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Title: Ted Cruz Wins Wisconsin Republican Primary
Source: KFSM-TV
URL Source: http://5newsonline.com/2016/04/05/t ... -wisconsin-republican-primary/
Published: Apr 5, 2016
Author: [none]
Post Date: 2016-04-05 22:00:54 by ConservingFreedom
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Views: 16070
Comments: 99

(CBS NEWS) — According to the CBS News Wisconsin Republican primary exit poll:

Cruz is running well across many groups of Wisconsin primary voters. He is beating Trump among men and women by about 10 percent, and he is ahead of Trump in all age groups.

Trump did less well in Wisconsin among groups of voters who have been his core supporters in previous primaries.

Cruz is winning among those with college degrees and among those without. They are about even among those with no more than a high school degree.

Cruz does better among more affluent voters but still runs almost even with Trump among those with incomes under $50,000.

Cruz runs well among those who said they are “very conservative” as he has in previous primaries, but he also edges out Trump among those who said they are “somewhat conservative.” Trump has generally beat Cruz among those who say they are somewhat conservative. Trump does lead Cruz among political moderates.

As many as 34 percent of Republican primary voters say that bringing needed change is the candidate quality that most mattered in their vote decision; Cruz and Trump run neck and neck among these voters. This is better than Cruz has done in previous primaries. Cruz ran well ahead of Trump among voters who said that they want a candidate who shares their values and among those who wanted a candidate who can win in November.

Sixty-five percent of Republican primary voters said they were very worried about the direction of the nation’s economy, and Cruz beat Trump among these voters.

Seventy percent support a temporary ban on Muslims who are not U.S. citizens entering the country, and Cruz and Trump are very close among this group.

Trump does beat Cruz among those who want to deport illegal immigrants who are not U.S. citizens, but only about one in three Republican primary voters support this position. Cruz topped Trump easily among the majority of primary voters who want to offer illegal immigrants a chance to apply for legal status.

Trump did very well among the half of Republican primary voters who want the next president to be from outside the political establishment, but he only got 7 percent of the vote of those who prefer the next president to have political experience.

The Republican exit poll asked voters, “If no one wins a majority of the delegates before the convention, should the party nominate the candidate with the most votes in the primaries or the candidate who the delegates think would be the best nominee?”

More than half, 56 percent, said the party should nominate the candidate with the most votes. Another 42 percent said it should be the candidate who the delegates think would be the best nominee. However, this varied widely between Trump and Cruz voters. As many as 83 percent of Trump voters said the nominee should be the candidate who won the most votes in the primaries. Among Cruz supporters, 56 percent said it should be the best nominee, and 42 percent said it should be the candidate with the most votes.

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#11. To: ConservingFreedom, TooCpnservative, AKA Stone, vicomte13, All (#0)

Barring the strange and unusual, even for this campaign, I believe that Trump will get the nomination on the first ballot. Uncommitted delegates will put him over the top.

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-05   23:05:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: SOSO, nolu chan (#11)

Barring the strange and unusual, even for this campaign, I believe that Trump will get the nomination on the first ballot. Uncommitted delegates will put him over the top.

Cruz seems to have locked up 90%. I don't see how you can say that seriously.

Cruz is also locking up significant numbers of delegate slots with his supporters, people who are bound to vote for Trump on the first (or second) ballot but who will then flock to Cruz.

And Rubio is just waiting with his hoard of 172 delegates. Kasich has 54. And Bush and others have some to toss in too, for their final revenge against The Donald's sneers at them.

If Rubio and Kasich and Bush and others unbind their delegates and Cruz has hundreds of unbound delegates plus about 800 of his own delegates, Cruz could win on the first ballot against Trump, outright.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-05   23:19:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative, SOSO (#13)

Cruz seems to have locked up 90%.

90% of what?

Cruz will be mathematically eliminated from any possibility whatever of attaining a 1237 majority after the April 19th primary in New York. Cruz is running in third, has been there for a while, and is over 30 points behind Trump. Cruz can preach, but he can't sell his brand of snake oil in New York.

Cruz is likely to be shut out in the northeast.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-04-05   23:37:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: nolu chan, TooConservative (#14)

Cruz will be mathematically eliminated from any possibility whatever of attaining a 1237 majority after the April 19th primary in New York.

It will take a lot of opium smoking to see how Cruz has a realistic chance to get 1237 on the first ballot even with the uncommitted and unbound delegates. Both CNN and Fox have been doing the math based on the current polling in the remaining 13 +/- states. There is an odds on bet that Trump will be 45 or so votes short going into the convention with about 150 uncommitted/unbound delegates to be had. Trump's chances look good to get the 45 +/- out of these that he needs. But this has been a very strange campaign year.

Bottom line, IDM who gets the REP nomination as the REP Party is toast in 2016.

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-06   0:17:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: SOSO, TooConservative (#18)

Both CNN and Fox have been doing the math based on the current polling in the remaining 13 +/- states. There is an odds on bet that Trump will be 45 or so votes short going into the convention with about 150 uncommitted/unbound delegates to be had.

I do not think current polling will have any validity when it becomes mathematically impossible for Cruz to win a majority. Wisconsin appeared good for Kasich but he was shut out in every county.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-04-06   0:42:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: nolu chan (#22)

Both CNN and Fox have been doing the math based on the current polling in the remaining 13 +/- states. There is an odds on bet that Trump will be 45 or so votes short going into the convention with about 150 uncommitted/unbound delegates to be had.

I do not think current polling will have any validity when it becomes mathematically impossible for Cruz to win a majority. Wisconsin appeared good for Kasich but he was shut out in every county.

I certainly would not put any money on the predictive accuracy of the polling. Didn't one poll yesterday have Trump 10% up on Cruz in WI?

But again, IDM who the REPs wind up nominating they are toast in Nov.

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-06   1:00:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: SOSO (#23)

But again, IDM who the REPs wind up nominating they are toast in Nov.

In a vacuum, I would agree. However, the Dems need to win with somebody.

Can an avowed socialist win?

Can anyone assure that Hillary will survive and win after the FBI report is made?

The Dem party is almost as fractured as the Rep party. This is the wackiest election season I have ever seen.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-04-06   13:14:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: nolu chan (#62)

Can an avowed socialist win?

I today's America? Hell yes!!

"Can anyone assure that Hillary will survive and win after the FBI report is made?"

Indictment? Are you kidding?

"The Dem party is almost as fractured as the Rep party. This is the wackiest election season I have ever seen."

The DRat tribe will always rally together. Hell, they even supported the likes of Dukakis, Humphrey, and McGovern. Even JFK had a "fractured" party until he selected LBJ as his running mate. DRats are very tribal animals.

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-06   14:47:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: SOSO (#75)

Indictment? Are you kidding?

I said nothing of an indictment. The FBI report could be severely damaging whether Loretta Lynch acts on it or not. It depends on what information it publishes.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-04-06   15:07:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: nolu chan (#76)

The FBI report could be severely damaging whether Loretta Lynch acts on it or not. It depends on what information it publishes.

Who is the boss of the FBI?

Who controls the entire alleged Justice Department?

Who hires and fires the Feeb director?

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-06   15:18:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: sneakypete (#79)

FBI DIrector's Term is 10 Years. He cannot be fired by the President, only removed by Congress. The current FBI Director is a Bush appointee.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-06   15:41:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Vicomte13 (#80) (Edited)

FBI DIrector's Term is 10 Years. He cannot be fired by the President, only removed by Congress. The current FBI Director is a Bush appointee.

It doesn't matter.His boss is the head of the alleged Justice Department,and he can be fired by the president.

If ordered to do something,he either does it or resigns.

BTW,Boy Jorge was no better than Bathhouse Barry.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-06   15:47:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: sneakypete (#83)

It doesn't matter.His boss is the head of the alleged Justice Department,and he can be fired by the president.

If ordered to do something,he either does it or resigns.

He could refuse to do it on the basis of law, and then refuse to resign also, and go public with what he was ordered to do.

Then, if the order was specifically political, what happened would be clear - and clearly obstruction of justice.

Then the AG could attempt to fire him, but he could resist removal, and the President could fire him, but he could also resist removal.

And then there would be an interesting set of legal maneuvers, with a Supreme Court divided and unable to rule.

Congress would leap to the fore with an impeachment, further complicating the situation.

By simply being stubborn and refusing to obey orders that he could interpret as obstructions of justice, the FBI director, in the current environment, could touch off a constitutional crisis that would destroy Obama's legacy and that would set all politics on fire.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-06   15:57:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Vicomte13 (#85)

He could refuse to do it on the basis of law, and then refuse to resign also, and go public with what he was ordered to do.

Then, if the order was specifically political, what happened would be clear - and clearly obstruction of justice.

Then the AG could attempt to fire him, but he could resist removal, and the President could fire him, but he could also resist removal.

And then there would be an interesting set of legal maneuvers, with a Supreme Court divided and unable to rule.

Congress would leap to the fore with an impeachment, further complicating the situation.

Yeah. Coulda,shoulda,woulda.

You shoulda started that off with "Once upon a time....",like all good fairy tales.

You DO know FBI directors are political creatures that were appointed by politicians,right?

Do you really think there is ANY chance that ANY politician would ever appoint one that won't follow orders?

Especially after all the crap that Janet Edgar Hoover (sucks like a Hoover!) got away with by using his secret files?

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-06   16:10:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: sneakypete (#87)

Do you really think there is ANY chance that ANY politician would ever appoint one that won't follow orders?

William Sessions refused to resign and was removed by Clinton in 1993.

This time it's much harder, because Obama is nearing the end, and there's no Supreme Court to back him.

If the FBI Director resists removal by claiming it is obstruction of justice, there is no easy answer.

So yeah, I think that the FBI director, faced with an order to obstruct justice, might defy it, go public and refuse to leave the office, forcing the President to litigate...without a court that can give an answer.

Ugly. UUUUUGLY.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-06   16:23:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Vicomte13 (#90)

So yeah, I think that the FBI director, faced with an order to obstruct justice, might defy it, go public and refuse to leave the office, forcing the President to litigate...without a court that can give an answer.

Ok. I guess we will probably see for ourselves before long.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-06   17:44:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: sneakypete (#91)

Ok. I guess we will probably see for ourselves before long.

What I think actually WILL happen is that the FBI interviews with Clinton and her crew will be so carefully staffed, scripted and choreographed by Loretta Lynch that she will claim to find ambiguity, and refsue to prosecute.

And I think that before the FBI Director gets the chance to put a recommendation to prosecute before Lynch, he will be dissuaded from doing so.

I don't think Hillary will be indicted. The opposite: I think the FBI will exonerate her.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-06   18:33:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#93. To: Vicomte13 (#92)

I don't think Hillary will be indicted.

On this we agree. She has been breaking the laws with impunity ever since she was caught manufacturing and destroying evidence while on the staff of the Watergate Committee,and even then she just got fired instead of prosecuted.

Now with decades of blackmail material on everybody in power in DC,she's bulletproof.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-06 18:49:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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