" If Trump has the most delegates and they don't give him the nomination.
I'm done voting for Republicans forever. Comprende? "
If that happens, I suspect you will not be by yourself.
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In a first past the post election he would win, but this race has different rules, it is actually a preferential voting system, where less than 50% means you don't win
In a first past the post election he would win, but this race has different rules, it is actually a preferential voting system, where less than 50% means you don't win
If Trump has the most delegates and they don't give him the nomination.
I'm done voting for Republicans forever. Comprende?
These are the rules Republican candidates have lived under since the founding of the party . They have lived with the same rules for 160 years .William Seward in 1860 got 41.5 percent of the delegates in the 1st ballot .Lincoln won the nomination .
Trump and his supporters should understand that by now. Majority wins ,not plurality . If he goes into the convention with a plurality that is close to a majority then let's see how his trumpeted negotiating skills come into play. If he is as good at horse trading as he says he is ,he should have no trouble in the 2nd and subsequent ballots .
He talks about fairness as if he is a Dem. Is it unfair that a plurality of electors is not enough to win the Presidency ? That if you don't secure a majority of the electors that the Presidential election is then decided by the House of Representatives ? Yes it probably is an unfair process ,but that is the Constitutional rules of the game.
But I hear the 'will of the people' will be denied .That is simply not true . A less than 50 % approval rating ,and going into the convention with less than 50% of the delegates does not mean that the candidate is carrying the mandate of the majority of the people.
You can’t steal something from someone who has no legitimate claim to it, and the rules do not give someone a legitimate claim to the nomination without a majority of the delegates.
"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato
You don,t comprende. It is just a fact that the Republican party will lose everything if they screw trump. I don't care if it is in their undemocratic rules. They can fuck themselves. They aren't the only ones that can vote hillary. If it's Kasich vs Clinton I'll vote Clinton out of spite. Get ready to kiss our country goodbye.
If an unrepresentative manufactured "majority" wins, the victory will be pyrrhic.
What do you think it is when many of the states allow crossover voting ? What do you think it is when some states are winner take all ,and others have various concoctions of proportional delegate designations ...when some have caucus and some have primaries ,and some select delegates in state conventions ? The primary process was never an exercise in democracy .
"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato
Voters over parties, state sovereignty, fixed law.
but not the democratic will of the people. It doesn't surprise me that Trump doesn't get the process. He ran on a lark and did not expect to be where he's at . But since there is a good chance that he is going to be the party nominee; perhaps he should take a few minutes to familiarize himself with the party rules and traditions.
"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato
How is crossover voting not the democratic will of the people?
[This should be fun.]
Here is an instance where it was hilarious . Cross over voting can be used as a form of political sabotage. Back in 2008 ,the Republican nomination was wrapped up early in the primary season . But the Dems were in a contest where Evita had been the presumed nominee... but the emperor exploded on the scene and appeared to be wrapping up the nomination.
That is when Rush Limbaugh got this idea that Republicans should not vote in the Republican primary in states that had cross over primaries ,and should vote in the Dem primary ;for Evita ,to keep the Dem candidates in the contest ,expending more campaign funds. Texas ,Indiana ,and Ohio Republicans crossed over en masse . Evita won by 14,000 votes in Indiana.
"Rush Limbaugh was tampering with the primary, and the GOP has clearly declared that it wants Hillary Clinton as the candidate," Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.), an Obama supporter, told reporters on a conference call. On the same call, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said Limbaugh "had a clear factor in the outcome."
So you see ,it is not clear cut that voters are crossing over because they favor the candidate they vote for . They may just want to boost the prospects of the weakest candidate in the other party. If it were up to me ,the Republicans would ban the practice. If someone wants to vote in a Republican primary they should be registered as such . Here in NY where the Dems reign supreme that is the rule . They know better than to let the electorate of the opposing party select their candidate .
"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato
Again, how is crossover voting not the democratic will of the people?
It is not because selecting a candidate to run for the party is not a democratic process . It should not be allowed by the Republicans . It is how you get liberal candidates like McCain and Trump as the party standard bearer .What you have is non- Republicans selecting the Republican candidate .
"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato
