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Title: After Trump pulls out, Fox News cancels Republican debate
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0WI2H0
Published: Mar 17, 2016
Author: Megan Cassella
Post Date: 2016-03-17 11:55:11 by VxH
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Views: 34691
Comments: 156

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Republican presidential debate scheduled for next week in Utah has been canceled, host Fox News said on Wednesday, after party front-runner Donald Trump told the network he would not participate.

Trump, who has clashed with Fox News throughout his campaign, told the network in an interview on Wednesday he would not appear at the event, scheduled for Monday, because he thought the Republicans had "had enough debates."

Ohio Governor John Kasich said afterward he would also skip the debate unless Trump changed his mind and decided to come.

U.S. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, the third remaining Republican candidate seeking the party's nomination for the Nov. 8 presidential election, criticized Trump on Twitter, calling him #DuckingDonald and urging his supporters to tell Trump to attend.

"He's scared to debate," Cruz said in an interview on Fox News. "He's afraid of being challenged."

Fox News, part of the Twenty-First Century Fox Inc (FOXA.O) broadcast media and entertainment company controlled by Rupert Murdoch, earlier this week announced the debate, to be held in Salt Lake City, its latest in the primary season. Utah holds its presidential primary next Tuesday.

"Ted Cruz has expressed a willingness to debate Trump or Kasich - or both. But obviously, there needs to be more than one participant," Fox News Channel’s executive vice president of news, Michael Clemente, said in a statement. "So the Salt Lake City debate is canceled."

After the cancellation, Trump posted on Twitter that he would make a "big speech" the night of the debate, "but I wish everyone well."

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#76. To: SOSO (#70)

But it seems that you are one of those the ends justify the means type, aka a DRat.

I am not a Democrat. Never have been. Am not likely to become one as long as the Democrats have their current policies on abortion.

FDR's economic policies were the right thing to do. He inherited a disaster inflicted by Republican Administrations - a familiar theme, and he stabilized the situation and gave the country hope.

FDR didn't drag us into the war. The Japanese bombed us, remember?

You hard-core partisan Republicans are just like hard-core partisan Democrats: immune to reality, immune to the truth, living in your fantasies, and more and more out of touch with the people. That's why your precious Establishment is falling to pieces in the face of Trump. All the Establishment has is guys like you.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-18   12:43:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: SOSO (#72)

Belief should be based on evidence.

Are you a Christian?

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-18   12:43:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: misterwhite (#74)

In post #13, you claimed that Trump committed to this debate.

Now you stoop to lying? Here is exactly what I said in post #13:

"It appears that he did. Why do you say that he didn't?"

Do you understand what the word appears means?

"You can either back that up or keep quiet."

I have clearly and convincingly backed up my claim that Trump lied about knowing about the debate. That is obvious to any intellectually honest person. But as I say, there is no hope for Trump dupes.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   12:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Vicomte13 (#77)

Belief should be based on evidence.

Are you a Christian?

I have faith in God, a gift He has given to me. A leap of faith is required for such belief. There is no leap of any kind required to understand, to know, that Trump lied about not knowing about the debate before he accepted another speaking engagement.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   12:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: SOSO (#78)

"Do you understand what the word appears means?"

Yep. It appears you were using a weasel word.

"I have clearly and convincingly backed up my claim that Trump lied about knowing about the debate.

You were claiming that Trump committed to the debate and backed out. When you couldn't back that up, you now claim he knew about the debate.

You can't back that up either.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-18   12:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Vicomte13 (#76)

You hard-core partisan Republicans are just like hard-core partisan Democrats: immune to reality, immune to the truth, living in your fantasies, and more and more out of touch with the people.

It is exactly my endeavors to discover the truth that led me to change my registered party affiliation. I haven't been a registered REP in years. I haven't support the national or my state REP party in years.

As for you, you have stated many times on this forum that you strongly prefer the DRats to the REPs. In fact I seem to recall that you stated that you hated the REP party. I recall that you even stated that you supported Obama even though he supports late term abortions. You have been a major hypocrite on your precious issue of abortion. You best do a reality check on yourself.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   12:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: misterwhite (#80)

"Do you understand what the word appears means?"

Yep. It appears you were using a weasel word.

If admitting up front that I was not certain, that I didn't have the evidence, to know for sure that he commited to the debate is weasel in your world, then guilty as charged.

"you now claim he knew about the debate.

You can't back that up either."

I most certainly did back that up. Read the posts again.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   12:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: SOSO (#82)

"I most certainly did back that up."

All you showed is that he could have known. You morphed that into he did know.

I call bullshit.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-18   13:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: misterwhite (#83)

All you showed is that he could have known. You morphed that into he did know.

I call bullshit.

Call it want you want claiming that he didn't as late as March 9 is what is pure BS. And you know that even though you are a Trump dupe.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   14:00:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: SOSO (#81) (Edited)

As for you, you have stated many times on this forum that you strongly prefer the DRats to the REPs.

You have a reading comprehension problem.

I have stated that I strongly prefer the Democrats to Republicans on economic matters and poverty relief.

I hate the Republican Party because they are liars.

I hate the Democrats because they're babykillers.

If you recall me saying that I "supported Obama" you are now doing what you accuse Trump of doing: lying. I voted for McCain (really, I voted for Sarah), and I voted for Romney. I held my nose and voted for Romney, because he was obviously a fraud, but I still considered him better than an avowed babykiller. At least Romney felt the need to lie about his real position.

You're making things up now, purposely obtuse.

And your political platform is shot full of holes and sinking. You're not getting anything you want, you're not going to, you're unappeasable and obnoxious, and you can't keep your facts straight. You went from truths - like "Vicomte hates the Republicans" to wholesale lies, like "Vicomte supported Obama", and you believe them.

Bitter, mean, and defeated - you're the old guy shaking his fist as the kids passing by in the street.

Sucks to be you.

You're not going to enjoy President Trump. But I will.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-18   14:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Vicomte13 (#61)

unless you consider saying "I will hire good managers" is a plan.

It IS a plan.

So is wishing upon a star. That doesn't make either a GOOD plan.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-18   14:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Vicomte13 (#65)

We promised Egypt foreign aid equal to two-thirds of whatever we gave to Israel. I bet even I could successfully "negotiate" a treaty like that.

It established and kept the peace. Egypt was the only Muslim country that had the population and power to actually defeat Israel

Remind me again why that is any of our business or concern.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-18   15:05:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: SOSO, misterwhite, All (#69)

I am telling you that Trump lied. But you have so hopelessly been conned by Trump

Trump didn't con him,he conned himself.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-18   15:09:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Vicomte13 (#85)

You're not going to enjoy President Trump. But I will.

LMAO No you won't.

And there are posts on LF were you said you supported Obama positions over REP's. They are out there but I am not going to take the time to find them, it would just be a waste of time. I didn't say that you voted for him, voting is not the only means/way of support. So bone up on your reading comprehension. Perhaps you should spend more time understanding current languages rather than dead ones.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   15:25:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: sneakypete, misterwhite, vicomte13, All (#88)

I am telling you that Trump lied. But you have so hopelessly been conned by Trump

Trump didn't con him,he conned himself.

There is no hope for a Trump dupe.

If it comes down to Hillary vs. Trump I will vote Trump. I have just had it with both parties and more so with the character of We The People. F*ck it all. Let's destroy this MF and remake it from the ground up. Let Trump destroy the REP party. Let Hillary and the DRats destroy what's left of the country.

If we can't save the system or We The People from themselves then I want Trump to f*ck everything up for everybody. My wife and I will survive and live out the rest of our days relatively untouched by the impending corruption. I think that our daughter will likely do so as well but I am not all certain about my grandkids as I think they will be screwed over - they are white you know.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   15:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: SOSO (#90)

F*ck it all. Let's destroy this MF and remake it from the ground up. Let Trump destroy the REP party. Let Hillary and the DRats destroy what's left of the country.

If we can't save the system or We The People from themselves then I want Trump to f*ck everything up for everybody.

This is precisely the sort of dynamic, positive thinking we so desperately need from today's conservatives! Thanks for giving us the pep talk!

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-18   15:59:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Vicomte13 (#91)

If we can't save the system or We The People from themselves then I want Trump to f*ck everything up for everybody.

This is precisely the sort of dynamic, positive thinking we so desperately need from today's conservatives! Thanks for giving us the pep talk!

Yeah, Sparky, go ye forth and make America great again.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   16:22:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: SOSO (#69)

"I am telling you that Trump lied."

Without any proof, what you're telling me is that you think he lied. And you're not even sure what he lied about.

Amateur.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-18   16:24:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: SOSO (#90)

... but I am not all certain about my grandkids as I think they will be screwed over - they are white you know.

Sorry about your luck, honky.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-03-18   16:31:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: SOSO (#92)

Yeah, Sparky, go ye forth and make America great again.

Will do.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-18   16:36:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: misterwhite (#93)

Without any proof, what you're telling me is that you think he lied. And you're not even sure what he lied about.

Amateur.

Amatuer. LMOA. If the evidence was presented in a court of law there is no reasonable doubt that Trump lied about not knowing of the Fox debate prior to March 9th. That's proof enough.

But if you want more evidence here is some:

"A source close to the matter explained that the network was slow to confirm the debate’s cancellation because Clemente was still trying to persuade Trump to participate. Trump himself admitted at the recent CNN debate that he was aware more debates were on the horizon. “I think they want to do two more debates, and I guess I’m pretty much okay with it,” he told CNN’s Chris Cuomo.

This is not the first debate Trump has elected to skip. He boycotted January’s Fox News debate, hosted by his media nemesis, Megyn Kelly. He continued to criticize her on Twitter on Tuesday."

Try and keep hope alive, Sparky. But there is no hope for a Trump dupe.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   16:41:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Fred Mertz (#94)

... but I am not all certain about my grandkids as I think they will be screwed over - they are white you know.

Sorry about your luck, honky.

That's OK, I still enjoy my privilege.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   16:49:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: SOSO, misterwhite, calcon, vicomte13 (#30)

"The debate would clash with a “very important speech” he is due to give, Trump told ‘Fox and Friends’. The Republican front-runner is set to speak to the annual conference of the pro-Israel lobby group American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), an event he said “was scheduled a week ago.”

This is dated March 16. One week ago is March 9. The debate was scheduled in Feb. He claims that on March 9 he did not know of the debate in Utah that was scheduled in March and scheduled another event. In other words Fox scheduled a debate in Utah for March 20 and hadn't told Trump about it by Match 9. That is too incredulous to believe. Trump again by his own words seems to be caught in a lie here.

An additional debate was penciled into the debate schedule by the GOP in February, without a firm date, time, venue, or sponsor; or commitment by any participant.

It was announced on March 14.

http://deadline.com/2016/03/fox-news-channel-nabs-march-21-gop-debate-in-salt-lake-city-1201719939/

Fox News Channel Nabs March 21 GOP Debate In Salt Lake City

by Lisa de Moraes
March 14, 2016 10:18am

Fox News Channel will host its fourth Republican presidential primary debate March 21 from Salt Lake City. The two-hour debate will be presented live from the Salt Palace Convention Center at 9 PM ET.

[...]

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/14/media/fox-news-gop-debate-donald-trump/index.html

Fox News announces March 21 GOP debate

by Dylan Byers
@CNNMoney
March 14, 2016: 1:12 PM ET

The Republicans will hold another debate, whether Donald Trump likes it or not.

Fox News announced Monday that it will host a March 21 debate in Salt Lake City, which was penciled into the calendar just last month. It will be the 13th debate of the Republican presidential primary contest.

[...]

On March 14, the date, time, venue and sponsor were announced. It was to be on Monday, March 21; not on Sunday, March 20.

Two days later, on March 16, came the announcement that the event had been canceled.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-to-skip-next-republican-debate/

By Reena Flores
CBS News
March 16, 2016, 9:15 AM

Fox News cancels next Republican debate after candidates bolt

[...]

nolu chan  posted on  2016-03-18   17:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: SOSO (#96)

"The network was slow to confirm the debate’s cancellation because Clemente was still trying to persuade Trump to participate."

If Trump had previously agreed to participate in the debate -- as you say he did -- that's an odd way to phrase it.

If you're correct, shouldn't that read, "... the network was slow to confirm the debate’s cancellation because Clemente was still trying to persuade Trump to participate not to cancel"?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-18   17:37:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: nolu chan, SOSO (#98)

Wait just a minute! That means Trump didn't lie!

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-18   17:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: nolu chan (#98)

On March 14, the date, time, venue and sponsor were announced. It was to be on Monday, March 21; not on Sunday, March 20.

That doesn't mean that Trump and the other candidates weren't notified well before that date by either Fox of the RNC. Does it really make sense to you that in February the RNC agrees to a debate to be hosted by Fox in Salt Lake City on March 20 or 21 and neither the RNC nor Fox contact any of the candidates for participation until March 14? This in the middle of a heated campaign season and knowing of the AIPAC convention being held at the same time? Really?

If either Cruz or Kasich say that they also were not notified prior to March 9 or if the RNC or Fox say the didn't notify Trump prior to March 9 I will apologize for calling Trump a liar AND I will vote for him if he gets the nomination.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   17:57:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: misterwhite (#99)

On March 14, the date, time, venue and sponsor were announced. It was to be on Monday, March 21; not on Sunday, March 20.

LMAO. Do you live in a cave? Trump reneged on his commitment to Fox earlier and boycotted that debate. That's no lie. And Fox continued to try and persuade Trump to "participate" in that debate.

Nice try. But there is no hope for a Trump dupe.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   18:01:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: misterwhite (#100)

That means Trump didn't lie!

Wrong.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   18:01:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: misterwhite (#100)

Wait just a minute! That means Trump didn't lie!

SJWs always double down. Therefore, SOSO will double down.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-03-18   18:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: SOSO (#102)

"Trump reneged on his commitment to Fox earlier and boycotted that debate."

And he kept his commitment to Fox to debate in Detroit on March 3rd. So?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-18   18:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Roscoe, misterwhite (#104)

Therefore, SOSO will double down.

Have no fear, I will always double down on truth.

The is no hope for a Trump dupe.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   18:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: SOSO (#106)

I will always double down on truth.

With an emotional lie.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-03-18   18:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Roscoe (#107)

I will always double down on truth.

With an emotional lie.

What is my lie?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   18:24:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Roscoe (#107)

"With an emotional lie."

Hey, hey. It's not a lie if he believes it.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-18   18:25:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: SOSO (#108)

If the evidence was presented in a court of law there is no reasonable doubt that Trump lied about not knowing of the Fox debate prior to March 9th.

Double down.

BTW:

Roscoe  posted on  2016-03-18   18:27:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: misterwhite (#109)

It's not a lie if he believes it.

True that.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-03-18   18:28:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: misterwhite, roscoe (#99)

If you're correct, shouldn't that read,

Here is the headline of this thread "After Trump pulls out, Fox News cancels Republican debate."

If he never accepted the invitation shouldn't that read Trump declines invitation rather than pulls out? Pulling out literally mean that he was once in, doesn't now?

LMAO.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   18:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: SOSO (#112)

shouldn't that read Trump declines invitation rather than pulls out?

Yes. Nice foot shot.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-03-18   18:31:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Roscoe (#110)

If the evidence was presented in a court of law there is no reasonable doubt that Trump lied about not knowing of the Fox debate prior to March 9th.

Double down.

Where is the lie? Where is the untruth? C'mon now, you are a smart guy and should be able to expose little old me.

I remind you that like posters, symbols are for the symbol minded.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-18   18:34:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: SOSO (#114)

Where is the lie?

Some of your MoveOn buddies?

"If the evidence was presented in a court of law there is no reasonable doubt that Trump lied about not knowing of the Fox debate prior to March 9th."

Triple down.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-03-18   18:36:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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