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Title: Snowden: Brussels Attack AND Boston Bombing Could Have Been Stopped
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The Anti-Media
URL Source: http://theantimedia.org/snowden-bru ... mbing-could-have-been-stopped/
Published: Mar 28, 2016
Author: Claire Bernish
Post Date: 2016-03-29 13:16:04 by Deckard
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Views: 881
Comments: 15
Edward Snowden proffered a rather damning criticism of international intelligence during a lecture last week, arguing the terror attacks in Belgium were entirely preventable and could have been stopped. As Snowden explained: “In all the talk of Brussels, there’s a story that just recently broke, which I’m not sure has gotten the same play as the others, which is that the attack was preventable; and it was preventable through traditional means, not mass surveillance. An allied intelligence service — in this case, in Turkey — warned Belgium that this individual was a criminal, that they were involved in terrorist activities, and this individual turned out to be one of the suicide bombers.” As Snowden noted during the University of Arizona panel discussion, which also included Professor Noam Chomsky and journalist Glenn Greenwald, these reports surfaced almost immediately after the attacks claiming Belgian and other intelligence forces had been notified of the potential danger this individual posed. In fact, an exclusive, though unverified report by Haaretz claimed “The security services knew, with a high degree of certainty, that attacks were planned in the very near future for the airport and, apparently, for the subway as well.” But what stands as a matter of crucial importance is that we’ve witnessed, yet again, not only a failure by intel to act on credible information, but a further example of the uselessness of mass surveillance to thwart any attack. It wasn’t surveillance that gave Belgian intelligence its information, rather, it had been Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdo an sounding the alarm. Turkey had previously deported one of the attackers as a “foreign terrorist fighter” — and Turkish officials notified the Belgian embassy in Ankara they had done so. “In the United States, we have the same thing, in the Boston Marathon bombings. We were explicitly warned by foreign intelligence services that one of the brothers [who] was involved in the bombings would be engaged in that kind of activity,” Snowden added. In fact, it was Russian intelligence that alerted the FBI about about Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s links to militant Muslim terrorist groups; but the ostensibly inept U.S. intelligence community failed to do anything — due to a spelling error in his name. Whether that was actually the case or something darker might have been afoot remains unclear, but the point is the same: even when the appropriate governmental agencies have the information necessary to stop a terrorist attack, they fail to do so — every time. Tsarnaev had been investigated, and in June 2011, the FBI concluded he had “no links to terrorism,” NBC News noted. In September, according to the Independent, “Russia’s FSB sent a cable to the CIA restating their initial warning, and a second note on Tsarnaev was entered on the TECS [U.S. Customs and Border Protection database] system, but his name was misspelled ‘Tsarnayev.’” A few months later, he was in ‘terror training’ in Dagestan after passing through Moscow. When he returned to the U.S. via New York’s JFK Airport, his name triggered an alert but, due to the misspelling, he wasn’t considered a top priority among the “100 other names on a ‘Hot List’ of people traveling through JFK that day.” It appears the same fumbling took place surrounding the Brussels attacks: two of the brothers involved, Khalid and Ibrahim El Bakraoui, “were listed as a potential terror threat in U.S. databases,” NBC News reported, citing unnamed and unverified U.S. officials. Congressional committees have now requested to know which databases, for how long, and “whether and how the information was shared.” Despite these multiple intelligence blunders concerning individuals known to be dangerous, politicians immediately proposed even further truncations of civilian liberties, both in Europe and the United States. In an interview with Democracy Now, Glenn Greenwald discussed the implications: “I think it’s really important to note a couple of things about Brussels. Number one is, the Brussels attack is now the fourth straight attack, after Boston, the Charlie Hebdo massacre, and then the Paris attacks, where siblings, brothers, were at the heart of the planning. And just like in those three previous attacks that I just referenced, the attacks were carried out by people who live in the same communities, who live very close to one another, and who almost certainly met in person in order to plan them. And yet, the exploitive mindset of Western politicians is to say, every time there’s a successful attack carried out, it means we need to wage war on encryption, we need greater surveillance, we need more police in these communities. But the reality is … none of that will actually help detect the attack.” Indeed, it appears such crackdowns — including Cruz’ and Trump’s call for patrolling Muslim neighborhoods and Clinton’s insistence on increased surveillance and police forces — serve, instead, to fuel resentment, which ultimately breeds more terrorist activities. Greenwald explained the most facile solution to terrorism by noting what drives it. For “15 years,” he said, the United States “has been declaring itself at war and bombing multiple countries and then acts surprised when people want to come and attack us back. “And so I think, more than saying we need more intelligence and more surveillance and wage war on encryption and more bombing campaigns, we need to be asking whether there are things that we can be doing that reduce the incentive for people to kill us … and especially the support infrastructure that they get because of the anti-American and anti-European sentiment that gets generated when we engage in all of this violence in the world.” Snowden, Greenwald, and myriad experts continue to warn of how this cycle not only creates more terrorists, but, almost by design, seems meant to make pliable the populace for increasing infringements on privacy rights. Ultimately — and perhaps because — these attacks were preventable by traditional means, and yet still were allowed to happen, we must be more suspicious than ever of programs initiated under the pretense of increasing security.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
I'm glad to hear Snowden speaking out. Most people don't know that the feds let the Boston bombing happen through their own incompetence. We were adequately warned by the Russians who were trying to keep a lid on their own Chechen terrorist population and only hoped that we would reciprocate if we had info about an attack on Russian interests.
You're almost starting to get it. It wasn't incompetence. Any of the key players fired over their "incompetence"? Didn't think so. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Yeah, your usual conspiracies-within-conspiracies worldview. Despite never being able to muster any solid evidence of any of these various Deep Conspiracy themes you subscribe. And I can do without you talking down to me.
We all should stop doing that to each other, really. But we get mad and it's the only way to lash out. Which doesn't justify it.
I thought it was stylishly snippy. Very haughty. : )
"And who are you", the proud lord said, "that I should bow so low? Only a cat of a different coat, that's all the truth I know. In a coat of gold or a coat of red a lion still has claws. And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours." And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that Lord of Castamere. But now the rains weep o'er his hall with no-one there to hear. Yes, now the rains weep o'er his hall, and not a soul to hear." - The Rains of Castamere
Any of the key players fired over their "incompetence"? Didn't think so. How about the massive "incompetence" that resulted in the 9/11 attacks - anyone fired for that? Despite never being able to muster any solid evidence... The evidence is there, your naive worldview will not allow you to accept it. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much I blew up the magazines in a Soviet naval base once, with my mind. I dreamt it, and it happened. True story.
The name WAS NOT misspelled! Tsarnayev or Tsarnaev are just two correct transliteration of Russian alphabet
I'm sure it really does seem that way to you.
Tsarnayev or Tsarnaev are just two correct transliteration of Russian alphabet That is true but is beside the point. Tamerlane Tsarnaev had to return to Russia to renew his expiring passport. Djokar was a naturalized American citizen but Tamerlane was not. Tamerlane returned to Russia to visit relatives for six months and to renew his passport. However, while he was there, he was hanging out with Chechen radicals, one of whom was involved in a shootout with police and killed about a month before Tamerlane returned. The Russian authorities knew Tamerlane had been hanging out with this guy and they wanted to question him. So he was in hiding the last month he was in Russia and never renewed his passport at all. And the Russians warned us at this time about Tamerlane and his connection to terrorist elements in Russia. Even so, Tamerlane managed to sneak back into an airport to return to America. And despite his lack of proper documents, he managed to give a false spelling to his name so he could slip back in. The truth is, as a person with supposed legit status here, he should never have been admitted with a false spelling at all. They should have required him to provide the correct official spelling of his name or forced him to return to Russia to face an official inquiry to what role, if any, he had in his friend's shootout with Russian police.
That is true but is beside the point. [...] person with supposed legit status here, he should never have been admitted with a false spelling at all. His true spelling is Джохар Анзорович Царнаев. If the agencies that cost tens of billions of dollars cannot figure out spelling problems, then we are doomed.
That is Djokar's name (though I didn't know his middle name was Anzorovich). It was Tamerlane who went to Russia. The point remains: he claimed to be a legal resident alien. He should have been required to provide the correct spelling of his name or he should have been sent back. For that matter, without his new passport, he shouldn't have been admitted at all.
Yes you are right. He should have provided the "correct spelling of his name". The problem is that there are a few correct ways to transliterate and no clear rule which one to chose. Perhaps he did not remember which one did he pick another time? Either way, the difference is cosmetic, and the Eastern European affairs agent who does not know that Tchaikovsky, Tschaikovsky, Chaykovskiy, Czajkowski is the same name, should swap his job with an Eastern European short order cook or a cabbie. And this is not an esoteric knowledge like Burma and Myanmar difference, that you should spend tens of billions dollars on. OK?
No, it isn't a problem. If he had official papers and residency, he would have a recognized legal spelling of his name which he could not just change on a whim, no more than you can just change your name without going to court to get it done officially. When he did not turn up in the database under the spelling of his name that he gave the DHS agents, he should have been detained and returned to Russia for questioning about his possible role in the shootout of his terrorist buddy with Russian security forces. But that didn't happen and Tamerlane then went on to bomb the Boston marathon.
In fact, it was Russian intelligence that alerted the FBI about about Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s links to militant Muslim terrorist groups; but the ostensibly inept U.S. intelligence community failed to do anything — due to a spelling error in his name. Whether that was actually the case or something darker might have been afoot remains unclear, but the point is the same: even when the appropriate governmental agencies have the information necessary to stop a terrorist attack, they fail to do so — every time.
#2. To: TooConservative (#1)
Most people don't know that the feds let the Boston bombing happen through their own incompetence.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#3. To: Deckard (#2)
You're almost starting to get it.
#4. To: TooConservative (#3)
And I can do without you talking down to me.
#5. To: Vicomte13 (#4)
And I can do without you talking down to me.
#6. To: TooConservative (#5)
I thought it was stylishly snippy. Very haughty. : )
#7. To: TooConservative (#3)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#8. To: Deckard (#7)
#9. To: Deckard (#0)
#10. To: Deckard (#7)
The evidence is there, your naive worldview will not allow you to accept it.
#11. To: A Pole, Deckard (#9)
The name WAS NOT misspelled!
#12. To: TooConservative (#11)
(Edited)
"Tsarnayev or Tsarnaev are just two correct transliteration of Russian alphabet"
#13. To: A Pole (#12)
(Edited)
His true spelling is Джохар Анзорович Царнаев.
#14. To: TooConservative (#13)
He should have been required to provide the correct spelling of his name or he should have been sent back.
#15. To: A Pole (#14)
The problem is that there are a few correct ways to transliterate and no clear rule which one to chose. Perhaps he did not remember which one did he pick another time?
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