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Title: Ron Paul: I couldn’t support Donald Trump as nominee (10X worse than Obama)
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Washington Times
URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news ... -support-donald-trump-nominee/
Published: Mar 18, 2016
Author: David Sherfinski
Post Date: 2016-03-18 22:32:54 by Hondo68
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Former Texas Rep. Ron Paul said Friday he couldn’t support GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump if Mr. Trump wins the party’s nomination, saying Mr. Trump’s views on the scope of executive authority could surpass those of President Obama. “No, I couldn’t do that,” Mr. Paul said on Fox Business Network when asked if he would support Mr. Trump, should the billionaire businessman win the GOP nomination. “He’s [the] opposite of a libertarian.” Mr. Paul, a three-time presidential candidate, said on foreign policy, Mr. Trump probably wouldn’t be that much different than former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, the Democratic front-runner. “I think the die-hard neoconservatives would not be that extremely unhappy with Hillary,” Mr. Paul said. “Trump is going to be the most efficient [at] using the executive orders,” he said. “He’ll say this is the way it is, you know. Obama was pretty arrogant. If you don’t do it, [the] Congress, I’ll write an order. Well, I think Trump [will] be 10 times worse on writing orders because he’s used to doing this, and he brags about it.” “He wants to be the boss. I’m not looking for a boss. We want somebody that will allow us to be our own boss, is what I think we should be looking for,” Mr. Paul said. 
Former Texas Rep. Ron Paul, father of Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., speaks in Richmond, Va., in this Nov. 4, 2013, file photo. (AP Photo/Steve Helber, File)
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#11. To: hondo68 (#0)
Is Trump perfect? Hardly. But 10X worse than Obama? That is quite an exaggeration! Trump will reverse flooding the country with illegals, and muslims, and he will reverse course on the one sided trade deals that the USA takes it in the shorts. That is 100X BETTER THAN OBUNGHOLE !!
Ron Paul believes that Trump will be 10X worse when it comes to Executive Orders. Maybe he will. But that's only because of the precedent set by Obama. Where was Ron Paul when Obama signed an EO protecting 5 million illegals? The non-enforcement of federal drug laws? Obama's 23 "executive actions" on guns? Obama's EO to raise the minimum wage for federal contractors? The EO to close Gitmo? But he gets his panties in a wad because Trump might do the same.
And that precedent was set previously by Bush.
Did he issue some that bothered you? Or are you just going by raw numbers?
Look, I realize I'm dealing with the festering carbuncle of LF here, but I'll respond to your idiocy anyway. All of the shit Obama has done to destroy this country could not have taken place without the Bush administration setting the stage.
The imperial presidency has expanded steadily throughout the post-WW II era. It could be argued that it has continued largely unabated since Dishonest Abe and the Civil War. So trying to blame Bush for what 0bama has done is pretty lame. You could always say of any president that "he only did it because so-and-so broke down the constitutional barriers, etc.". Even if there is some element of truth to it, a president's actions are his own, not those of any predecessor. They all choose to bend or break or ignore laws as they please and to try to use Congress and the courts to rubberstamp their will to power and desire to steamroll their opposition. This is true of all presidents. The truth is, 0bama would have done all these things with or without Bush. Bush has been a handy whipping boy for 0bama to use, along with the libmedia pundits and assorted Lefties.
#35. To: TooConservative (#29)
I would say it started very shortly after George Washington, if not immediately.
And Paultards.
Yes, since Abe. And he had to expand the power of government in the Civil War because the only way to break the chains of a quarter of the population was to attack the quarter of the population who were holding them in chains. There was no constitutional work around, because the Constitution itself was a fatally flawed document from the beginning, that had to effectively be suspended in order to get rid of slavery. What followed that suspension was a new government. It worked a bit better than the old one - we haven't had a civil war since, but it's still pretty bad. Our system doesn't work. Congress is structured in a way that guarantees its utter corruption, and the state governments are Mini-Me versions of the federal cesspool. The Supreme Court is utterly imperial, and slow, awkward, subject to capture, and perpetually corrupted by politics. That leaves the Executive, the President, as the only officeholder who has an actual range of motion in what he can do, because he controls the government agencies. So of course our government functions mostly as the result of executive orders. It's either that or non-function. Trump will be the most "executive" of Chief Executives. He will wield the power of executive control over the agencies effectively to impose his vision. His vision is reasonably good for a lot of Americans, so he will have a shot of doing something to advance his causes. Ron Paul, by contrasted, bellowed abstract inanities for years and accomplished nothing...but he DID manage to build a political fief like all the rest of the politicians do. His son got that lily pad and bully pulpit, but then smashed it to pieces in a stupid jihad against Trump.
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#12. To: Stoner (#11)
#22. To: misterwhite (#12)
But that's only because of the precedent set by Obama.
#23. To: Deckard (#22)
"And that precedent was set previously by Bush."
#27. To: misterwhite (#23)
Did he issue some that bothered you?
#29. To: Deckard (#27)
All of the shit Obama has done to destroy this country could not have taken place without the Bush administration setting the stage.
Replies to Comment # 29. The imperial presidency has expanded steadily throughout the post-WW II era. It could be argued that it has continued largely unabated since Dishonest Abe and the Civil War.
#36. To: TooConservative (#29)
Bush has been a handy whipping boy for 0bama to use, along with the libmedia pundits and assorted Lefties.
#48. To: TooConservative (#29)
The imperial presidency has expanded steadily throughout the post-WW II era. It could be argued that it has continued largely unabated since Dishonest Abe and the Civil War.
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