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Title: Anti-Trump forces contemplate the end
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Published: Mar 18, 2016
Author: Alex Isenstadt
Post Date: 2016-03-18 13:16:58 by calcon
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Views: 1876
Comments: 12

With Donald Trump marching toward a nomination that few believed he could win, Republicans once bent on defeating him are now reassessing their efforts to stop him.

Trump’s dazed and demoralized adversaries find themselves at a defining moment: After unloading millions of dollars in attack ads aimed at destroying the real estate mogul, after the party’s 2012 nominee delivered a no-holds barred speech targeting him, and after conservatives far and wide spoke out in unrelenting terms about how he could never be president, he’s more dominant than ever — with another rival vanquished, a massive delegate lead and his two remaining opponents looking increasingly like the next to go.

While some Republicans insist on standing firm against the businessman, more and more are contending that it’s time to reach a point of acceptance — and that a drawn-out primary or convention battle could be worse.

“I’m soul-searching right now,” said Penny Nance, president and CEO of Concerned Women for America, who last year explored the possibility of launching an anti-Trump campaign. “There’s still a pathway to defeating him, but it’s getting harder to see that.”

“We’re at a turning point,” conceded Randy Kendrick, wife of Arizona Diamondbacks owner Ken Kendrick and a major contributor to the stop-Trump effort. “It’s a fork in the road — a political fork.” 20160317_erick_erickson_1_AP_1160.jpg

The talks about how to deal with Trump’s ascendance took on fresh urgency on Thursday. Some were intent on keeping up the fight. Prominent conservative activists gathered behind closed doors at the Army-Navy Club in downtown Washington, just a few blocks from the White House, to discuss how Trump could be defeated — even if it means waging a third-party campaign to run against him. The meeting drew around two dozen figures, including prominent activist Erick Erickson, conservative columnist Quin Hillyer, South Dakota businessman Bob Fischer and former George W. Bush adviser Bill Wichterman.

As attendees filtered out of the conference, one said they had agreed that Trump could still be stopped — and that they would do whatever was necessary to make it happen.

“The consensus was that we need a unity ticket of some sort, and we’ll let the candidates work out who the unity ticket is,” Hillyer told POLITICO, floating the possibility of an alliance between Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Ohio Gov. John Kasich.

Others, however, appeared more resigned. At a posh resort in Palm Beach, Fla. — just minutes from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate — many of the Republican Party’s biggest donors discussed whether to continue shelling out millions on an anti-Trump offensive that so far has done little, if anything, to halt his rise. Many of those gathered, including New York hedge-fund manager Paul Singer and members of the Chicago Cubs-owning Ricketts family, have been the primary funders of Our Principles, a super PAC that spent heavily to defeat Trump, plastering Florida and other states with TV ads that portrayed him as a heartless businessman. Several of the donors reiterated their hope that Cruz or Kasich could still somehow win, sources familiar with the gathering told POLITICO. But others indicated they would be open to supporting Trump in the general election.

Some in the anti-Trump movement now concede that the push to defeat him hasn’t worked — and may be backfiring. In the final days leading up to the critical Florida primary, outside groups devoted to defeating Trump, including Our Principles PAC, spent more than $10 million against him only to see him notch a double-digit win and knock native son Marco Rubio out of the race.

During Tuesday night’s victory speech, Trump mocked the “vicious,” “horrible” and “mostly false” ads run against him, telling a meandering anecdote about how several of them had aired during the broadcast of a golf tournament at his Trump National Doral club. “Oh what a day that was,” he said. “What a disaster.”

While the anti-Trump groups have outlined a state-by-state bid to deprive him of the 1,237 delegates he needs to secure the Republican nomination and to force a contested convention in Cleveland — what would be the GOP’s first since 1976 — there’s growing worry that such an event could be traumatic for the party. Trump has said there could be “riots” if he’s denied the nomination — and while many Republicans, including Kasich, have condemned those remarks as

“You’re going to push the big red button and blow up the party, at least in the short term,” said Ned Ryun, president of American Majority, a conservative group. “It’s asinine, it really is.”

“If it’s not close, how much stomach do I have for a contested convention?” asked Nance.

The possibility of a Cleveland fight has drawn the attention of the Republican National Committee, which is tasked with overseeing the planning for the convention. Over the past several weeks, the RNC has been inviting staffers, in addition to operatives from other Republican organizations and committees, to a series of briefing sessions in which contested convention scenarios were outlined. The briefing sessions were described by three sources as informational in nature, with a heavy focus on logistical planning. One compared them to the hurricane planning the committee did before the 2012 convention in Tampa.

Another factor: Though Trump remains wildly unpopular with the establishment, many in the party hierarchy now lack a figure to support. While Kasich has a virtually impossible path to the nomination, Cruz, who has devoted his Senate career to poking his finger in the establishment’s eye, is seen as an unpalatable choice. One Senate leadership aide said that lawmakers had been trying to reach out to Cruz in recent days, but had been unable to get their phone calls returned or had been rebuffed by Cruz’s top aides. Only two senators — South Carolina’s Lindsey Graham and Utah’s Mike Lee — have come forward to endorse Cruz even as Rubio collapsed.

The intense, all-encompassing focus on Trump has arguably distracted the party from what should be its central mission: defeating Hillary Clinton.

One senior GOP operative lamented that with so many of the party’s donors focused on taking down Trump, little had been done to create the infrastructure needed to combat the former secretary of state. Republican strategists believe the party will need to raise $1 billion to $2 billion for the general election.

“What it really comes down to for me is that he’s the last choice, and he’s still the last choice,” said Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of Susan B. Anthony List, an anti-abortion group that has come out strongly against Trump. “I also know there’s a very big difference between the person who is the last choice and Hillary Clinton.”

The confusion in the party’s top ranks has left Republicans divided about whether to keep up the anti-Trump offensive at all, or line up behind him. AP_447837092422.jpg

On Wednesday, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, an outspoken Trump critic who had endorsed Rubio, threw her support to Cruz, saying she was praying that that the Texas senator “can pull through this.” Yet that same day, Florida Gov. Rick Scott wrote a Facebook post in which he urged Republicans to rally around Trump, saying it was time for the party to begin preparing for the general election.

“There’s lots of differences, mistrust and angst about this,” said Al Cardenas, a former American Conservative Union chairman. “This dilemma may have to play out a bit longer.”

As long as Trump continues to win, though, some are convinced the opposition to him will start to crack. The mogul is poised for another strong performance on Tuesday, when he’s seen as the favorite in the winner-take-all Arizona primary. He also is expected to rack up a number of delegates in Utah, which votes the same day.

And even Trump’s famously high unfavorable numbers are turning around: Gallup’s tracking poll of Republicans and leaners shows that his net favorable numbers have surged 14 percentage points in the past two weeks, vaulting him past Cruz.

“It’s coming together in my opinion and will continue to do so,” said Jonathan Barnett, an influential Republican National Committee member from Arkansas. “Everyone likes a winner.”

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#1. To: All (#0)

“Everyone likes a winner.”

Yep and it's been a long damn time since we had one. Forget the neocon scum bush, he was worse then hillary would be.

calcon  posted on  2016-03-18   13:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: calcon (#1) (Edited)


"Everyone likes a winner.”

Yep and it's been a long damn time since we had one

In what grading system is D- a winner?

[ (NY Attorney General). Schneiderman filed a civil lawsuit against the now- defunct Trump University in 2013 alleging that it exploited Mr. Trump’s celebrity status to persuade people to enroll in expensive courses that failed to deliver on their promises. Trump University defrauded more than 5,000 students in New York out of thousands of dollars each, according to the complaint, by billing itself as a real-estate school and charging students as much as $35,000 without having proper licensing.]
www.wsj.com/articles/trum...as-witness-in-trial- over-real-estate- school-1458325124

And was (D-)rumpf a Republican or a Democrat in 2013? It's so hard to keep track.

VxH  posted on  2016-03-18   17:07:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: VxH (#2)

n what grading system is D- a winner?

I not sure but wasn't that your grade at the Ron Paul school of "Losing the Elections".

Only bigger loser than paul is his simpleton son rand

calcon  posted on  2016-03-18   17:18:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: calcon (#3)

I not sure but wasn't that your grade at the Ron Paul school of "Losing the Elections".

Only bigger loser than paul is his simpleton son rand

Nope, not a Paul supporter - his "what's wrong with Iran having nuclear weapons" thing was sort of a turn off for sane people.

Meanwhile in (D-)rumpf/Mudville:

[Donald Trump gets an ‘F’ for a video he posted to YouTube purporting to tell the “truth” about Trump University, the real-estate program that has been the subject of three ongoing lawsuits alleging fraud. In the video, Trump holds up a sheet of paper showing that the Better Business Bureau gave Trump University an “A” rating, claiming it proves that what he said during the March 3 debate was correct. That’s false. As we wrote in our debate story, the most recent BBB rating for Trump University that we could find for the program was a “D-” in 2010 — which is when the school stopped taking new students.]
www.factcheck.org/2016/03/trump-universitys-d-rating/

Wooooosh goes mighty Donnie's Bat!

VxH  posted on  2016-03-18   17:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: VxH, calcon (#4)

Meanwhile in (D-)rumpf/Mudville:

Keep beating that dead horse.

http://fortune.com/2016/03/04/it-doesnt-matter-how-the-better-business-bureau-graded-trump-university/

It Doesn’t Matter How The Better Business Bureau Graded Trump University

by Anne VanderMey
Fortune
March 4, 2016, 4:42 PM EDT

Even Starbucks has a D-.

During the Republican debate on Thursday night, the candidates devoted a lot of time to what grade Trump University received from the Better Business Bureau. Was it an A? Was it a D-? Did it change? Why?

Here’s a sample exchange:

TRUMP: (lightly edited for brevity) We have an “A” from the Better Business Bureau. And, people like it. … Many of the people that are witnesses did tremendously well, and made a lot of money…

RUBIO: … That’s false…

TRUMP: … By taking the course.

KELLY: Go ahead, Senator.

TRUMP: You’re going to see, you don’t know…

RUBIO: … The Better Business Bureau gave it a D-.

Lost in the melee, though, was this simple fact: It really doesn’t matter very much whether the now defunct Trump University won the BBB seal of approval. Although its name connotes authority, the BBB isn’t a government agency. It’s also not a consumer protection agency: Being accredited by the organization requires paying a fee. And it most certainly is not a U.S. Department of Education university accreditation agency.

While the BBB is not commenting on any aspect of the Trump story, its gotten its fair share of blowback over the years, mainly over the allegation that its grading system is pay-to-play. In 2013, a local chapter was forced out amid much scandal, after a 2010 20/20 investigation revealed the chapter had been essentially extorting local businesses. Last year, CNNMoney reported the names of several allegedly fraudulent businesses with A-ratings and noting that many major companies (the ones that don’t bother to work with the BBB) get have terrible grades. Starbucks, for example, has a D-.

In other words, the BBB works like many other rating agencies: It’s funded by the fees it gets from the businesses it rates. The potential conflict of interest inherent in that common structure has been pilloried plenty in the wake of the financial crisis.

To hear Trump tell it himself, his poor rating was not due to underlying issues with the business, but instead because Trump University did not care enough about sending the information the BBB requests:

TRUMP: … The only reason that is was a “D” was because we didn’t care — we didn’t give them the information…

RUBIO: … A third of the people (INAUDIBLE)…

TRUMP: … When they got the information it became an “A”…

Soon after this exchange, Fox News moderator Megyn Kelly noted that Trump University’s latest publicly available grade from the BBB was, indeed, a D-. In fact, according to a BBB statement, the business’s grade had fluctuated between D- and A+ (it’s not currently rated). No matter how or when it got that D, or whether it was warranted, Trump’s claim that he didn’t care enough about the grade to do the work to get an A is completely believable.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-03-18   17:57:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nolu chan (#5) (Edited)

Even Starbucks has a D-.

Starbucks doesn't have an upcoming Fraud trial in the middle of a presidential election, Nolo Genius.

On a day of Super Tuesday wins for Donald Trump, he suffered a loss in New York — a state appeals court gave a green light to a civil fraud claim against the GOP front-runner and his Trump University.

In a unanimous ruling, a four-judge panel of the state Appellate Division said the state attorney general’s office is “authorized to bring a cause of action for fraud” — despite the bloviating billionaire’s claims to the contrary. 
www.nydailynews.com/news/...rules-g-trump- university-fraud- lawsuit-proceed-article-1.2548924


VxH  posted on  2016-03-18   20:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: VxH (#6)

Starbucks doesn't have an upcoming Fraud trial in the middle of a presidential election, Nolo Genius.

Weak change of subject.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-03-19   0:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: nolu chan (#7)

Weak change of subject.

Weak character is evidently why you brought up Starbucks instead of acknowledging (D-)rumpf's upcoming FRAUD trial.

VxH  posted on  2016-03-23   11:04:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: VxH (#8)

Weak character is evidently why you brought up Starbucks

Reading is not your strong suit. I did not bring up Starbuck's, Fortune magazine did, demonstrating the irrelevance of BBB ratings and their pay-for-play business model.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-03-23   18:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: nolu chan (#9) (Edited)

I did not bring up Starbuck's

Whose post was that pasted in again Nolo Genius?

Let's ask the Way Back Machine:

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...gi? ArtNum=45219&Disp=5#C5

FAIL.

Show some spine for a change and at least have the character to own the misdirecting crap you post.

VxH  posted on  2016-03-23   19:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: VxH (#10)

Whose post was that pasted in again Nolo Genius?

It was an article from Foretune magazine, Marcobot.

http://fortune.com/2016/03/04/it-doesnt-matter-how-the-better-business-bureau-graded-trump-university/

It Doesn’t Matter How The Better Business Bureau Graded Trump University

by Anne VanderMey
Fortune
March 4, 2016, 4:42 PM EDT

Even Starbucks has a D-.

During the Republican debate on Thursday night, the candidates devoted a lot of time to what grade Trump University received from the Better Business Bureau. Was it an A? Was it a D-? Did it change? Why?

Here’s a sample exchange:

TRUMP: (lightly edited for brevity) We have an “A” from the Better Business Bureau. And, people like it. … Many of the people that are witnesses did tremendously well, and made a lot of money…

RUBIO: … That’s false…

TRUMP: … By taking the course.

KELLY: Go ahead, Senator.

TRUMP: You’re going to see, you don’t know…

RUBIO: … The Better Business Bureau gave it a D-.

Lost in the melee, though, was this simple fact: It really doesn’t matter very much whether the now defunct Trump University won the BBB seal of approval. Although its name connotes authority, the BBB isn’t a government agency. It’s also not a consumer protection agency: Being accredited by the organization requires paying a fee. And it most certainly is not a U.S. Department of Education university accreditation agency.

While the BBB is not commenting on any aspect of the Trump story, its gotten its fair share of blowback over the years, mainly over the allegation that its grading system is pay-to-play. In 2013, a local chapter was forced out amid much scandal, after a 2010 20/20 investigation revealed the chapter had been essentially extorting local businesses. Last year, CNNMoney reported the names of several allegedly fraudulent businesses with A-ratings and noting that many major companies (the ones that don’t bother to work with the BBB) get have terrible grades. Starbucks, for example, has a D-.

In other words, the BBB works like many other rating agencies: It’s funded by the fees it gets from the businesses it rates. The potential conflict of interest inherent in that common structure has been pilloried plenty in the wake of the financial crisis.

To hear Trump tell it himself, his poor rating was not due to underlying issues with the business, but instead because Trump University did not care enough about sending the information the BBB requests:

TRUMP: … The only reason that is was a “D” was because we didn’t care — we didn’t give them the information…

RUBIO: … A third of the people (INAUDIBLE)…

TRUMP: … When they got the information it became an “A”…

Soon after this exchange, Fox News moderator Megyn Kelly noted that Trump University’s latest publicly available grade from the BBB was, indeed, a D-. In fact, according to a BBB statement, the business’s grade had fluctuated between D- and A+ (it’s not currently rated). No matter how or when it got that D, or whether it was warranted, Trump’s claim that he didn’t care enough about the grade to do the work to get an A is completely believable.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-03-25   1:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: nolu chan (#11)

FAIL again spineless maggot.

VxH  posted on  2016-03-26   12:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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