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New Discovery! 2023 Hottest in over 120 Million Years 2024 and beyond in prophecy Questions Status: Not Logged In; Sign In WORLD WAR III See other WORLD WAR III Articles Title: That which you fail to finish you condemn yourself to repeat Source: ABC URL Source: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04- ... r-says-pyongyang-envoy/7294158 Published: Apr 1, 2016 Author: paraclete Post Date: 2016-04-01 19:43:26 by paraclete Keywords: world war III Views: 1119 Comments: 10 Sabre rattling has reached new heights as the North Koreans chuck a tantrum because their threats are not taken seriously and someone wants to take their toys away. Once again we move closer to war on the Korean pensinula, a result of not finishing off the cold war conflict. A world tired of war can be excused for taking the easy way out, but a ceasation of hostilities does not mean the war is over, at least not in the minds of one of the belligerants. the proof of statesmanship will be seen in the way world leaders respond and threats of nuclear war from the Dump will be unhelpfull Click for Full Text! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 7. #2. To: paraclete (#0) Yes, the ongoing tensions are the result of neither side's winning the original now. But what is it that you're proposing? Breaking the UN armistice and invading North Korea for the purposes of conquering it. And when the Chinese intervene, as they did last time, what then? Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-01   22:40:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Vicomte13 (#2) But what is it that you're proposing? No, I'm proposing that the US stop inflaming the situation by holding military exercises close to North Korea and engage the North Koreans in meaningful treaty negotiations that will remove the need to engage in military confrontation. The Chinese were a combatant in Korea but any thought of fighting a war with them had been shelved until recently. We are all aware that the regime in NK is difficult but they are paranoid and every time the US engages in military exercises in the region they see it as direct confrontation thus they feel the need to assert themselves. How unhelpfull is it that a proposal for South Korea and Japan become nuclear armed is touted for political gain, it is the politics of stupidity to goad the NK in this way. paraclete  posted on  2016-04-01   23:07:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: paraclete (#3) Faced with a China aggressively taking over the South China Sea, a nuclear-armed South Korea, Japan, Philippines and Taiwan seems like an interesting idea. It removes the necessity of defending these countries, at great danger to ourselves, and serves to demonstrate to China and to North Korea that if you nuke up and start pushing people around, they can nuke up and stop you in your tracks. And if the damnfool North Koreans actually push the button, they die in a series of fireballs and the issue is settled. By contrast, as it stands now, if the Chinese flex their muscles excessively, we have to decide whether or not we're willing to risk war with China. Ditto for the North Koreans. Far better to complicate the Chinese strategic picture by having the nations they are trying to push around nuclear armed and capable of pushing them back. Nuclear weapons kept the peace since 1945. They keep the peace between India and Pakistan. They mean that even if the US abandoned NATO, the British and French have a sanctuary in Western Europe that no foreign army can break (other than through uncontrolled immigration and subversion). Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-02   7:26:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Vicomte13 (#6) nukes like every other weapon invented will eventually be used . It is the height of folly that Trump thinks it is a good idea to proliferate them to South Korea ,Japan ,and South America. It is even dumber for the emperor to promote an Iranian bomb as he has done with his foolish concessions to the 12ers. tomder55  posted on  2016-04-02   7:58:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 7. #8. To: tomder55 (#7) nukes like every other weapon invented will eventually be used . It is the height of folly that Trump thinks it is a good idea to proliferate them to South Korea ,Japan ,and South America. They HAVE BEEN used, by us, on Japan. The impact of that event is seared on the world's imagination. Nuclear weapons are the REASON that Stalin's Russia and the USA didn't go to war after World War II, during the Berlin Blocade, for instance. The United States should not be forever providing the defense of Japan and South Korea, mighty nations, at our risk and our expense. Those nations should provide for their own defense, and the way they should do it against China (which they cannot beat in a direct conventional fight) is with their own nuclear weapons. Taiwanese independence against an aggressive China should not simply be vouchsafed by America being held hostage to nuclear fire by China. The Taiwanese should have their own nuclear forces capable of destroying China, should the Chinese choose to invade. The virtue of nukes is that they are much cheaper than large conventional forces, and a much greater deterrent. In the 1940s, Germany was able to surprise France and overrun her, But with nuclear weapons, not even the Soviet Union could successfully overrun France and survive. They balance small nations against huge nations, because small nations with a substantial nuclear force can obliterate the largest nations. Mutually Assured Destruction keeps the peace. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-02 08:12:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 7. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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