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Title: Barack Obama lands in Cuba as first US president to visit in 88 years
Source: The Guardian
URL Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/20 ... shift-public-opinion-diplomacy
Published: Mar 20, 2016
Author: Dan Roberts
Post Date: 2016-03-20 18:18:08 by Stoner
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First presidential trip to Havana since Calvin Coolidge in 1928 Obama tweets: ‘¿Que bolá? Looking forward to meeting Cuban people’ Cuban police break up protest before Obama visit US-Cuba relations: a timeline

Obama Cuba President Barack Obama and his wife Michelle approach Cuba’s foreign minister Bruno Rodriguez at Havana’s international airport. Photograph: Carlos Barria/Reuters

Dan Roberts in Havana @RobertsDan

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Barack Obama descended on Cuba with a pomp unmatched by the Pope on Sunday, becoming the first American president to visit Cuba in nearly a century, and the first since a revolution led by Fidel Castro toppled a US-backed strongman in 1959.

As he arrived, Obama used a Cuban phrase meaning “what’s up?” when he tweeted: “¿Que bolá Cuba? Just touched down here, looking forward to meeting and hearing directly from the Cuban people.”

A giant American delegation, estimated at somewhere between 800 and 1,200, swept into Havana this weekend, intent on closing a final chapter in cold war history and sealing the diplomatic legacy of Obama’s presidency. Obama’s Cuba visit is latest step towards ‘new alliance of the Americas’ Read more

Obama and his family are staying in a grand embassy mansion, reputedly first conceived as a possible winter White House for Franklin Roosevelt, and more than half the size of the one they live in back in Washington.

The rest of the official party – ranging from the Tampa Bay Rays baseball team and expectant business executives, to some of the congressional leaders who helped broker the December 2014 deal to normalise relations – is scattered in hotels where the cost of rooms first doubled, then trebled to $600 a night, as the scale of the windfall became clear.

Hundreds of tourists have been bumped outside the city, and even the Rolling Stones, who initially wanted Revolution Square for their concert venue on Friday, had to work their date around the president’s arrival, which coincides with his daughters’ spring break.

For many American journalists, also on their first ever trip to an island just 90 miles from Florida, this is a Berlin wall moment: a step toward liberation worthy of Nelson Mandela, at whose funeral Obama and president Raúl Castro famously first shook hands. An image of Che Guevara and the slogan ‘Always toward victory!’ in Havana, Cuba. Facebook Twitter Pinterest An image of Che Guevara and the slogan ‘Always toward victory!’ in Havana, Cuba. Photograph: Rebecca Blackwell/AP

But while the US trade embargo has done much economic damage to the island, where even international ships were once forbidden from docking if they wanted future entry to American ports, Cuba was not hermitically sealed from the world like some Caribbean North Korea; it has been walled off primarily from the giant neighbour to the north. Which issue do you want US election candidates to discuss? Read more

Those who study the torturous history of diplomatic relations between the two countries argue the symbolic wall that will come down when Obama and Raúl Castro meet again on Monday is at least as much about changes in American politics as it is about the new Cuba.

“There is a lot of talk that the purpose of opening up the relationship is to bring about change in Cuba, I don’t think that’s the case,” said Kevin Casas-Zamora, a director of the Inter-American Dialogue thinktank in Washington DC, and a former vice-president of Costa Rica.

“Obama is doing this not for Cuba’s sake, but the US’s sake, because this had become an embarrassment for the US – a major obstacle in the relationship with Latin America.”

The sense that US politicians are like lost Japanese soldiers, stumbling from the jungle to discover the war ended decades ago, was compounded last week, when one of the fiercest critics of Obama’s strategy, Florida senator Marco Rubio, was thrashed in the state’s Republican presidential primary by a much more relaxed Donald Trump. Rubio, a Cuban American who called for more sanctions on Havana, dropped out of the race after losing his native state.

Though complicated by other factors, Rubio’s defeat in all of Florida’s 67 counties, except his home town of Miami, is partly confirmation of what opinion polls have been suggesting for some time: that antipathy toward Havana’s communist government among Cuban Americans in the state is no longer a decisive electoral issue, as it once was. Tourists in Old Cathedral Square in Havana. Facebook Twitter Pinterest Tourists in Old Cathedral Square in Havana. Photograph: Joe Raedle/Getty Images

The relative lack of backlash to Obama’s overtures came as a surprise even to White House officials, but a long-running poll by Florida International University has charted a steady decline in support for the deep freeze on diplomacy, particularly among younger Cuban Americans. The younger generation has largely arrived or grown up in the US concerned about economic, not political, issues and primarily wish to see the country of their parents prosper again.

Even in Miami, excitement, not apprehension, was the mood among some Cuban Americans who spoke to the Guardian about the president’s trip.

Yet opposition in Congress remains fierce. White House officials say another reason for going to Havana well before Obama leaves office, next January, is to try to prevent the rapprochement from going the way of other failed reconciliations.

“We want to make the process of normalisation irreversible,” said US national security adviser Ben Rhodes, who led an advance party to Havana this week, and also oversaw the secret talks in Canada that led up to the 2014 deal.

Though the president announced last Sunday that he believes Congress will finally lift the trade embargo once has he gone, even some of his own party are nervous that he has already offered too much too easily.

“When we see a photograph of the president of the United States laughing and shaking hands with the only dictatorship in the western Hemisphere, I will be thinking of Berta Soler of the Ladies in White and her fellow human rights and democracy advocates,” said New Jersey Democrat Bob Menendez in a blistering Senate speech last week, referring to a Cuban dissident leader and her followers.

Three years of delicate negotiations have acclimatised officials to the need to tread more carefully when Obama delivers a speech to the Cuban people on Tuesday – in the theatre where Calvin Coolidge spoke 88 years ago, and where the current US president will call on them to decide their own fate, but not to demand instant democracy. Spies, artificial insemination and the pope: how Cuba came in from the cold Read more

“The difference here is that in the past, because of certain US policies, the message that was delivered either overtly or implicitly suggested that the United States was seeking to pursue regime change,” Rhodes told reporters in Washington. “Obama will make clear that the United States is not a hostile nation seeking regime change.”

Jorge Domínguez, a Cuban born professor of international relations at Harvard University, agreed that an attempt to broker political reform inside Cuba would be flawed, even if it were Obama’s intention.

“On the larger question, which every president since Kennedy has faced: how to foster democracy and human rights – quid pro quo has been a perfect failure,” Domínguez told the Guardian. “Whenever it has been framed in that way, the Cuban government shuts down.”

Instead, US officials and commentators believe change is happening, but slowly and on Havana’s time. The Americans are hoping to encourage, not negotiate, further reform.

On the drive from the airport, where he lands at 4.30pm on Sunday, it would be hard for Obama to miss the various “Socialismo o muerte” (“Socialism or death”) slogans emblazoned on factory walls.

And when a White House press charter full of US-based journalists became one of the first direct flights from Washington to arrive the day before, the pilot was given a taste of the past: he was suddenly told Havana airport was closed just before the flight was due to land.

But there is undoubted excitement in Cuba about Obama’s arrival, which begins with a tour of Havana’s historic centre and a trip to the cathedral to thank the Catholic church for helping bring both countries back together.

Mistrust and anxiety remain on both sides, but the excitement was captured ahead of the visit in a White House skit with Cuba’s best known comedian, Luis Silva, an unusually edgy host for state television. Poking fun at the elderly cars and airport delays that await, his elderly character Panfilo, accidentally reaches Obama by telephone and offers to put the first family up in his own home instead.


Who GAS ? This is just another taxpayer vacation for Obunghole & the first wookie.

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#1. To: Stoner (#0)

Can we pay Cuba to keep him?

Justified  posted on  2016-03-20   19:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Justified (#1)

" Can we pay Cuba to keep him? "

It would be money well spent.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

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Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-20   20:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Stoner (#0)

this says it all .

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-03-21   13:07:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: redleghunter, TooConservative (#3)

ping

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-03-21   13:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tomder55 (#3)

Appropriate backdrop

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-21   13:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tomder55 (#3)

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If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2016-03-21   15:05:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Justified (#1)

" Can we pay Cuba to keep him? "

Maybe they can find something useful for him to do, like pick cotton.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-21   20:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tomder55 (#3)

Nice pic of Che.

Hey if he brings back some cigars for us I might forgive him. :)

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-03-21   23:02:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter (#8)

The left wing press was up all night finding pictures of Reagan ,GHW Bush ,and GW Bush in front of pictures of Lenin and Mao . The difference was that they were at official diplomatic events at the time . This pix of the emperor was taken during a sightseeing junket . He did not have to pose at that spot .

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-03-22   5:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: tomder55 (#9)

The left wing press was up all night finding pictures of Reagan ,GHW Bush ,and GW Bush in front of pictures of Lenin and Mao . The difference was that they were at official diplomatic events at the time . This pix of the emperor was taken during a sightseeing junket . He did not have to pose at that spot .

The contrast is evident. On the one hand you have Reagan who was on a mission to destroy what was left of global totalitarian regimes, so standing in front of pictures or statues of the ideology that you are warring against and won against is one thing.

With Obama, Che is a hero. It fits.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-03-22   8:10:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Justified (#1)

Can we pay Cuba to keep him?

I don't think they want him.

Raul warn't even on the tarmac for the meet & greet. Heh.

randge  posted on  2016-03-22   8:46:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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