-humans into the country than ever before to cause chaos and voting scandal. They are making the money worthless and the jobs go away. They are almost on track with the complete destruction of America. The mainstream media has pushed for our destruction for years and now they can almost taste a Socialist style America……AND THEN………a man like Trump appears.. He has thrown a wrench in their plans and stopped their time-table. Now…they all depend on the news media to destroy Trump and that is what they have been trying to do. If you are voting for Trump…do not be discouraged. He is not out yet. Keep voting and campaigning. The Media and the establishment hate him too much for you to give up. Remember…..if the Media hates him then it is a sign that he is the one to vote for. Stop the socialist juggernaut…vote Trump."

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#14. To: nativist nationalist (#13)

Almost makes you wonder why they have been targets in every culture they have lived in for the last couple of thousand years,huh?

If they were pulling the same crap in Europe that they've pulled over here it kind of explains certain aspects of European history a little better.

Well,they were,but it was not as one-sided as most people may think. Jews became bankers because the Vatican ruled it out for Christians,and European Royalty ruled out certain jobs and occupations for Jews. They could become tradesmen,but most times they needed a Gentile front man from the nobility in order to buy property. Which means the property was bought using Jewish money,but titled to the Gentile nobleman. Guess what usually happened.

One case of Jews lending money to Gentile Royalty that highlights what sometimes happened was the current King of England had to borrow money to equip a army to invade France once again because his coffers were a little low. Which was one reason WHY he needed to invade France.

Anyhow,the report I read had the King borrowing money from a Jewish banker that could manage to arrange the loan with other Jewish bankers in other countries,and the deal would be he would be paid back with interest from the looted treasuries of France,and then he and his family would be put on a boat and sent to mainland Europe along with the money. This was a known condition of the deal,and Jewish witnesses had to see the banker and his family setting sail or the King would have never been able to ever borrow any money again.

What ended up happening was the ship sailed around until low tide when a sand bar in the English Channel was dry,and then they put the Jewish banker and his family in a row boat,and left them stranded on the sand bar until the tide came in and drowned them. The chests with the gold came back to England,and were landed and unloaded secretly.

So it is really more of a "which came first,the chicken or the egg" thing when it comes to devious dealings in Olde Europe. Let's face it,most of the Royalty of Europe were scum squared and the Jews had no choice but to do business with them. What happened to people in medieval Europe that said "No!" to Kings?

So the Jewish bankers made the loans to keep from being murdered,and then if the King or the other Royal didn't pay it back with interest as agreed,the bankers had to get their money back by squeezing it out of the Gentile merchant classes.

Also,the Jews were pretty much forced to live in Jewish ghettos by Royalty,and then the common people like the Gentile Merchants resented them for being "stand offish and sticking with their kind". There really wasn't any way possible for a Jew to win back then. They just had to dance between the notes and hope for the best while being ready to run for their lives at any moment. Jews have good historical reasons for being paranoid and suspicious of their fellow man.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-15   21:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#9)

because it gives the "favored class" huge advantages

Agreed, I am against affirmative action because it mandates a decent into mediocracy. Affirmative action does not mean the most skilled or able get the jobs, it can actually mean there are those employed who are not fit for the role. It is in fact an attempt to solve social problems brought about by incorrect action whether that be migration, racial inequality, physical disadvantage.

What is truely needed is not placing individuals by quota whether that be employment or representation but addressing the root causes of disadvantage

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-15   23:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: paraclete (#15)

What is truely needed is not placing individuals by quota whether that be employment or representation but addressing the root causes of disadvantage

What if the root cause of the problem is simple genetically based stupidity. Would you still address it?

rlk  posted on  2016-04-16   2:07:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: rlk, paraclete, sneakypete (#16)

What if the root cause of the problem is simple genetically based stupidity. Would you still address it?

If you believe in IQ tests, overwhelming majority in EVERY race is pretty dumb.

Not every Englishman is like Isaac Newton.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-16   3:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: rlk, paraclete, Willie Green, sneakypete, Vicomte13, TooConservative (#17)

For your amusement and edification:

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-16   4:22:09 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A Pole (#18)

familair with statistics but what does this imply?

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-16   4:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A Pole (#17)

average intelligence isn't very average

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-16   4:49:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: paraclete (#19)

familair with statistics but what does this imply?

Is it an IQ test question?

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-16   4:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A Pole (#17)

If you believe in IQ tests, overwhelming majority in EVERY race is pretty dumb.

You just keep believing that if it makes you feel better about yourself,bubba.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-16   6:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A Pole (#21)

No, are you implying all of these groups have equal IQ, I think that boat sailed a long time ago

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-16   6:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sneakypete (#22)

If you believe in IQ tests, overwhelming majority in EVERY race is pretty dumb.

You just keep believing that if it makes you feel better about yourself,bubba.

Believing in what? In IQ tests, or that overwhelming majority in EVERY race is pretty dumb?

Being smart starts with with "gathers, infers own information", and key word is "starts". You need to be several points to the right to go beyond "starting" threshold. All others "know" what they are being told. Look at the graph below:

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-16   7:17:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: paraclete (#23)

No, are you implying all of these groups have equal IQ, I think that boat sailed a long time ago

I don't imply that at all. What I say is that difference between average white (or black) and Isaac Newton is huge.

Civilization is created by a small minority. And it takes many centuries before followers can absorb it. Much longer time than average IQ needs to shift to the right (or left).

The distribution curve indicates what was the biological optimum to leave more descendents in a given environment. Eskimo and head hunters had to have very high IQ (ability to solve puzzles) to pass their genes on. The race can shift quite fast as every breeder of dog's races can tell you. In is enough for a few generations for the smart whites to have fewer children, and slow ones to have more for the balance to change.

Among Jews, ability to solve fine points of Talmud was at premium, while for the African blacks the stamina, socializing skills and ability to have several women was at premium (and being liable to be sold by its own tribe to America). It is dynamic as natural selection (reproduction differential) never stops.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-16   7:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A Pole (#24)

Believing in what? In IQ tests, or that overwhelming majority in EVERY race is pretty dumb?

That the overwhelming majority in EVERY race is pretty dumb. Just because someone may not be smart enough to become a physicist,that doesn't mean they are dumb. Nor does having an IQ over 140 or so mean you know everything there is to know.

I do agree with your premise that some groups,like the Jews, tend to have higher IQ's than other groups due to cultural reasons,such as a cultural tendency to value intelligence over brawn and to even look for intelligence in mates. Slow-witted people in those groups are less likely to add to that groups DNA pool due to natural selection.

What I don't see on your charts are Asians,and am wondering why. No,I am NOT accusing you of racism or even implying it. I'm just curious why such a huge chuck of the world population isn't even mentioned.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-16   9:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A Pole (#25)

Eskimo and head hunters had to have very high IQ (ability to solve puzzles) to pass their genes on.

I disagree,and in fact think they have to be little more than mindless drones to live in such primitive societies for hundreds,or even thousands,of years and still be stuck on "backwards". There has obviously been a lot of inbreeding going on between the Eskimos for all this time,and even though the gene pool has been quite a bit deeper for headhunters,you have to breed with other to increase your tribal intelligence,not eat them.

The term that comes to mind for both groups is "stuck on stupid".

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-16   9:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#26)

What I don't see on your charts are Asians,and am wondering why. No,I am NOT accusing you of racism or even implying it. I'm just curious why such a huge chuck of the world population isn't even mentioned.

Perhaps because we cannot write about everything?

Which Asians do you have in mind? Persians, Chinese, Hindu or perhaps Mongols?

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-16   9:08:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: sneakypete (#27) (Edited)

I disagree,and in fact think they have to be little more than mindless drones to live in such primitive societies for hundreds,or even thousands,of years and still be stuck on "backwards".

Getting food in two months for the whole year and making tools without metals or wood is quite hard.

Yes, did not develop agriculture or banking industry or even universities. I wonder why, low IQ? :)

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-16   9:11:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#14)

lso,the Jews were pretty much forced to live in Jewish ghettos by Royalty,and then the common people like the Gentile Merchants resented them for being "stand offish and sticking with their kind". There really wasn't any way possible for a Jew to win back then. They just had to dance between the notes and hope for the best while being ready to run for their lives at any moment. Jews have good historical reasons for being paranoid and suspicious of their fellow man.

And (following your beliefs) given that God is just a superstition anyway, the Jewish woes were self-inflicted, because all they had to do was convert from one religion that was a myth to another that is also a myth, and then they would be people like everybody else.

Of course, then they would lose their banking monopoly. What to do...what to do...?

They chose to be rich and imperiled rather than simply join the masses. They stood aloof, and thus were despised by those "beneath" them, and got rich on the special banking privilege, but were periodically fleeced by those above them.

In the English banking case, the better answer would have been to simply give to the King and convert, in exchange for a lordship somewhere. There would have been rejoicing throughout the land, the King's financial problems would have been solved without resort to larceny, and the ex- Jews now-gentry would have had land that was theirs, and could have made money the usual way.

If religion isn't real, to hold out against the ruling class's religion is stupid. Convert to the religion that gives you the best deal.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-16   9:42:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#26)

What I don't see on your charts are Asians,and am wondering why

I find it curious his chart compares blacks and whites, as if black given the centuries of education and opportunity won't conform

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-16   10:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Vicomte13 (#30)

Convert to the religion that gives you the best deal.

Under that deal we wouldn't convert to catholicism, would we, a group that comprises many of the poor of the world, or to islam for similiar reasons

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-16   10:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: paraclete, A Pole (#19)

familair with statistics but what does this imply?


Half of the people you'll ever meet are below average...
but fortunately, the other half are all above average...
It all balances out in the long run!

Willie Green  posted on  2016-04-16   10:45:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: paraclete (#31)

It is not my chart, it is Google's chart :)

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-16   10:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A Pole (#18)

without an ordinate and abcissa the graph is meaningless.

rlk  posted on  2016-04-16   13:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: rlk (#35)

without an ordinate and abcissa the graph is meaningless.

You are grasping at straws.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-16   15:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A Pole (#28)

Which Asians do you have in mind? Persians, Chinese, Hindu or perhaps Mongols?

The Asian ones,not the Indo-European ones.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-16   15:54:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A Pole (#29)

Getting food in two months for the whole year and making tools without metals or wood is quite hard.

Not really. They had done it for thousands of years before the white man showed up to build houses and boats for them,and to feed them in hard times.

es, did not develop agriculture or banking industry or even universities. I wonder why, low IQ? :)

Thousands of years of inbreeding,and stuck on stupid. Yeah,there are exceptions,but damn few.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

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Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-16   15:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Vicomte13 (#30)

And (following your beliefs) given that God is just a superstition anyway, the Jewish woes were self-inflicted, because all they had to do was convert from one religion that was a myth to another that is also a myth, and then they would be people like everybody else.

Many did,especially in Spain.

Or at least pretended to convert.

They chose to be rich and imperiled rather than simply join the masses. They stood aloof, and thus were despised by those "beneath" them, and got rich on the special banking privilege, but were periodically fleeced by those above them.

There were no innocents in medieval times,least of all within the Evil Empire known as the Catholic Church.

In the English banking case, the better answer would have been to simply give to the King and convert, in exchange for a lordship somewhere.

I am not so sure the English gave them that option. I know the Spanish did. I suspect most of the Jews that managed to convert to the CC,or later,the Church of England got the opportunity because one of the Jewish females married a English noble,and he pulled the strings to get her family converted. Just guessing on this one,though. For all I know the English accepted anybody that wanted to convert,or accepted no one at all.

Convert to the religion that gives you the best deal.

The way the Catholics and the Muslims did it,was "convert or die". You should be sooooo proud!

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Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-16   16:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: paraclete (#31)

I find it curious his chart compares blacks and whites, as if black given the centuries of education and opportunity won't conform

Well,for the most part,they still haven't. Africa would still be starving and having tribal warefare even today if the hated white man didn't keep feeding them and treating their illnesses.

Yes,there are exceptions,but not many when considering the total number.

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ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-16   16:05:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Willie Green (#33)

Half of the people you'll ever meet are below average... but fortunately, the other half are all above average...

We would all like to think that wouldn't have to be explained,wouldn't we?

And we would still be wrong.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-16   16:06:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: sneakypete (#37)

Which Asians do you have in mind? Persians, Chinese, Hindu or perhaps Mongols?

The Asian ones,not the Indo-European ones.

What about Hungarians and Finns? They are not Indo-Europeans. Turks or Semites are neither.

Your pigment deprived ancestors lived in dugouts and whacked one another in berserk fury when East (like Chinese) and West Asians (Persians or Phoenicians) had high civilizations. Was the race a factor? Did you mutate?

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-16   16:34:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: sneakypete (#38)

If the wealth is a measure of intelligence, how rich are you?

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-16   16:38:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: A Pole (#42)

What about Hungarians and Finns? They are not Indo-Europeans. Turks or Semites are neither.

Last time I checked,they are Europeans.

Your pigment deprived ancestors lived in dugouts and whacked one another in berserk fury when East (like Chinese) and West Asians (Persians or Phoenicians) had high civilizations.

Who were my ancestors,dummy?

Was the race a factor?

Genetics were and always will be a factor.

Did you mutate?

I know you are Polish,but there is no need for you to promote the false stereotype. Learning big words doesn't mean you understand them.

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Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-16   17:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A Pole (#43)

If the wealth is a measure of intelligence, how rich are you?

I would try to explain this to you,but you wouldn't understand.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

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Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-16   17:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: sneakypete (#40)

Africa would still be starving and having tribal warefare even today if the hated white man didn't keep feeding them and treating their illnesses.

Yes,there are exceptions,but not many when considering the total number.

Spoken like a true bigot, only a few centuries ago the white race was in the same position fighting endless wars and starving and yet the african have had liberty for a few decades and you demand they operate at your standard

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-16   19:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: paraclete (#46)

Spoken like a true bigot, only a few centuries ago the white race was in the same position fighting endless wars and starving and yet the african have had liberty for a few decades and you demand they operate at your standard

BullBarack!Independent African Kingdoms existed for thousands of years before the white man ever moved there and semi-civilized the place,and the majority of Africans are no better off OR more advanced now than they were then. The biggest difference is for the most part you aren't eating each other even though raping babies to cure VD is still a popular passtime.

Africa became more civilized the few hundred years the white man was dominant there than they were all the thousands of years before the white man came,and all you have done since the white man left was lose ground. And no amount of playing the race card can change that.

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Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-16   19:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A Pole (#36) (Edited)

without an ordinate and abcissa the graph is meaningless.

You are grasping at straws.

Criticizing a graph that has no labels at its borders to indicate what, and how much of what, it represents is grasping at straws?

rlk  posted on  2016-04-17   0:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: paraclete (#32)

Under that deal we wouldn't convert to catholicism, would we, a group that comprises many of the poor of the world, or to islam for similiar reasons

If you were a Jew in England in 1200, Catholicism was the only choice on offer.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-17   7:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Vicomte13 (#49)

There was another choice, what you have said makes catholicism no different to Islam

While we speak of converting the jews, the inquisition was to examine the jews who were siad to have been converted, however, many others were caught in the net. The Catholic Church was quilty of genocide in France and other places and don't tell me that was the acts of individuals

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-17   10:13:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: paraclete (#50)

what you have said makes catholicism no different to Islam

Content of your beliefs matter. For example if you persecuting for Indian religious practices like burning widows, it is quite different from persecuting people for wearing crosses.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-17   11:01:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A Pole (#51)

if you persecuting for Indian religious practices like burning widows, it is quite different from persecuting people for wearing crosses.

But not much different to burning people at the stake for "heresy" and "witchcraft". Yes the content of your beliefs does matter particularly if they are man made. Jesus never asked you to believe in any one but him. he didn't ask you to venerate his mother or his companions or other believers, nor did he ask you to conquer in his name

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-17   17:51:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: paraclete (#50)

There was another choice, what you have said makes catholicism no different to Islam

If neither Catholicism nor Islam nor Judaism are true, because there is no God at all, then converting to join the dominant religion so as to not be killed, and so as to be able to join the mainstream of society, is obviously smart.

It was really quite stupid to insist publicly upon being a Communist in 1950s America. For the underlying philosophy itself was unworkable and untrue AND you got persecuted for it.

The only reason to cling to a hated religion and suffer persecution for it is if there really IS your God behind it, and he really WILL eventually reward you for your longsuffering patience.

Otherwise you're just like some guy who refuses to pay taxes, drive the speed limit or stop pissing in public: you're just going to get beaten up and jailed by the police a lot, because you won't obey the social laws.

There is no admirable principle in holding out in a cranky non-adherence to a set of beliefs that are not based on anything other than cussed stubbornness.

Judaism, Christianity and Islam only make sense if they're actually TRUE. Otherwise they're a set of weird, arbitrary and rather bad old laws. And if they're all true, then it makes sense to follow the local one and avoid trouble. Only if one is true, the others are false, and God cares, does it become worth it to put up with persecution and death to cling to a religion that is despised by the locals.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-18   6:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: paraclete (#50)

The Catholic Church was quilty of genocide in France and other places and don't tell me that was the acts of individuals

So, what should be done with the Catholic Church of TODAY because of the sins of Catholics 1000 years ago?

What should be done with the Christian of today for his sins of 30 years ago?

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-18   6:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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