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Title: Trump: If abortion is banned, there has to be some form of punishment for women who do it
Source: HotAir
URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2016/03/ ... unishment-for-women-who-do-it/
Published: Mar 30, 2016
Author: Allahpundit
Post Date: 2016-03-30 17:16:58 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 50151
Comments: 274

Charles Cooke calls this an ideological Turing test, i.e. a question whose answer reveals how plausible it is that Trump really is who he claims to be. The standard answer from nearly all serious pro-lifers is that it’s the abortionist, not his patient, who should be sanctioned if and when abortion is banned. The March of Life explains why:
“Mr. Trump’s comment today is completely out of touch with the pro-life movement and even more with women who have chosen such a sad thing as abortion,” said Jeanne Mancini, President of the March for Life Education and Defense Fund. “Being pro-life means wanting what is best for the mother and the baby. Women who choose abortion often do so in desperation and then deeply regret such a decision. No pro-lifer would ever want to punish a woman who has chosen abortion. This is against the very nature of what we are about. We invite a woman who has gone down this route to consider paths to healing, not punishment.”

Ted Cruz, when he’s inevitably asked about this now, will give some variation of that same response. Trump, whom his conservative critics suspect of being an opportunist on abortion rather than committed to the cause, went a different route. You can almost see the wheels turning in his head here: He knows, as a political matter, that he can’t let Cruz get to his right on abortion. Republicans will let him slide on a lot — a lot — but if he gives them reason to think he’s BSing them on an issue at the very core of social conservatism, it could give Cruz the break he needs to take off. And so, when he gets the question from Matthews about what to do with women who insist on having abortions in a hypothetical future where the practice is banned, he goes with his gut — and his gut is “stay to the right.” So … sure, let’s punish women for abortion. This is the message the party’s carrying into the general election against the first woman major-party nominee, huh? By a guy who’s already having major problems polling among women, no less.

It’s easy to understand how an amateur would stumble into this answer, writes Matt Lewis, but why would you want to nominate an amateur?
In truth, like the notion that there should be exceptions for rape and incest, the notion that only the abortion doctor (not the woman having the abortion) should face penalties, is inconsistent with the notion that “abortion is murder.”

Yet these political compromises are necessary in order to cobble together a palatable and defensible (if admittedly inconsistent) public policy position that might someday actually be able to win the argument in mainstream America.

Part of the goal is to remove the ability for pro-choicers to demagogue the issue by scaring vulnerable women. Now, thanks to Trump, that’s back on the table.

Trump’s already trying to walk it back even though the townhall with Matthews from which this was clipped hasn’t aired yet:
#Trump campaign issues brief statement on #abortion: pic.twitter.com/jJFhzmHP5W

— Sarah McCammon NPR (@sarahmccammon) March 30, 2016

Hillary’s already attacking him over it. So is Team Cruz, as you’ll see in the second clip below. Trump can run from it but it’s on tape and every down-ballot Republican will wear it now if he’s the nominee. And the best part, as one Twitter pal said, is that Trump will eventually (“eventually” as in “probably within the next few hours”) deny that he ever said it to begin with. Still think this is all part of a master strategy or could it be that he really is winging it?

Cruz campaign: Cruz focuses on punishing those who perform abortions, not women who get them https://t.co/GRrUbWpzGE https://t.co/7am5Tcd7AG

— The Lead CNN (@TheLeadCNN) March 30, 2016


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The next Trump scandal.

This will keep Vannity and Coulter and the other Mini-Me's busy Trumpsplaining it away for the next few days.

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#1. To: TooConservative (#0)

The answer is, turn the abortion decision over to each state. The way it was up until 1973, prior to Roe v Wade.

If a state makes abortion illegal, it means no one is allowed to perform them in that state. If a doctor performs an illegal abortion, the doctor is charged (as he would be if he engaged in assisted suicide).

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-30   17:40:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: misterwhite (#1)

The answer is, turn the abortion decision over to each state.

But if you do that, then Trump can't punish them for having abortions.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-03-30   18:15:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TooConservative (#8)

"But if you do that, then Trump can't punish them for having abortions."

Matthews never said what the law was. His question was essentially, "If abortion is illegal and a woman breaks the law should she be punished?"

Trump responded that if she has a back-alley abortion, she should be punished. It was a bad answer to a bad question.

Making abortion illegal means doctors are not allowed to perform them. As to whether or not the woman should also be punished, what does the law say?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-30   18:32:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Too Conservative, All (#11)

Matthews never said what the law was. His question was essentially, "If abortion is illegal and a woman breaks the law should she be punished?"
-- misterwhite

I'm listening to Rush and he's saying the exact same thing I posted.

Trump heard the question as a law-and-order one, not abortion. And that's the way he answered it.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-31   12:35:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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