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Title: Ted Cruz Wins Wisconsin Republican Primary
Source: KFSM-TV
URL Source: http://5newsonline.com/2016/04/05/t ... -wisconsin-republican-primary/
Published: Apr 5, 2016
Author: [none]
Post Date: 2016-04-05 22:00:54 by ConservingFreedom
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Views: 16050
Comments: 99

(CBS NEWS) — According to the CBS News Wisconsin Republican primary exit poll:

Cruz is running well across many groups of Wisconsin primary voters. He is beating Trump among men and women by about 10 percent, and he is ahead of Trump in all age groups.

Trump did less well in Wisconsin among groups of voters who have been his core supporters in previous primaries.

Cruz is winning among those with college degrees and among those without. They are about even among those with no more than a high school degree.

Cruz does better among more affluent voters but still runs almost even with Trump among those with incomes under $50,000.

Cruz runs well among those who said they are “very conservative” as he has in previous primaries, but he also edges out Trump among those who said they are “somewhat conservative.” Trump has generally beat Cruz among those who say they are somewhat conservative. Trump does lead Cruz among political moderates.

As many as 34 percent of Republican primary voters say that bringing needed change is the candidate quality that most mattered in their vote decision; Cruz and Trump run neck and neck among these voters. This is better than Cruz has done in previous primaries. Cruz ran well ahead of Trump among voters who said that they want a candidate who shares their values and among those who wanted a candidate who can win in November.

Sixty-five percent of Republican primary voters said they were very worried about the direction of the nation’s economy, and Cruz beat Trump among these voters.

Seventy percent support a temporary ban on Muslims who are not U.S. citizens entering the country, and Cruz and Trump are very close among this group.

Trump does beat Cruz among those who want to deport illegal immigrants who are not U.S. citizens, but only about one in three Republican primary voters support this position. Cruz topped Trump easily among the majority of primary voters who want to offer illegal immigrants a chance to apply for legal status.

Trump did very well among the half of Republican primary voters who want the next president to be from outside the political establishment, but he only got 7 percent of the vote of those who prefer the next president to have political experience.

The Republican exit poll asked voters, “If no one wins a majority of the delegates before the convention, should the party nominate the candidate with the most votes in the primaries or the candidate who the delegates think would be the best nominee?”

More than half, 56 percent, said the party should nominate the candidate with the most votes. Another 42 percent said it should be the candidate who the delegates think would be the best nominee. However, this varied widely between Trump and Cruz voters. As many as 83 percent of Trump voters said the nominee should be the candidate who won the most votes in the primaries. Among Cruz supporters, 56 percent said it should be the best nominee, and 42 percent said it should be the candidate with the most votes.

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#7. To: ConservingFreedom, A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Whatever the merits of Cruz, I would say this is a demo of just how powerful Scott Walker is with GOP voters in Wisconsin. They've stood with him steadily from the start. Cruz owes this victory to Walker. As much as endorsements do not often matter, this one really did, as did having a friendly and powerful governor on the ground putting his campaign machine at Cruz's disposal.

Other minor helps for Cruz is Priebus is from WI and so is Speaker Ryan (who Trump badmouthed in his hometown, Janesville). A crowd of Trump's crackpots cheered him for that but it could not have played well with the WI GOP voters at large. Wisconsin GOP voters are rightly proud of the power of the state GOP they've built up and its major role in national GOP politics.

I'm not sure if Walker is interested but this could signal a cabinet position for him, certainly consideration on the Cruz VP short list. Kasich is better positioned than Walker for VP. So is Rubio who is carefully guarding his 170+ delegates to keep them bound to him until the convention when he could release them and urge them to vote for Cruz so he could become VP (or SoS or SoD). Kasich is the guy Cruz would want as VP to run against Hitlery (and carry indispensable Ohio) but Rubio is the guy that Cruz may not be able to win the nomination without.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-05   22:43:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: TooConservative (#7)

"so is Speaker Ryan (who Trump badmouthed in his hometown, Janesville)."

Didn't I post the YouTube clip of that? Trump simply mentioned Paul Ryan's name and the crowd booed. You need that posted again? How many times will you post that lie?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-06   9:59:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: misterwhite (#33)

Trump simply mentioned Paul Ryan's name and the crowd booed. You need that posted again?

Doesn't matter. Whether it's Trump or the kinds of supporters he draws, the offensiveness to the average WI GOP voter and to GOP voters in general is already established. You don't get to just wish it away.

There have been some elements at Trump's rallies that almost seem like plants for the Dems or perhaps agitators trying to make Trump look bad. The Bernie crowd would be likely suspects in WI.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-06   10:24:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: TooConservative (#35)

Doesn't matter. Whether it's Trump or the kinds of supporters he draws, the offensiveness to the average WI GOP voter and to GOP voters in general is already established. You don't get to just wish it away.

Nor do you get to wish away the unpopularity of Ted Cruz, or of the Republican Establishment.

The problem that you guys on the right are going to run into no matter what is the fact that the Left unites the poor and the minorities, and poor people blame YOUR policies, not the Democrats', for having destroyed their jobs, while Hispanics and blacks blame YOU for discrimination against them.

So let's be generous and accept your argument that Trump, with all of his crossover voters, is too unpopular to win. That means, in a nutshell, that the Democrats will win.

So once you've played all of the inside baseball on the Republican side, you still end up with the intractable problem that the only candidate you have who has a real chance of beating the Democrats in November is Trump.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-06   13:01:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Vicomte13 (#59)

"So once you've played all of the inside baseball on the Republican side, you still end up with the intractable problem that the only candidate you have who has a real chance of beating the Democrats in November is Trump."

Yep. Yet all we hear is "Not Trump. Not Trump".

Then who? Cruz? If the people want Cruz, then let the people select Cruz. So far they haven't. If they haven't by now, why would they later?

And the reasons given for not liking Trump are flat-out ludicrous. Jonah Goldberg (NRO) had a recent article in USA Today where he blasted Trump because Trump said he wants America to win again. Because, you see, winning is a bad thing if you win by "overturning long-held notions of ideological orthodoxy".

He then cites Barry Goldwater as a hero, because despite the fact he lost in a landslide he stood for a principle.

Idiot.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-06   13:33:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: misterwhite (#65)

The funny thing is that a Democrat victory by Bernie Sanders would actually be closer to what Trump has offered in key foreign policy areas and regarding universal health insurance than anything any other Republican offers.

If it's Bernie versus Cruz, or Jeb or Rubio or Ryan - or any other Republican but Trump - a very large number of Trump supporters (including me) will go vote for Sanders for just that reason.

It is TRUMP that the new throng of Trump supporters are voting for, not the Republican Party.

Take Trump and his voters out of the party, and the Republicans are a minoritarian, aging white rump of cranks, gun nuts, bitter-ender Reaganites, Cold Warriors, Israel Firsters and snake-handling nuts.

The Republicans did not win Congress. Obama lost Congress. But the Republicans didn't stop Obama, and the country is doing poorly mainly for the folks voting for Trump. THOSE folks are NOT going to vote Republican except for Trump.

Oust Trump, and see Sanders win on the Democrat side, and you'll have the implementation of full-on democratic socialism, European style, which will be pretty popular, because it's a damn sight better for the bottom 47% than what we've got now.

The Republicans are used to falling back on delaying tactics, but that is because they have not fully comprehended that the only reason they were able to do that under Carter and Clinton and Obama is because of Republican control of the Supreme Court.

If a Democrat wins, the DEMOCRATS will control the Supreme Court for the first time since Nixon, and that means a very swift rubber stamp of Democrat ideology and structure.

The limits of Executive Orders is untested. A Democrat Supreme Court will give a Democrat President practically unlimited discretion. Republicans won't be able to delay things as they have, because the President will simply order the executive departments to take action, and the Supreme Court will uphold the President.

Then Congress will have one expedient: government shutdown - and government shutdown destroys the Republicans every time they try it, ultimately because rich Republican donors are the primary beneficiaries of government contract payments.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-06   13:53:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Vicomte13, misterwhite (#68)

It is TRUMP that the new throng of Trump supporters are voting for, not the Republican Party.

Yes. Trump is not nationally a Republican or Democrat. He's a New York Republican which is what many might consider akin to a Democrat. He is not really locked to any party, but to solving problems.

If Trump goes away, all those new Trump voters go with him.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-04-06   14:13:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: nolu chan (#70)

If Trump goes away, all those new Trump voters go with him.

Which is what I have been saying was a part of the plan from the beginning.

He gets to spend the rest of his life bragging about how he "could have been the President of the US if I had wanted,but I decided the job was beneath me,so I dropped out of the race.",and Bubbette! sails to the WH with virtually no opposition other than Sanders.

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