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Title: Former CO GOP Chair: Message We're Sending Is "Your Vote Doesn't Matter And Your Voice Doesn't Count"
Source:
Real Clear Politics
URL Source: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi ... d_your_voice_doesnt_count.html
Published: Apr 11, 2016
Author: Ian Swartz
Post Date: 2016-04-11 17:47:41 by Orthodoxa
Keywords: Colorado, GOP, corruption
Views: 1902
Comments: 21
Former Colorado state Republican party chairman Ryan Call talked to Laura Ingraham today to explain the delegation-selection process works and how it "cuts out any semblance of democracy or the popular will." Call said the statewide convention that chooses the delegates reinforces all the worst stereotypes of the party. "The very time we should be opening up our doors and being more open and transparent, and welcoming people into our Party, we’ve essentially made the decision to close it off and make it more cumbersome and more difficult. And, to prevent the ability of people to have their voice heard in this process. You’re reinforcing all of the very worst stereotypes about the Party and I, frankly, am very concerned about the way voters are going to feel," Call told Ingraham. Transcript, via Laura Ingraham Show: Ingraham: The August 25th announcement that they would no longer do the presidential preference poll at their caucus, my spidey-senses went up when that happened. Was I correct to, at the time, note that this was a sign that they were not going to be bound by the people of Colorado selecting Trump. If that was a risk, they wanted to cut that off at the pass in August. Am I correct in stating that? Call: That’s exactly right. While the caucus votes we’ve held in previous elections in 2008 and 2012 were always straw polls, they didn’t bind or allocate the delegations. They at least were a snapshot into where voter sentiment is in the state of Colorado, and the decision by the state Republican Party to cancel that vote taken in connection with the caucus really did cut out any semblance of democracy or the popular will in connection with the delegate election event. It became an entire party insiders game with getting delegates to go to county assemblies in the state convention. While Colorado has over a million registered Republican voters, the only votes that really counted were that of the 3,900 delegates that gathered down in Colorado Springs. Poster Comment: More of the interview transcript is at the link. This open and in-your-face corruption is sickening.
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#4. To: Orthodoxa (#0)
...will shortly be removed as a delegate to the Republican national convention in Cleveland for badmouthing the state party on national media. These state parties are very tight little clubs. But the old system which he recalls so fondly was just as undemocratic fundamentally. If they didn't bind the delegates, then they were meaningless and no better than Colorado's current system. If they want bound delegates running for delegate slots for particular candidates, then they can do that. Other states do. I think the CO GOP is still struggling to recover from the Tancredo disaster. They did lose major party status under Colorado law for an entire election cycle. I would guess that has a lot to do with them making Colorado's delegate selection the way it is. And Colorado is not alone in this. At least 3 island territories and Wyoming and North Dakota hold no popular vote at all to bind delegates to particular candidates. And other states have some bound delegates (usually by congressional district) and some who are at-large and unbound. In New York as an example, only a dozen or so get assigned at-large and the rest are 3-delegates-per-CD, at least in my understanding. And I think that all the states and territories have 3 unbound delegates: the state chairman, the national committeeman and the national committeewoman. Which amounts to 168 delegates.
It was Democratic in that the people voted. Sure, if the people voted 80% for Trump, all the delegates could vote for Cruz. But I think the party would then have some explaining to do.
It was a ridiculous straw poll. This talk is just a bunch of sore-loser Trump people trying to attack any state that doesn't vote for him, attack any candidate who is beating him. And Trump and his fanbois do this every time he loses. Every. Time.
I'm sure that you will be posting much of the same if Cruz gets into the White House and starts implementing his wife's North American Union plan without having any input from those pesky voters as well.
It's not just his wife's plan. It's also his. You marry someone who is philosophically compatable with you, not an antagonistic irritant. What they have is a unifying mission and vision between them. They are both entranced passengers on the same ship.
You are obviously not French! No, no. You marry the most beautiful woman you can get to marry you, and then you hold on for a wild and often times unpleasant ride.
#20. To: Vicomte13 (#18)
You are right. I m not. I am not compatable with French women. I find them shallow.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestFormer Colorado state Republican party chairman Ryan Call...
Call: That’s exactly right. While the caucus votes we’ve held in previous elections in 2008 and 2012 were always straw polls, they didn’t bind or allocate the delegations. They at least were a snapshot into where voter sentiment is in the state of Colorado, and the decision by the state Republican Party to cancel that vote taken in connection with the caucus really did cut out any semblance of democracy or the popular will in connection with the delegate election event. It became an entire party insiders game with getting delegates to go to county assemblies in the state convention. While Colorado has over a million registered Republican voters, the only votes that really counted were that of the 3,900 delegates that gathered down in Colorado Springs.
#5. To: TooConservative (#4)
"But the old system which he recalls so fondly was just as undemocratic fundamentally."
#8. To: misterwhite (#5)
Sure, if the people voted 80% for Trump, all the delegates could vote for Cruz. But I think the party would then have some explaining to do.
#9. To: TooConservative (#8)
#17. To: Orthodoxa (#9)
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I'm sure that you will be posting much of the same if Cruz gets into the White House and starts implementing his wife's North American Union plan without having any input from those pesky voters as well.
#18. To: rlk (#17)
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You marry someone who is philosophically compatable with you, not an antagonistic irritant.
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