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Title: Justice Thomas Asks: Why Are Second Amendment Rights So Easily Taken Away?
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Forbes
URL Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgel ... ts-so-easily-taken-away/print/
Published: Apr 2, 2016
Author: George Leef
Post Date: 2016-04-02 20:39:54 by Hondo68
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Justice Thomas had not asked a question during oral arguments since 2006 when, during the arguments in Voisine v. United States on February 29, he posed a question to the government’s counsel, Assistant to the Solicitor General Ilana Eisenstein. Immediately, the anti-Thomas press, always eager to portray the justice as a clueless incompetent (after all, he rejects most of the leftist notions about the role of government), indulged in nasty headlines such as “It Speaks!” Imagine the furor if a leftist icon were called “it.” Exactly what is Voisine about and what did Justice Thomas ask? The case deals with a seemingly dry question of statutory interpretation: Does a misdemeanor crime that requires only a showing of recklessness qualify as a crime of domestic violence under 18 U.S. Code Sections 921 (a)(33)(A) and 922 (g)(9)? That latter part of the U.S. criminal code is known at the Domestic Violence Offender Gun Ban, a.k.a the Lautenberg Amendment, signed into law in 1996 by President Clinton. It makes it a felony for anyone who has been convicted of a domestic violence misdemeanor ever to have anything to do with firearms: shipping or transporting them, owning or using them, even possessing ammunition. One strike and you’re out under this law. In the two cases from Maine joined in Voisine, the defendants had been convicted of reckless domestic violence misdemeanors and were later found in possession of firearms, leading to their prosecution for violating the federal gun ban. They moved to have the cases dismissed on the grounds that the Maine statute, under which someone can be convicted for intentional, knowing or merely reckless conduct isn’t covered by the Lautenberg amendment. The trial court ruled against their motions and they appealed to the First Circuit Court of Appeals, which affirmed with one judge dissenting. (If you want much more detail about the case, Rory Little’s post on SCOTUSblog has it.) Ms. Eisenstein had just finished her argument that the First Circuit’s decision should be upheld when Justice Thomas spoke up: “Can you think of another area where a misdemeanor violation suspends a constitutional right?” Taken aback, she floundered for a reply and Justice Thomas interjected, “You’re saying that recklessness is sufficient to trigger a misdemeanor violation of domestic conduct that results in a lifetime ban on possession of a gun, which at least as of now is still a constitutional right.” Again, he put the question: “Can you think of another constitutional right that can be suspended upon a misdemeanor violation of a State law?” Ms. Eisenstein admitted that she knew of no other instance where a misdemeanor can have that effect, but tried this route of escape: “Other examples, for example in the First Amendment context, have allowed for suspension or limitation of a right to free speech or even free association in contexts where there is a compelling interest and risk associated in some cases less than a compelling interest under intermediate scrutiny.” The exchange continued (you can read it in full here) for a while, but when Justice Thomas gets back to the First Amendment, he asks, “Let’s say that a publisher is reckless about the use of children…and it’s a misdemeanor violation. Could you suspend that publisher’s right to ever publish again?” Eisenstein replies, “Your Honor, I don’t think you could suspend the right ever to publish again, but I think you could limit the manner and means by which…” Justice Thomas: “So how is that different from suspending your Second Amendment right?” Point made. The Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms (which Justice Thomas ominously says is “at least for now” a right) is treated as being in a different class from the rest. Of course, it should not be. In their amicus brief, Gun Owners of America state, “As a preexisting right, the right to keep and bear arms ought to enjoy the same stature as other inalienable rights, most notably, the freedoms of religion, speech, press, assembly, and petition.” It ought to, but probably won’t. In fact, the right to keep and bear arms is apt to erode further unless, miraculously, another Second Amendment defender takes the seat of the late Justice Scalia. Law professor Josh Blackman observes here that Justice Thomas was “speaking truth to power,” but unfortunately power couldn’t care less. In all likelihood, a divided Court will affirm the First Circuit’s decision (a 4-4 split always affirms the lower court’s ruling). The defendants will have to stand trial and probably be convicted. The precedent will be set that any American who is ever guilty of even a “reckless” domestic violence misdemeanor will henceforth have to choose between owning a firearm – no matter how urgent his need for self defense — and a long prison term (up to ten years) and huge fine (up to $250,000) if caught. Our so-called liberals who have no reason to fear for their own safety are intent on taking guns away from as many Americans as they possibly can. Justice Thomas can’t stop them without more help on the Court. Poster Comment: There's little doubt that a president Trump would try to push through a justice who's a liberal gun grabber like his sister, and his transsexual date Ruby Giuliani. 
Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas “speak[s] truth to power” on gun rights, but unfortunately power couldn’t care less. (Susan Walsh-Pool/Getty Images)Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas is known for his silence during oral arguments. He has explained that he doesn’t think he learns much about a case that hasn’t already been covered in the briefs for the contending parties plus the numerous amicus briefs that explore many more aspects of the case. He prefers to listen and allow the lawyers to argue without further interruption.
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#5. To: hondo68 (#0)
Horseshit... There is no evidence whatsoever that a president Trump could succeed in pushing through a justice who's a liberal gun grabber like his sister, or Ruby Giuliani. Get a grip on your hyperbole. -- But in any case, if the SCOTUS and/or govt ever did try to ban firearms, -- they would not succeed...
Yeah, there is. He has been a registered Democrat for decades; his recent morph into a Republican cloak is further proof: he flip-flops on many issues.
Horseshit... There is no evidence whatsoever that a president Trump could succeed in pushing through a justice who's a liberal gun grabber like his sister, or Ruby Giuliani. Where does he get the power to convince the Senate to consent to a gun grabber? Calm yourselves, a Trump presidency will not be the end of the world.
The first Republican president, dishonest Abe Lincoln threatened to jail the supreme court unless they ruled that the south must remain in the United States of Slavery. Well, they still are. There's a long tradition of ignoring the constitution. There's little doubt that the scofflaw Republican and Democrat voters will elect another tyrant. It matters not what congress or the supreme court says, the sheeple demand a genuine D&R Crime Syndicate dictator, who will ignore the constitution and rule of law. It's the American way.
Rave on.
#12. To: tpaine, tpaine, buckeroo (#11)
His so-called raving is dead spot in truth. The first POTUS to ignore the Constitution was.........wait for it..........Washington.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestThere's little doubt that a president Trump would try to push through a justice who's a liberal gun grabber like his sister, and his transsexual date Ruby Giuliani.
#6. To: tpaine, hondo68 (#5)
Horseshit... There is no evidence whatsoever that a president Trump could succeed in pushing through a justice who's a liberal gun grabber like his sister, or Ruby Giuliani.
#7. To: buckeroo (#6)
Yeah, there is. He has been a registered Democrat for decades; his recent morph into a Republican cloak is further proof: he flip-flops on many issues.
#10. To: tpaine, buckeroo, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#7)
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Where does he get the power to convince the Senate to consent to
#11. To: hondo68 (#10)
Replies to Comment # 11. Rave on.
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