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Title: John Kasich: The Candidate Who Wouldn’t Leave
Source: NRO
URL Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/artic ... an-candidate-who-wouldnt-leave
Published: Apr 6, 2016
Author: Jonah Goldberg
Post Date: 2016-04-06 20:56:03 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 8504
Comments: 85

There was an old Saturday Night Live fake movie trailer narrated by horror-movie veteran Christopher Lee. John Belushi played a houseguest who couldn’t take a hint from a couple who just wanted to go to bed. The husband tells Belushi, “Look, I don’t want to be rude, but my wife is Very tired!” Belushi responds by picking up the TV Guide and saying dismissively, “Yeah. . . . Hey, there’s a good movie on tonight! I think I’ll call up some friends and watch it over here!”

Then came Lee’s creepy voiceover: “It came without warning! They were just being Polite! They didn’t realize that they’d be stuck with . . . The Thing That Wouldn’t Leave”!

John Kasich is this election season’s The Thing That Wouldn’t Leave.

After investing everything in New Hampshire, Kasich came in second, doing worse than Jon Huntsman had in his race-ending performance in 2012. Kasich’s response? He didn’t just declare victory, he proclaimed, “Tonight, the light overcame the darkness.”

Since then, Kasich has lost some 30 contests and won one — in his home state of Ohio. But still, he just won’t go.

It’s not just that Kasich can’t take a hint, it’s that he appears to be living in a kind of fantasy world, largely defined by three myths or delusions.

The first is the most endearing. Kasich has the best résumé of the remaining candidates. Heck, he arguably had the best résumé of the entire 2016 field, if by “best” you mean the longest and deepest government experience. He’s not delusional about that.

What he is confused about is the idea that a lot of people care that he was, say, the chairman of the House Budget Committee two decades ago. According to legend, a supporter once shouted at Adlai Stevenson, “Governor Stevenson, all thinking people are for you!” Stevenson shot back, “That’s not enough. I need a majority!” Even if Kasich is right that his résumé makes him the best qualified to be president — a debatable proposition — the simple fact is that after nearly three dozen contests, relatively few voters agree with him.

Ah, but what about the delegates? If it’s a contested convention and neither Donald Trump nor Ted Cruz has enough delegates to lock up the nomination, won’t they turn to Kasich?

Not necessarily. But don’t tell that to the Ohio governor, who goes from interview to interview insisting that he’d be the natural choice for the convention. Why would he be? Well, that answer varies.

Kasich’s most frequently stated reason is that delegates will choose him because he beats Hillary Clinton in the polls. And it’s true that Kasich does marginally better than Cruz in hypothetical matchups against Clinton — and a lot better than Trump.

Left unanswered is why the delegates — many of them loyal to Trump and Cruz — would gamely back The Thing That Wouldn’t Leave. After the second or third round of voting, delegates are free to cast their ballots for whomever they want. There’s little evidence that they’d want Kasich, and they’d be under no obligation to vote for him over, say, Paul Ryan or Marco Rubio — or, for that matter, Rush Limbaugh or Shaquille O’Neal. Indeed, for many delegates, it would seem either unfair or downright crazy to skip over bigger vote-getters and back Kasich just because he won his home state of Ohio.

Of course, what that leaves out is the fact that Kasich is running as a hopeful, positive, uplifting champion of light over darkness. That brings us to yet another Kasich delusion, and this one is shared by many of his backers as well. Call it the myth of Kasich the hugger.

In South Carolina, a college student asked the Ohio governor for one of his supposedly famous hugs. It wasn’t until later that we learned the huggee worked for the hugger’s super PAC. More to the point, Kasich is simply not the touchy-feely guy he’s pretending to be or that he perhaps thinks he is.

The man is famously irascible, pugnacious, and sanctimonious. He’s prone to defending his policies, such as his expansion of Medicaid under Obamacare in Ohio, by insinuating that he cares more about his eternal soul than his critics. A lot of people talk about how unlikeable Cruz is. Well, I’ve met both men, and I’d much rather have a beer with Cruz.

Maybe Kasich’s denial stems from the fact that he has never lost a race and can’t contemplate failing this time. I really have no idea. All I know is that it’s time for him to go.

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#1. To: TooConservative (#0)

After Bernie, he's my man. Mailman's son and all.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-04-06   21:00:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Fred Mertz (#1) (Edited)

After Bernie, he's my man.

Fred, quick, edit your post or you will be shunned and/or banished once again.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-06   21:09:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: buckeroo (#2)

We need to buy Pebbles a one-way ticket to Cleveland in mid-July. He'll join the Trump riots.

My last post of the day.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-04-06   21:25:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Fred Mertz (#3)

I didn't intend to put a damper on your post quotas. Stone did that .. to ya, did he?

Let the riots begin!

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-06   21:35:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Fred Mertz, buckeroo (#3)

buy Pebbles a one-way ticket to Cleveland in mid-July. He'll join the Trump riots

Governor Kasich may call out the Ohio National Goons to subdue stone, and ensure that a governor from Ohio is the nominee.



The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-04-06   21:40:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

After Bernie

You filthy socialist.

I'm gonna laugh as he loses any hope for a presidential win... and then realizes he's too old to breathe long enough for another run. lol

The best part of a liberal is that eventual one foot in the grave when it arrives. By the way, how old are you, you I love Lucy watching dinosaur?

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-04-06   22:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#0)

I've met both men, and I'd much rather have a beer with Cruz.

Well hell yeah. Cruz has a fine ass bevy of ho's to choose from, while Kasich would prefer an altar boy.

Logsplitter  posted on  2016-04-06   23:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

Mailman's son and all.

Het, I am a mailman's son.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-07   0:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: GrandIsland, Ready for Hillary, Loser Drumpf, Fred Mertz, A K A Stone (#6)

You filthy socialist.

Kasich does well in polls against Hillary. But you want a President Xlinton #45, so you're backing the least electable candidate.... Trump the loser.

If Fred could post he'd tell you that you're a F'n retard!

Stone, please free Fred Mertz so that he can respond to GI and your posts.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-04-07   4:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#9)

Nobody was even talking to you, liberal.

Typical liberal, you think everything is about you.

Mind your own business, and continue on with your 100% never saying anything bad about a (D).

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-04-07   6:33:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: hondo68 (#5)

FUNNY PICTURES OF KASICK AS KUALAS. LOL !! I can picture him swinging around in a tree.

The picture in uniform should have been a US Mail uniform. LOL!

Thanks for posting, good laugh!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-04-07   18:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GrandIsland, Trump Pumpin' (#10)

Go back to your Trump pumpin', creep.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-04-07   18:58:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Stoner, Fred Mertz (#11)

Free Fred Mertz !!!


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-04-07   19:02:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: hondo68, redleghunter (#12)

I can't get over how incredibly tiny his hands are.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-07   19:26:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TooConservative (#14)

Comment Removed Inappropriate

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-07   19:37:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#15)

I can't stand Kasich.

I never get why you make up such bizarre lies about people who disagree with you. I've probably never made a single nice post about Kasich here yet you just make this nonsense up.

So does doing that on a regular basis tend to discredit me (as you intend) or are you just discrediting yourself (unintentionally)?

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-07   19:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TooConservative, SOSO, sneakypete, hondo68, Stoner, war, GrandIsand (#9)

If Fred could post he'd tell you that you're a F'n retard!

Stone, please free Fred Mertz so that he can respond to GI and your posts.

Thank you, hondopehead.

Pebbles allowed me 2 posts a

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-04-07   19:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Fred Mertz (#17)

Thank you, hondopehead.

Pebbles allowed me 2 posts a

I'm about to make it 1 post per day.

Until you say you are sorry and promise to never do it again.

Then zero.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-07   19:43:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative (#16)

I can't stand Kasich

I don't believe you.

I think you would vote for Kasich.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-07   19:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#19)

I think you would vote for Kasich.

I'd say "maybe", unlike Trump which is "never". Kasich is a flake but he did have a strong record as a fiscal conservative in the House leadership, whatever his other shortcomings (which are many).

But then, I'm in a solid Red state presidentially and congressionally. So I can be more-conservative-than-thou without worrying about the consequences of not voting or voting third-party.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-07   19:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#18)

Some of us think you'd look good in a dress.

Apologize for what?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-04-07   19:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: TooConservative (#20)

So I can be more-conservative-than-thou

You're not really that conservative.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-07   20:13:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz (#21)

Some of us think you'd look good in a dress.

Any man who thinks another man would "look good in a dress" should eat a buckshot sandwich... Being queer is a violation of momma nature. Suicide is the only solution.... was it you that thinks every family has a queer in the house? Or was that Huey Deckard?

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-04-07   20:14:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: GrandIsland (#23)

So, how is Trump gonna pay for all his campaign lies? You are going to give up your free government pension programs and (of course) enjoy a tax increase. LQQKS like you will be on the street corner with all the other bums begging for free koffee & donuts.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-07   20:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#22)

You're not really that conservative.

Compared to Trump (or Romney or Stain or the Bushes), sure I am.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-07   20:20:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Fred Mertz (#21)

Apologize for what?

I didn't see it myself but it was alleged you issued a FU to Stone.

He's very offended when anyone uses such blue language.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-07   20:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#24) (Edited)

Don't be a dipstick, Bucky. Trump won't ever hurt the working man... He just might make all those lazy welfare F cks starve to death. You know, capitalism. Something you drug loving OWS turd birds know little about.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-04-07   20:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: TooConservative (#26)

He is? How does he use "blue language" in his article banners? ALL THE TYME.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-07   20:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: GrandIsland (#27) (Edited)

capitalism

how do you know anything about "capitalism" ... ah, yes you read karl marx one day while waiting on your morning shift for the wittle boyz&girlz to walk across the street going to school. that was the day when you rose up and outta your beach chair on the korner, screaming at the top of your lungs ... Iam free! you sat back, kicked some of your empty beer cans outta way of your feet and went to sleep waiting for a government pension.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-07   20:27:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: TooConservative (#25)

Compared to Trump (or Romney or Stain or the Bushes), sure I am

You are more conservative than Romney.

Less conservative than Trump on the border, Trade and probably some other stuff if I think about it.

I say that because Romeny is far to the left of Trump but you like him.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-07   20:29:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeroo (#28)

He is? How does he use "blue language" in his article banners? ALL THE TYME.

I do. I confess. Please forgive me.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-07   20:34:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#30)

You are more conservative than Romney.

Definitely.

Less conservative than Trump on the border

That would be true only if Trump wasn't lying through his teeth.

I don't believe for one second that Trump will close that border. He's playing you and a lot of others for a fool.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-07   20:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone, Fred mertz (#31)

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-07   20:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: TooConservative (#32)

That would be true only if Trump wasn't lying through his teeth.

I don't believe for one second that Trump will close that border. He's playing you and a lot of others for a fool.

I think you are wrong. Here is why.

He has talked about foreigners flooding our country for a long time. He has talked about how Japan and China rip us off on Trade since the 80's.

He has been consistent on that one.

Also I truly believe he loves this country and doesn't want to see it become a peon participant if a global government. He is the only candidate that is against these sell out trade deals. That goes hand in hand with deporting illegals.

You know what though. Honestly when I talk to some Hispanic illegals. Personally I like them. The ones I have conversed with. Just saying.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-07   20:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: buckeroo (#33)

I do. I confess. Please forgive me. FREE FRED!

Off topic, Buck.

Fred is free. To start his own site and run it like he wants to.

He can PM pinguinite at freedom4um.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-07   20:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#35)

Fred is free. To start his own site and run it like he wants to.

You are a fucking idiot.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-07   20:49:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: buckeroo (#36)

You are a fucking idiot.

And I didn't even sanction you.

I bet every other forum host would.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-07   20:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeroo, Fred Mertz, sneakypete (#36)

You are a fucking idiot.

Don't insult the host providing you a free forum.

I never supported it when people did it to Goldi, I don't support it here either. Stone pays the tab for us to sound off here.

Fred should just apologize. It isn't like Stone expects he would be sincere or contrite.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-07   20:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: TooConservative (#38)

Stone owes LF an apoligy for ALL his article banners with 'blue commentary.'

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-07   21:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: buckeroo (#39)

Stone owes LF an apoligy for ALL his article banners with 'blue commentary.'

Send pinguinite a check for 500 bucks and I will apologize.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-07   21:02:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone (#40)

Isn't a transaction like your proposal, known as a bribe?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-07   21:15:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo (#41)

Isn't a transaction like your proposal, known as a bribe?

Call it what you will?

Deal?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-07   21:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: A K A Stone (#42)

Deal?

What do I get out of the 'Deal' beyond an 'apoligy?'

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-07   21:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeroo (#43)

Deal? What do I get out of the 'Deal' beyond an 'apoligy?'

Nothing.

Deal?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-07   21:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A K A Stone (#44) (Edited)

Deal?

You mean an empty 'apoligy' without remorse and a change of methods to ensure a cleaner, better chit-chat channel? Thats not a Deal.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-07   21:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: buckeroo (#45)

You mean an empty 'apoligy' without remorse and a change of methods to ensure a cleaner, better chit-chat channel?

That is opinion.

But ok no dice.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-07   21:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: buckeroo, Fred Mertz (#45)

You mean an empty 'apoligy'

Fred went to the Trump rally, but refused to buy a $500 Trump hat, and now he's banned.

Coincidence?



The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-04-07   21:37:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#46)

no dice

Ah ha! Caught again.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-07   21:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: hondo68, Fred Mertz (#47)

Fred has honour and integrity. Plus, he is no fool to buy a "Trump" cap.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-07   21:51:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: buckeroo (#49)

Fred has honour and integrity.

Haaaa, we talking about the same pathetically liberal Commie Sanders loving Fred? What is honorable about a bleeding heart SOFT libtard?

Liberalism is a weakness... it's a sickness.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-04-07   22:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: GrandIsland (#50)

What is honorable about a bleeding heart SOFT libtard?

Liberalism is a weakness... it's a sickness.

You are talking about you! It is as though you have a mirror in front of your face, pal.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-07   22:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: buckeroo (#51)

It is as though you have a mirror in front of your face, pal.

I'm not the one who has publicly stated they'd vote for Commie Sanders.

YOU are socialist Fred's defender and buddy. That makes you a filthy libtard as well.

Kindly stfu, PAL. lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-04-08   6:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Fred Mertz (#3)

FREE FRED!

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-08   7:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: sneakypete (#53)

Another "Fred the Commie Sanders loving" defender.

Imagin that... what's the odds. lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-04-08   7:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: hondo68 (#9)

If Fred could post he'd tell you that you're a F'n retard!

Fire Island may not understand it,but people have been telling him he is a retard for decades now. If his parents,all his schoolteachers,and his co-workers can't make him understand,neither can Fred.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-08   7:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: sneakypete (#55)

How's that 10% of your family members are faggots working out for you?

It must be in the water you all drink. lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-04-08   7:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone (#21)

Some of us think you'd look good in a dress.

I'd like to go on record as not being one of those people.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-08   7:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: sneakypete (#57)

I'd like to go on record as not being one of those people.

You should be getting tired at looking at men in dresses. After all, 1 out of 10 men in your family are flaming queers. You've admitted that.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-04-08   7:17:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: GrandIsland (#27)

Trump won't ever hurt the working man...

ROFLMAO!

Yup,if there is one thing Billionaires that use bankruptcy as a business model LOVE,it is the working classes.

BTW,what do you know about the working classes? You were a clown in a costume that was retired in place from the 1st day you started work.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-08   7:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone (#32)

I don't believe for one second that Trump will close that border. He's playing you and a lot of others for a fool.

Yup,he's just doing what con artists and other hucksters have done since the dawn of time,telling people what they want to hear to make the sale.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-08   7:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: A K A Stone (#34)

Honestly when I talk to some Hispanic illegals. Personally I like them.

Not sure I have ever talked with any illegals,but I lived in a Mexican neighborhood in Denver for a few years,and got along good with everybody in the neighborhood. Very friendly people for the most part. MUCH friendlier than the Anglo neighbors I had in either of the "white neighborhoods" I had lived in before. Some were the 3rd generation of their family to live in those houses.

I will note that the one thing that would always piss them off would be to call one of them a Mexican. They understood you were talking about their ethnicity and not their citizenship,but it would only take an instant for them to tell you they are Americans. If there were any of the La Raza crowd living there,I never met them.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-08   7:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: TooConservative (#38)

Fred should just apologize. It isn't like Stone expects he would be sincere or contrite.

Of what value is an insincere apology? It is an insult to all parties.

And truthfully,nobody makes more vulgar and vindictive posts to posters here than AKA Stone does. Does HE ever apologize?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-08   7:29:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: buckeroo (#45)

You mean an empty 'apoligy' without remorse and a change of methods to ensure a cleaner, better chit-chat channel? Thats not a Deal.

Well,there are damn few elected officials that wouldn't consider it to be a deal.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-08   7:31:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: GrandIsland (#56)

How's that 10% of your family members are faggots working out for you?

I will have you know that NOBODY in my family likes to dress up in costumes and wear a lot of leather.

Unlike you,bottom boy.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-08   7:34:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: GrandIsland (#58)

. After all, 1 out of 10 men in your family are flaming queers. Y

Are you saying you have dated 10 percent of the men in my family,bottom boy?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-08   7:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#62)

Of what value is an insincere apology? It is an insult to all parties.

It's a token. After all, there is no way to judge someone's sincerity via the internet anyway.

And truthfully,nobody makes more vulgar and vindictive posts to posters here than AKA Stone does. Does HE ever apologize?

He is sometimes contrite.

But this is his forum. He pays the bill. He shouldn't have to put up with people using his bandwidth and forum just to scream FU at him.

They used to do this to Goldi. I didn't like it then, don't like it now.

Back at TOS, they used to formulate it as "this is RimJob's living room so behave like you're a guest in his home." Well, that goes too far. But cursing at Stone or totally running him into the ground is bad form. After all, if he is so awful, why the hell do you (or others) post here? This ain't the only watering hole on the interwebs. You can always ignore Stone or bozo him. I don't recall he ever banned anyone who wasn't mouthing off to him directly. You don't have to love him, just don't call him names. That isn't too much to expect.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-08   8:05:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: sneakypete (#65)

Are you saying you have dated 10 percent of the men in my family,bottom boy?

Are you sure that's a good question? LOL

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-08   8:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: GrandIsland, sneakypete (#58)

After all, 1 out of 10 men in your family are flaming queers.

I hope when you find out you have a relative who is queer, you will do the honorable thing and kill yourself.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-04-08   8:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Deckard (#68)

I hope when you find out you have a relative who is queer, you will do the honorable thing and kill yourself.

Fat chance of him ever doing the honorable thing.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-08   10:25:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: sneakypete (#57)

Some of us think you'd look good in a dress.

I'd like to go on record as not being one of those people.

Fred who likes looking at men in dresses probably wonders why he can't log on this morning. lol

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-08   10:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: A K A Stone (#70)

I thought you wanted him to apologize.

He can't apologize if he can't log in, obviously.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-08   10:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: TooConservative (#71)

I thought you wanted him to apologize.

He can't apologize if he can't log in, obviously.

I did. But then Ihen I thought about his comment when he was already on limited posting.

Fred and sneaky correspond elsewhere.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-08   10:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete, Fred Mertz, buckeroo (#72)

Like many of us, Fred still has a 4um account. He's made 4 posts there today. I guess he might pass along an apology if he's so inclined. I think Neil checks in over there from time to time. I see that sneaky hasn't posted there since 2011, at least not on the public forum.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-08   10:58:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: A K A Stone (#70)

Fred who likes looking at men in dresses probably wonders why he can't log on this morning. lol

Free Fred!

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-08   11:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Deckard (#68)

Free Fred Mertz!


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-04-08   14:37:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: hondo68 (#75)

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-04-08   15:14:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: sneakypete (#64)

I will have you know that NOBODY in my family likes to dress up in costumes and wear a lot of leather.

No, your 10% of family faggots would rather run around naked and jam their queer pricks in every asshole they meet

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-04-08   18:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: sneakypete (#65)

Are you saying you have dated 10 percent of the men in my family,bottom boy?

I'd rather treat 10% of your fag family like Michael Brown. lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-04-08   18:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: GrandIsland (#77)

run around naked and jam their queer pricks in every asshole they meet

When are you homos going to quit posting your sexual fantasies about anal sex on LF?

You DO know that this is a political web site,and not one for picking up homosexual dates?

Does anybody wonder why I still call you "Fire Island".

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-08   18:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: sneakypete (#79)

YOU are the only poster that admits they have faggots in the wood pile.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-04-08   19:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: GrandIsland (#80)

YOU are the only poster that admits they have faggots in the wood pile.

The key word there is "admits",Princess. Don't be jealous though,your own family will have one once you come out of the closet.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-08   19:57:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: TooConservative (#73)

Free Fred!

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-09   8:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: buckeroo, Fred Mertz, sneakypete (#82)

Maybe we could create a stylish text logo.

F r e e
r
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    ; )

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-09   8:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: TooConservative (#83)

Maybe we could create a stylish text logo.

F r e e r e d

It would work for me if I could get copy and paste to work for me.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-09   9:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: sneakypete (#84)

You would need to View->Page Source (or the equivalent in your web browser), then copy the HTML. You could also try to right-click the logo table and select "Inspect" from the pop-up menu.

I was only half-serious anyway.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-09   10:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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