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However, he then added that abortion is murder. Asked how he'd like to change the law to further restrict access to abortions, Trump replied, "The laws are set now on abortion and that's the way they're going to remain until they're changed." "I would've preferred states' rights," he added. "I think it would've been better if it were up to the states. But right now, the laws are set....At this moment, the laws are set. And I think we have to leave it that way." "Do you think abortion is murder?" Dickerson asked. "I have my opinions on it, but I'd rather not comment on it," Trump replied. "You said you were very pro-life," Dickerson followed up. "Pro-life means that...abortion is murder." "I mean, I do have my opinions on it. I just don't think it's an appropriate forum," said Trump. "But you don't disagree with that proposition, that it's murder?" Dickerson asked. "No, I don't disagree with it," Trump eventually replied. Okay. As long as you're giving the proper amount of thought to these issues. There was once a very intelligent man who said, "The moment Trump gets into trouble, he's going to start pandering like crazy to liberals, because he just doesn't know any better." Here we see Trump finally realizing the damage he caused to himself with Michelle Fields and Heidi Cruz, plus his own goal on abortion, so his response, to get back those women he cherishes so much, is to say "Hey, let's leave the abortion laws as they are. But privately, I think abortion is murder. FYI." I seriously can't think of a worse political position: On one hand, he's telling the pro-life people I'm not changing any abortion laws. Fine, okay, most presidents won't try, but few are as upfront in telling a key part of the conservative movement they're getting the goose-egg. Simultaneously, on the other hand, he pisses off the pro-choice people, by telling them that, while he won't be changing the abortion laws, that abortion is murder. It's lose-lose. With a bonus lose for it being dreadfully obvious that he simply hasn't given the issue a lick of thought and is now just basically button-mashing (as Allah puts it) in hopes that some combination of inputs gets him past the boss on this level. Posted by Ace at 07:27 PM Comments Donald Trump: About That Thing I Just Said A Few Hours Ago-- Nevermind —Ace The woman will, or rather will not be punished, and the laws will not, or rather will, be changed. .@realDonaldTrump spox Hope Hicks walks back Trump abortion comments to CBS. Says Trump WILL change law on abortion pic.twitter.com/1oedertZbC— Jeremy Diamond (@JDiamond1) April 2, 2016 Hey, by ten o'clock we might have another Trump position on abortion, so stay tuned. Posted by Ace at 09:03 PM Comments Poster Comment: The carnival barker executes another double-backflip on abortion. It takes real courage to confuse yourself with all these "hypotheticals" four times in less than four days. But it's only murder. Well, unless it isn't. Who really knows anyway? You keep thinking the rats will realize they're following the Pied Piper but ... Let the Trumpsplaining commence! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: All, A K A Stone, misterwhite, Roscoe, SOSO, ConservingFreedom, sneakypete, tomder55, redleghunter, GarySpFc, Fred Mertz, buckeroo, et al (#0) ping Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-02   9:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: TooConservative (#1) If the law hypothetically punished abortion, all parties to the crime should be punished. The President has no control over state abortion laws. You're so easily confused. Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-02   9:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Roscoe (#2) I'm just waiting for Trump to tell us that abortion should be made mandatory. Then Hope Hicks can come out again to Trumpsplain it all away. Comedy gold. Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-02   10:01:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: TooConservative (#0) "You said you were very pro-life," Dickerson followed up. "Pro-life means that...abortion is murder." "Pro-life" is a convenient description given to those who want to make most, or all, abortions illegal. It says nothing about whether or not the individual considers it murder. misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-02   10:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: TooConservative (#0) "I would've preferred states' rights," he added. "I think it would've been better if it were up to the states. But right now, the laws are set....At this moment, the laws are set. And I think we have to leave it that way." Of course we have to leave the laws that way. At least until the U.S. Supreme Court shifts their position. No President ... no Congress ... no State ... can change our abortion laws. misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-02   10:07:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: misterwhite (#4) "Pro-life" is a convenient description given to those who want to make most, or all, abortions illegal. It says nothing about whether or not the individual considers it murder. Oh, obviously that changes everything! LOL You can enjoy this gem of an interview on CBS on their Face The Nation show. And it will be fresh in the minds of WI voters for Tuesday's primary. Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-02   10:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: TooConservative (#6) "And it will be fresh in the minds of WI voters for Tuesday's primary." Could work in Trump's favor. It'd really be funny if exit interviews showed Democrats voting for Trump en masse because they thought he was pro-choice. misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-02   10:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: Roscoe (#2) "The President has no control over state abortion laws." The interviewers sure do act as though he does. misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-02   10:25:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: TooConservative (#0) "On one hand, he's telling the pro-life people I'm not changing any abortion laws." So you think he should lie and tell them he will? And how will he do that, pray tell? By Executive Order? misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-02   10:34:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: misterwhite (#7) Could work in Trump's favor. You should count on it. How can Trump lose WI after hitting this one out of the ballpark? Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-02   10:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: TooConservative (#0) Abortion is not a presidential issue, though everyone likes to pretend it is. Pinguinite  posted on  2016-04-02   11:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: TooConservative (#10) "How can Trump lose WI after hitting this one out of the ballpark?" There you go! That's the attitude we like to see! misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-02   11:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: TooConservative (#0) On one hand, he's telling the pro-life people I'm not changing any abortion laws. Fine, okay, most presidents won't try, but few are as upfront in telling a key part of the conservative movement they're getting the goose-egg. Simultaneously, on the other hand, he pisses off the pro-choice people, by telling them that, while he won't be changing the abortion laws, that abortion is murder. Trump the uniter .He has untied both sides of the abortion issue in opposition to him. Well done ! "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato tomder55  posted on  2016-04-02   11:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: tomder55 (#13) (Edited) Punish cunts who murder their offspring. You,really not provide life. Your position is murder your kid no consequences. I don't see how you consider yourself christian. Repent. A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-02   11:12:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: TooConservative (#10) Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-04-02   11:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: TooConservative, All, A K A Stone, misterwhite, Roscoe, ConservingFreedom, sneakypete, tomder55, redleghunter, GarySpFc, Fred Mertz, buckeroo, (#1) "I would've preferred states' rights," he added. "I think it would've been better if it were up to the states............." The most stupid, illogical, immoral position to have. Either an unborn fetus is or is not a human being, a person entitled to every protection and right under the U.S. Constitution as is any other person. To have 50 different determinations of the nature of the unborn fetus and the legal protections it is due is indefensible on any ground. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2016-04-02   11:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: A K A Stone (#14) are we talking the law or scripture ? "But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins "(Matthew 6:15). If God chooses to punish the mother then it is God's will .“Vengeance is mine, I will repay” (Romans 12:19). As for the law ,I don't believe that the woman should be held responsible for the crime . If abortion is illegal ,it is the abortionist who has profited from it .The abortionist should pay the price. "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato tomder55  posted on  2016-04-02   11:37:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: SOSO (#16) "To have 50 different determinations of the nature of the unborn fetus and the legal protections it is due is indefensible on any ground." That's the way it was for 200 years until an activist court looked into a penumbra of an emanation and found the right to murder an unborn child in the U.S. Constitution. Returning the issue to the states allows each state to make that determination. If you don't like the decision reached by your state, at least you can move. misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-02   11:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: TooConservative (#3) I'm just waiting for Trump to tell us that abortion should be made mandatory. Odd. I was waiting for you to say the same thing, TooProAbort. Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-02   12:12:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: SOSO (#16) The most stupid, illogical, immoral position to have. Only absolute centralized power is moral. /sarcasm Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-02   12:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: misterwhite (#8) The interviewers sure do act as though he does. The interviewers want a dictator. Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-02   12:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: Roscoe (#21) "The interviewers want a dictator." The interviewers want their dictator. misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-02   12:37:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: TooConservative (#0) The meme of "I'm personally against abortion but believe it should be legal " has been the liberal talking point for at least 20 years. Amounts to: I'm personally against murder but think we need to keep it lawful for others. Trump has just embraced the NARAL platform. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8) redleghunter  posted on  2016-04-02   12:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: redleghunter (#23) Are you one of those hard shell Baptists? You probably want booze outlawed - it is in most Kentucky counties, including Bourbon County. I think some religions think dancing is sinful too. While you're at it, ban bacon too! Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-04-02   12:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: misterwhite (#18) "To have 50 different determinations of the nature of the unborn fetus and the legal protections it is due is indefensible on any ground." That's the way it was for 200 years until an activist court looked into a penumbra of an emanation and found the right to murder an unborn child in the U.S. Constitution. There was no 14th Amendment 200 years ago. And abortion was illegal in the U.S. through the mid-1880s. If you are going to debate the issue at least bone up on the facts. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2016-04-02   12:57:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: misterwhite (#25) Here, I will help you out. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2016-04-02   12:59:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: Roscoe (#20) The most stupid, illogical, immoral position to have. Only absolute centralized power is moral. /sarcasm Did I say that moron? But perhaps you are against the centralized power that did away with slavery or gave women the right to vote or establishes reasonable restrictions preventing the abuse of public natural resources or fights our wars. It hard to imagine that you can be any bigger of a dolt. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2016-04-02   13:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: Fred Mertz (#24) Are you one of those hard shell Baptists? You probably want booze outlawed - it is in most Kentucky counties, including Bourbon County. I think some religions think dancing is sinful too. While you're at it, ban bacon too! You've lost it Fred. Better get back on those meds. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2016-04-02   13:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: SOSO (#28) Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-04-02   13:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: TooConservative, A K A Stone, misterwhite, Roscoe, vicomte13, ConservingFreedom, sneakypete, tomder55, redleghunter, GarySpFc, Fred Mertz, buckeroo, All (#1) Donald Trump: Actually, Now That I Think About It............... Gee, I wonder how much he thought about it when he decided to be pro-choice. And again how much he thought about it when he decided to be pro-life. His own words "now that I think about it" strongly suggest that he hadn't thought about either position before. But to his credit he is changing. But.......but........I wonder what other positions that he has espoused will change after he really thinks about them? There really is no hope for a Trump dupe. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2016-04-02   13:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: SOSO (#27) Did I say that moron? Yep. In the most stupid, illogical, immoral way possible. Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-02   13:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: Fred Mertz (#29) Villanova will win it all too. I'm not sure where to make that bet. I am certain that someone at the track can point you in the right direction. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2016-04-02   13:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: SOSO (#25) "There was no 14th Amendment 200 years ago." The U.S. Supreme Court found a right to privacy in the U.S. Constitution. They then used the 14th amendment to apply that right to the states. "And abortion was illegal in the U.S. through the mid-1880s. If you are going to debate the issue at least bone up on the facts." It was illegal at the state level. I said it was a state-level decision for 200 years. So what's your problem? misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-02   13:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: Roscoe (#31) Did I say that moron? Yep. In the most stupid, illogical, immoral way possible. Then please have the courage to post my statement. If you can't you lose big time. But you are used to that, aren't you? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2016-04-02   13:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: SOSO (#34) post my statement. "The most stupid, illogical, immoral position to have." Did you forget already? Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-02   13:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: misterwhite (#33) I said it was a state-level decision for 200 years. That's immoral! Only centralized government is good! Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-02   13:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: misterwhite (#33) It was illegal at the state level. I said it was a state-level decision for 200 years. So what's your problem? The problem is that it was not at all illegal at the state level 200 years ago. Do your homework. I even gave you a link which you obviously didn't read. Abortion was perfectly legal in ancient Rome and Greece and in England up to 1803 or so. It wasn't until the mid-;ate 1880s that it wasn't legal in the U.S. As for SCOTUS, it claimed that a fetus was not a person as applied under Amendment 14th and that right of privacy of the women was superior to any right of the fetus thereunder. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2016-04-02   13:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: Roscoe (#35) "The most stupid, illogical, immoral position to have." Did you forget already? LMAO. It appears that you did, loser. You must be a Trump dupe. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2016-04-02   13:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: misterwhite, SOSO (#18) That's the way it was for 200 years until an activist court looked into a penumbra of an emanation and found the right to murder an unborn child in the U.S. Constitution. Returning the issue to the states allows each state to make that determination. If you don't like the decision reached by your state, at least you can move. Or work to change your state's law, or engage in civil disobedience against it. Dare we ask where Trump stands (today) on a federal abortion-restricting amendment? ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-04-02   13:20:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: SOSO (#38) It appears that you did Only to you and the voices in your head. Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-02   13:22:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply         .       .       . Comments (41 - 253) not displayed. 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