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Title: Ted Cruz is Not Eligible to run for president: A Harvard Law professor close-reads the Constitution
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Published: Jan 20, 2016
Author: Einer Elhauge
Post Date: 2016-04-06 15:24:09 by lana
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Comments: 95

Ted Cruz is Not Eligible to run for president: A Harvard Law professor close-reads the Constitution

The closer you study the Constitution, the weaker Ted Cruz's case squares with the actual meaning of "natural-born"

Einer Elhauge

Topics: Ted Cruz, Elections 2016, Editor's Picks, Donald Trump, Natural-born citizen, Can Ted Cruz be president, Can Ted Cruz run for president, constitution, aol_on, Business News, Life News, News, Politics News

(Credit: Reuters/Chris Keane)

The argument that Ted Cruz is eligible to run for president initially looked strong, then probable but uncertain. But closer examination shows it is surprisingly weak.

The constitutional text provides that a president, unlike other elected officials, must be a “natural born citizen.” This language could not mean anyone born a citizen or else the text would have simply stated “born citizen.” The word “natural” is a limiting qualifier that indicates only some persons who are born citizens qualify. Moreover, when the Constitution was enacted, the word “natural” meant something not created by statute, as with natural rights or natural law, which instead were part of the common law.

At common law, “natural born” meant someone born within the sovereign territory with one narrow exception. The exception was for children of public officials serving abroad, which does not help Cruz because his parents were not serving the United States when he was born in Canada. The case of John McCain was entirely different because he was born in a U.S. territory (the Panama Canal Zone) and to U.S. parents who were serving the U.S. military.

The argument for Cruz rests on some old statutes, namely English statutes enacted before the U.S. Constitution and U.S. statutes enacted just after. But neither turns out to be persuasive on closer examination.

The English statutes extended natural-born status to persons born abroad whose father was any English subject, rather than only a public official. Some argue that the constitutional framers meant to refer to this statutory redefinition of the term “natural born.” But that position contradicts the ordinary meaning that the word “natural” indicates a non-statutory meaning. Moreover, Prof. Mary McManamon offers convincing evidence that the Framers meant the common law meaning. James Madison himself said in 1789 that the U.S. used the place of birth rather than parentage. In any event, Cruz’s father was not a U.S. citizen when he was born (again unlike McCain), so these English statutes do not help Cruz.

The U.S. statute in 1790 provided that “children of citizens of the United States” that are born abroad “shall be considered as natural born Citizens.” This has been thought the strongest evidence for Cruz’s position since so many 1790 congressmen had participated in the Constitutional Convention. However, this statute did not say these children were natural-born citizens. It instead carefully said they “shall be considered as” natural-born citizens, suggesting that Congress thought they were not natural-born citizens but should be treated as such. Indeed, there would have been no need to pass the statute if they were already understood to be natural-born citizens.

Further, when this Act was reconsidered in a few years, Madison himself pointed out that Congress only had constitutional authority to naturalize aliens, not U.S. citizens, and reported a bill that amended the statute to eliminate the words “natural born” and simply state that “the children of citizens of the United States” born abroad “shall be considered as citizens.” This indicates that Madison’s view was that children born abroad of U.S. citizens were naturally aliens, rather than natural born citizens, and thus could be naturalized by Congressional statute but should not be called “natural born.” Congress adopted this amendment in 1795.

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#1. To: lana (#0)

Natural Born is in contradistinction to naturalized.

Cruz is a natural born citizen. So is Rubio. Whether or not Obama is depends on a question of law that has never been answered. Logically he is not.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-06   15:29:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

"Natural Born is in contradistinction to naturalized."

Says who?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-06   15:48:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#5)

Says who?

Logic.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-06   16:02:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13 (#9)

Says who?
Logic.

Meaning you made it up.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-06   16:08:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite (#11) (Edited)

Meaning you made it up.

As have you - everything you've said.

There is no controlling legal authority - none. It's never been litigated.

There is a logic to the law, and I'm better placed than most to know that logic, given that I've studied law, graduated with honors, practiced for a long time, been admitted in two states and before two federal courts.

There is no final answer until the Supremes rule, and there's no case before them. So anybody can say whatever he'd like.

I think that if it went before the federal courts, they would rule that born a citsen = natural born. No other decision would fit the logic of the law.

For all of the energy put into arguing originalism, originalism is not the law of the land, never has been, and unless Trump is elected and puts originalists on the court, probably never ever will be.

So, what Vattel said in 1768 is completely irrelevant.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-06   16:13:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Vicomte13 (#13)

unless Trump is elected and puts originalists on the court

Never happen - he loves Kelo.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-04-06   16:16:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: ConservingFreedom (#14)

he loves Kelo.

Cite?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-06   16:49:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Roscoe (#21)

www.breitbart.com/video/2...-eminent-domain-even-for-private- projects-is-wonderful-thing-youre-not-taking-property/ :

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump argued that eminent domain, including for private projects that “employ thousands of people” is “a wonderful thing” in an interview broadcast on Tuesday’s “Special Report” on the Fox News Channel.

Trump stated, “I think eminent domain is wonderful, if you’re building a highway, and you need to build, as an example, a highway, and you’re going to be blocked by a hold-out, or, in some cases, it’s a hold-out, just so you understand, nobody knows this better than I do, because I built a lot of buildings in Manhattan, and you’ll have 12 sites and you’ll get 11 and you’ll have the one hold-out and you end up building around them and everything else, okay? So, I know it better than anybody. I think eminent domain for massive projects, for instance, you’re going to create thousands of jobs, and you have somebody that’s in the way, and you pay that person far more — don’t forget, eminent domain, they get a lot of money, and you need a house in a certain location, because you’re going to build this massive development that’s going to employ thousands of people, or you’re going to build a factory, that without this little house, you can’t build the factory. I think eminent domain is fine.”

Trump was then asked for his past support for the Supreme Court’s ruling on eminent domain in Kelo v. New London, he stated, “Eminent domain — number one, a person has a house, and they end up getting much more than the house is ever worth. You know, eminent domain is not like you — they take your house.”

He added, “if you have a road or highway, you gotta do it. If you have a factory where you have thousands of jobs, and you need eminent domain, it’s called economic development.”

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-04-06   17:06:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: ConservingFreedom (#22)

Thanks. Another reason to vote for Trump. He's more of an originalist than Scalia was.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-06   17:15:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Roscoe (#23)

Like Trump said, if you were in favor of the Keystone Pipeline you were in favor of eminent domain.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-06   17:22:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: misterwhite (#26)

As the Founders and Framers intended.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-06   17:23:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Roscoe (#27)

As the Founders and Framers intended.

Cite?

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-04-06   17:29:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: ConservingFreedom (#28)

32 U.S. (7 Pet.) 243 (1833)

Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-06   17:30:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Roscoe (#29)

That was before the Fourteenth Amendment; since then, see 166 U.S. 226, 233, 236-37 (1897).

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-04-06   17:51:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: ConservingFreedom (#32)

That was before the Fourteenth Amendment

The 14th Amend. says nothing about eminent domain. Or incorporation.

In Kelo, the Court effectively chose to protect original intent.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-06   18:06:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Roscoe (#33)

The 14th Amend. says nothing about eminent domain. Or incorporation.

I'll take the Court's reasoning over your say-so: "Due process of law, as applied to judicial proceedings instituted for the taking of private property for public use means. therefore, such process as recognizes the right of the owner to be compensated if his property be wrested from him and transferred to the public. The mere form of the proceeding instituted against the owner, even if he be admitted to defend, cannot convert the process used into due proces of law, if the necessary result be to deprive him of his property without compensation."

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-04-07   10:19:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: ConservingFreedom (#47)

I'll take the Court's reasoning

The 14th Amend. says nothing about eminent domain. Or incorporation.

And the Court's reasoning in Kelo laughed at your position.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-07   10:22:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#53. To: Roscoe (#48)

The 14th Amend. says nothing about eminent domain. Or incorporation.

I'll take the Court's reasoning over your say-so: "Due process of law, as applied to judicial proceedings instituted for the taking of private property for public use means. therefore, such process as recognizes the right of the owner to be compensated if his property be wrested from him and transferred to the public. The mere form of the proceeding instituted against the owner, even if he be admitted to defend, cannot convert the process used into due process of law, if the necessary result be to deprive him of his property without compensation."

And the Court's reasoning in Kelo laughed at your position.

Wrong as usual - Kelo in no way contradicts that compensation is required when a state exercises eminent domain, but broadens the meaning of "public use" that is a requirement for a state to exercise eminent domain.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-04-07 10:56:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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