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Title: Donald Trump: Actually, Now That I Think About It, Let's Leave the Abortion Laws As They Are [CBS]
Source: Ace Of Spades
URL Source: http://ace.mu.nu/#362525
Published: Apr 1, 2016
Author: Ace
Post Date: 2016-04-02 09:46:31 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 42844
Comments: 253

Donald Trump: Actually, Now That I Think About It, Let's Leave the Abortion Laws As They Are

I'm changing, I'm changing. I'm softening that position.

However, he then added that abortion is murder.
Asked how he'd like to change the law to further restrict access to abortions, Trump replied, "The laws are set now on abortion and that's the way they're going to remain until they're changed."

"I would've preferred states' rights," he added. "I think it would've been better if it were up to the states. But right now, the laws are set....At this moment, the laws are set. And I think we have to leave it that way."

"Do you think abortion is murder?" Dickerson asked.

"I have my opinions on it, but I'd rather not comment on it," Trump replied.

"You said you were very pro-life," Dickerson followed up. "Pro-life means that...abortion is murder."

"I mean, I do have my opinions on it. I just don't think it's an appropriate forum," said Trump.

"But you don't disagree with that proposition, that it's murder?" Dickerson asked.

"No, I don't disagree with it," Trump eventually replied.

Okay. As long as you're giving the proper amount of thought to these issues.

There was once a very intelligent man who said, "The moment Trump gets into trouble, he's going to start pandering like crazy to liberals, because he just doesn't know any better."

Here we see Trump finally realizing the damage he caused to himself with Michelle Fields and Heidi Cruz, plus his own goal on abortion, so his response, to get back those women he cherishes so much, is to say "Hey, let's leave the abortion laws as they are. But privately, I think abortion is murder. FYI."

I seriously can't think of a worse political position: On one hand, he's telling the pro-life people I'm not changing any abortion laws. Fine, okay, most presidents won't try, but few are as upfront in telling a key part of the conservative movement they're getting the goose-egg.

Simultaneously, on the other hand, he pisses off the pro-choice people, by telling them that, while he won't be changing the abortion laws, that abortion is murder.

It's lose-lose. With a bonus lose for it being dreadfully obvious that he simply hasn't given the issue a lick of thought and is now just basically button-mashing (as Allah puts it) in hopes that some combination of inputs gets him past the boss on this level. Posted by Ace at 07:27 PM Comments



Donald Trump: About That Thing I Just Said A Few Hours Ago-- Nevermind

—Ace

The woman will, or rather will not be punished, and the laws will not, or rather will, be changed.

.@realDonaldTrump spox Hope Hicks walks back Trump abortion comments to CBS. Says Trump WILL change law on abortion pic.twitter.com/1oedertZbC— Jeremy Diamond (@JDiamond1) April 2, 2016
Hey, by ten o'clock we might have another Trump position on abortion, so stay tuned.

Posted by Ace at 09:03 PM Comments


Poster Comment:

The carnival barker executes another double-backflip on abortion. It takes real courage to confuse yourself with all these "hypotheticals" four times in less than four days. But it's only murder. Well, unless it isn't. Who really knows anyway?

You keep thinking the rats will realize they're following the Pied Piper but ...

Let the Trumpsplaining commence!

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#1. To: All, A K A Stone, misterwhite, Roscoe, SOSO, ConservingFreedom, sneakypete, tomder55, redleghunter, GarySpFc, Fred Mertz, buckeroo, et al (#0)

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Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-02   9:48:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative, All, A K A Stone, misterwhite, Roscoe, ConservingFreedom, sneakypete, tomder55, redleghunter, GarySpFc, Fred Mertz, buckeroo, (#1)

"I would've preferred states' rights," he added. "I think it would've been better if it were up to the states............."

The most stupid, illogical, immoral position to have. Either an unborn fetus is or is not a human being, a person entitled to every protection and right under the U.S. Constitution as is any other person. To have 50 different determinations of the nature of the unborn fetus and the legal protections it is due is indefensible on any ground.

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-02   11:32:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: SOSO (#16)

"To have 50 different determinations of the nature of the unborn fetus and the legal protections it is due is indefensible on any ground."

That's the way it was for 200 years until an activist court looked into a penumbra of an emanation and found the right to murder an unborn child in the U.S. Constitution.

Returning the issue to the states allows each state to make that determination. If you don't like the decision reached by your state, at least you can move.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-02   11:52:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: misterwhite (#18)

"To have 50 different determinations of the nature of the unborn fetus and the legal protections it is due is indefensible on any ground."

That's the way it was for 200 years until an activist court looked into a penumbra of an emanation and found the right to murder an unborn child in the U.S. Constitution.

There was no 14th Amendment 200 years ago. And abortion was illegal in the U.S. through the mid-1880s. If you are going to debate the issue at least bone up on the facts.

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-02   12:57:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: SOSO (#25)

"There was no 14th Amendment 200 years ago."

The U.S. Supreme Court found a right to privacy in the U.S. Constitution. They then used the 14th amendment to apply that right to the states.

"And abortion was illegal in the U.S. through the mid-1880s. If you are going to debate the issue at least bone up on the facts."

It was illegal at the state level. I said it was a state-level decision for 200 years. So what's your problem?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-02   13:13:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#36. To: misterwhite (#33)

I said it was a state-level decision for 200 years.

That's immoral! Only centralized government is good!

Roscoe  posted on  2016-04-02 13:17:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: misterwhite (#33)

It was illegal at the state level. I said it was a state-level decision for 200 years. So what's your problem?

The problem is that it was not at all illegal at the state level 200 years ago. Do your homework. I even gave you a link which you obviously didn't read. Abortion was perfectly legal in ancient Rome and Greece and in England up to 1803 or so. It wasn't until the mid-;ate 1880s that it wasn't legal in the U.S.

As for SCOTUS, it claimed that a fetus was not a person as applied under Amendment 14th and that right of privacy of the women was superior to any right of the fetus thereunder.

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-02 13:19:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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