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Title: After Trump pulls out, Fox News cancels Republican debate
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URL Source: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0WI2H0
Published: Mar 17, 2016
Author: Megan Cassella
Post Date: 2016-03-17 11:55:11 by VxH
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Views: 34646
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Republican presidential debate scheduled for next week in Utah has been canceled, host Fox News said on Wednesday, after party front-runner Donald Trump told the network he would not participate. Trump, who has clashed with Fox News throughout his campaign, told the network in an interview on Wednesday he would not appear at the event, scheduled for Monday, because he thought the Republicans had "had enough debates." Ohio Governor John Kasich said afterward he would also skip the debate unless Trump changed his mind and decided to come. U.S. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, the third remaining Republican candidate seeking the party's nomination for the Nov. 8 presidential election, criticized Trump on Twitter, calling him #DuckingDonald and urging his supporters to tell Trump to attend. "He's scared to debate," Cruz said in an interview on Fox News. "He's afraid of being challenged." Fox News, part of the Twenty-First Century Fox Inc (FOXA.O) broadcast media and entertainment company controlled by Rupert Murdoch, earlier this week announced the debate, to be held in Salt Lake City, its latest in the primary season. Utah holds its presidential primary next Tuesday. "Ted Cruz has expressed a willingness to debate Trump or Kasich - or both. But obviously, there needs to be more than one participant," Fox News Channel’s executive vice president of news, Michael Clemente, said in a statement. "So the Salt Lake City debate is canceled." After the cancellation, Trump posted on Twitter that he would make a "big speech" the night of the debate, "but I wish everyone well."
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#11. To: misterwhite, VxH, All (#10)
Are you saying that Trump never committed to this debate? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Yes. Are you saying he did?
Yes. Are you saying he did? It appears that he did. Why do you say that he didn't? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
What makes you say that? Trump thought the CNN debate was the last one. Actually it was, until Fox decided last month to add another one. Trump had already scheduled the AIPAC speech. Nowhere did I read that Trump agreed to the date and agreed to debate. Just the opposite. Trump thought the debates accomplished nothing -- other than a ratings boost for the networks and endless commentary on who "won" with the best put-down of the other candidates. Tell me one thing you learned about any of the candidates in the last "debate" that you didn't know already.
I know but we'll never let you rinos do that with the GOPe buttboy cruz. GO TRUMP
You really do miss Not Witch. I can tell. : )
International leaders don't debate each other in front of voters. They negotiate in secret. Trump's move here is wise: he is reducing the risk to himself of a bad debate performance, and denying Cruz the opportunity to express himself to the public for a good portion of two hours. Cruz excels at debates. Trump, therefore, has opted to deprive Cruz of the free press and the opportunity to excel. And Trump has won the point, because Kasich played along. Which means that there are TWO politicians who pulled out, so it's not just Trump. This is strategic behavior, and it's smart. It reduces Trump's risk and reduces Cruz's ability to get his message out. That's how Trump is going to deal with Putin: intelligently and strategically.
WHen you are the stronger party, leaving the table and ending the discussion means that the weaker party ends up with bupkis. Cruz needs these debates. They give him airtime. They give him the opportunity to shine in a format that his debate team background favors. And a forum run by Fox will always be hostile to Trump. It's free publicity for Cruz. Trump just wrecked all of that, at some risk, but Kasich's second reduced any damage to Trump. Cruz advocates are mad. Nobody else cares. A battle was offered. The commanding general of the stronger side declined battle: why risk a defeat when you're winning. Trump's move deprives Cruz of air. Now Cruz has to spend money to be heard, and he doesn't get the chance to poke at Donald on the same stage. So yes, Trump would deal with Putin the same way he is dealing with Cruz: strategically, in the way that is most advantageous to Trump. Trump is not looking to be fair. He is looking to beat Cruz. And not debating Cruz on Fox makes it easier for Trump to beat Cruz. Strategic behavior based on strengths, weaknesses and risk assessments: it's what you want to see in Commanders.
Trump's move deprives Cruz of air. Now Cruz has to spend money to be heard, and he doesn't get the chance to poke at Donald on the same stage. Cruz should read "The Art of War" because Trump sure has.
I doubt any of these guys could debate Cruz heads up in an honest debate with legitimate questions. However, if Fox had not canceled the debate, i fully believe Cruz would have had no problem in getting in a heated debate with his podium. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
I have no doubt either. I'm sure Trump saw that too, which is why - the debates having winnowed the field down to him and Cruz - he wisely decided that it's time to stop debating. The people are tired of the debates anyway. It's just entertainment, but with lots of airtime for Cruz, it would have gotten more serious, and Cruz would have been able to score some points. So Trump chose to do something else that will get him full free press coverage, and that will leave Cruz in the dark. I was listening to Mark Levin tonight. Sounds like he wants his followers to go kamikaze: if they can't have Cruz, then nobody. Fold arms, stay home. Hillary wins.
That in a narrowed field Trump can't answer with specifics of his policy and action plans. All he does is repeat himself over and over again with meaningless lines such as "it's gonna be great", "believe me", "we will win again", "I'm very rich", etc. He has never articulated how he was going to do this and will get buried in the next REP debate with Cruz and Kasich where there is more time for him to kill. And he will get killed in a one-on-one debate with even Hillary if he can't do better on this score up to now. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Both parties gets bupkis. No-one wins. At best it's a tie. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
We've been hearing this silliness for a long time against trump. It just doesn't matter how bad the criticism, he just keeps getting more and more votes each day.
Is that any way to treat the next president.
The problem with these "battle royale" debates is the winner is the one who gets the best "zingers." When it gets down to a couple of people, the logic of the argument becomes much more apparent.
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
What makes you say that? Perhaps he didn't. I can't find anything on the web that says one way or another. But I find it strange that Fox would announce the debate without having an indication that the parties will attend. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
We've been hearing this silliness for a long time against trump. It just doesn't matter how bad the criticism, he just keeps getting more and more votes each day. At some point he will have to meat on the bones, especially if he wishes to keep those REPS that did not vote for him. OTOH We The People bought empty BS before, the last time being "hope and change". потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Kasich deprived Cruz the air time. IMO Kasich is in the tank for Trump. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
What makes you say that? Perhaps he didn't. I can't find anything on the web that says one way or another. "The debate would clash with a “very important speech” he is due to give, Trump told ‘Fox and Friends’. The Republican front-runner is set to speak to the annual conference of the pro-Israel lobby group American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), an event he said “was scheduled a week ago.” This is dated March 16. One week ago is March 9. The debate was scheduled in Feb. He claims that on March 9 he did not know of the debate in Utah that was scheduled in March and scheduled another event. In other words Fox scheduled a debate in Utah for March 20 and hadn't told Trump about it by Match 9. That is too incredulous to believe. Trump again by his own words seems to be caught in a lie here. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
You don't honestly think we give a rat's butt do you?
The Kasich campaign will die from lack of oxygen if he fears debating Cruz or saying anything but memorized crap about mailman that is not news. He will get no coverage.
Kasich would rather not be seen, than be seen for a couple of hours debating Ted Cruz one on one. His Marcoesque minispeeches won't cut it.
LMAO. Of course you do otherwise you wouldn't be trying to rationalize Trump's lying. This is living in your mind rent free. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Keep letting the media do your thinking for you.
Wow, everyone is afraid of Cruz? Well then: I need to take another look at Cruz. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Says the P.T. Barnum dupe. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Trump can and has. They are not judged on collegiate debating points. Trump talks to the people as if they were downing beers at a bar or just sitting around. He connects with people. Cruz is a more refined debater, but is delivery does not connect in the manner that Trump does with the audience. Cruz would win if only they were being judged by a gaggle of debate judges. Trump v. Hillary would be interesting where Hillary shouts and screeches, and maybe barks, and Trump is conversational.
Just Kasich, understandably. One-on-one, center stage, he cannot stand to the side like a wallflower and chime in from time to time about mailmen.
"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H L. Mencken "On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." - H. L. Mencken потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
He wasn't able to offer any specific solutions during when the field was big,either. He has no actual answers because he has no plans. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
You don't think it is more important that Trump talk with people who love and want to protect Israel,than it is he talk with people who love America? ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
WOW! You really are drinking the Trump bathwater,aren't you? Trump is the Joy Behar of debaters. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
He wasn't able to offer any specific solutions during when the field was big,either. But he was allowed to hide in plain sight then. He is clearly chicken sh*t to face Cruz in a debate. What does he think he would do against Hillary? Like her or not, believe her or not, she at least has mouthed specifics of how she will achieve her objectives. Perhaps Trump will decline to debate her too? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
They are close friends,so he knows and so does she. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Been there. Done that. His name was George W. Bush. He was an utter failure as President. He plunged us into foreign wars, lost, and blew up the US economy. He was sort of the reverse of FDR. FDR took over a country that was sunk in an economic depression and disarmed in the face of rising threats. He armed the country, thereby bringing the country out of the Depression, fought a world war, and won it. Bush took over a country at peace, militarily predominant, with a budget surplus and a booming economy. He took us to war in several places, lost, left us massively in debt and in an economic Depression. Bush was a greater failure as President than Jimmy Carter. We got our moron.
He has no actual answers because he has no plans. He does have a plan. His plan is to become president. That's about it. He's pretty much a content-free pol and likes to take as many positions on issues as possible, then back away from a few of the more offensive ones when he gets called on it. His other main strategy is the Trump-outrage-of-the-week. Before the wave of criticism from his last mini-scandal fades away, he emits some new bombast to keep the pundits talking and keep the free media interviews and coverage coming his way. This is a way of controlling the media that was largely perfected by the Xlinton machine in the Nineties. "We have a scandal problem? Well, we need a new scandal. And then another." Trump feeds on this scandal mill he has himself created. And it generates his ongoing free media, recently valued at $2 billion in free media coverage.
Let me see. Cruz makes a cogent, sensible argument on an issue in a very articulate manner. Trump responds by calling Cruz a fucking liar, liar pants on fire. Advantage: Trump I guess if you score a debate on those terms, Trump will always win. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
But he was allowed to hide in plain sight then. He is clearly chicken sh*t to face Cruz in a debate. Absolutely. What does he think he would do against Hillary? She is no brighter than he is. The difference is she has been campaigning since the 70's,and all Trump has done was talk trash in front of employees and other captive audiences where he could get away with babbling nonsense because no follow-up questions were ever allowed. If there is anything amazing about Bubbette! is that she for a career politician she still sucks at such epic levels. She only made it this far because she was lucky enough to marry the right hillbilly,and ride his coat tails to the top. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Been there. Done that. His name was George W. Bush. Forgetting Jim-mah Cawtur? He was sort of the reverse of FDR. FDR took over a country that was sunk in an economic depression and disarmed in the face of rising threats. He armed the country, thereby bringing the country out of the Depression, fought a world war, and won it. Complete and utter bullshit. Roosevelt's policies EXTENDED the economic depression. The ONLY thing that pulled the US out of the Depression were the wars in Asia and Europe. Americans were put back to work manufacturing war related items to sell to countries who couldn't produce enough to supply their needs. Roosevelt desperately wanted to get us involved in WW-2 because he was terrified his good friend Joe Stalin and Communism would lose without US involvement. Putting Americans back to work came in a very distant second for him,his commie wife/cousin,and his cabinet. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
W Bush was worse than Jimmy Carter. In Carter's era, the Soviet's invaded Afghanistan, and thereby began their trajectory into the dustbin of history. But on W's watch WE invaded Afghanistan. 14 years on, we're still there, still bleeding, and the Taliban are still in control of the countryside. So, Carter saw the USSR step over a line and start to die. W started to kill US. Much worse result under Bush. Carter got the Egyptians and Israelis to sign a formal peace agreement. No other President has achieved that. On Carter's watch we had some bad inflation. On W's watch we entered into the worse Depression since 1929, and we're still not out of. W's performance and legacy were much worse than Carter's.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest1) Fox added this debate only last month. 2) Trump had already promised to speak at the AIPAC conference.
#12. To: SOSO (#11)
"Are you saying that Trump never committed to this debate?"
#13. To: misterwhite (#12)
"Are you saying that Trump never committed to this debate?"
#14. To: SOSO (#13)
"It appears that he did."
#15. To: VxH, hondo68 (#6)
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Why bother when the RINOs are going to try and install him at the convention?
#16. To: SOSO (#7)
NB - The Not Witch just cast a spell on Trump wishing that he will go away.
#17. To: VxH (#6)
What's he going to do when Putin calls him out?
#18. To: SOSO (#9)
I wonder if this is how he would deal with Putin or anyone else over the negotiating table. Yeah, that's it, we'll just leave now because we had enough discussion.
#19. To: Vicomte13 (#18)
A battle was offered. The commanding general of the stronger side declined battle: why risk a defeat when you're winning.
#20. To: nolu chan (#5)
Kasich turned down a couple of hours of free airtime rather than debate Cruz heads up.
#21. To: no gnu taxes (#20)
#22. To: misterwhite (#14)
Tell me one thing you learned about any of the candidates in the last "debate" that you didn't know already.
#23. To: Vicomte13 (#18)
WHen you are the stronger party, leaving the table and ending the discussion means that the weaker party ends up with bupkis.
#24. To: SOSO (#22)
And he will get killed in a one-on-one debate with even Hillary if he can't do better on this score up to now.
#25. To: hondo68, VxH (#2)
#26. To: misterwhite (#14)
#27. To: misterwhite (#14)
"It appears that he did."
#28. To: calcon (#24)
And he will get killed in a one-on-one debate with even Hillary if he can't do better on this score up to now.
#29. To: Vicomte13 (#18)
Trump's move deprives Cruz of air.
#30. To: misterwhite, calcon, vicomte13, All (#27)
#31. To: SOSO (#30)
#32. To: VxH (#6)
Why bother when the RINOs are going to try and install him at the convention?
#33. To: SOSO, Vicomte13 (#29)
IMO Kasich is in the tank for Trump.
#34. To: calcon (#31)
You don't honestly think we give a rat's butt do you?
#35. To: SOSO (#34)
#36. To: nolu chan, Vicomte13, calcon, AKA Stone, All (#33)
You don't honestly think we give a rat's butt do you?
#37. To: calcon (#35)
Keep letting the media do your thinking for you.
#38. To: no gnu taxes (#20)
I doubt any of these guys could debate Cruz heads up in an honest debate with legitimate questions.
#39. To: SOSO (#36)
Wow, everyone is afraid of Cruz?
#40. To: nolu chan, no gnu taxes, vicomte13, AKA Stone (#38)
Trump talks to the people as if they were downing beers at a bar or just sitting around. He connects with people.
#41. To: SOSO (#22)
That in a narrowed field Trump can't answer with specifics of his policy and action plans.
#42. To: calcon (#31)
You don't honestly think we give a rat's butt do you?
#43. To: nolu chan (#38)
Trump talks to the people as if they were downing beers at a bar or just sitting around. He connects with people. Cruz is a more refined debater, but is delivery does not connect in the manner that Trump does with the audience. Cruz would win if only they were being judged by a gaggle of debate judges.
#44. To: sneakypete, vicomte13, calcon, AKA Stone, misterwhite (#41)
That in a narrowed field Trump can't answer with specifics of his policy and action plans.
#45. To: SOSO (#44)
What does he think he would do against Hillary?
#46. To: SOSO (#40)
"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." - H. L. Mencken
#47. To: sneakypete, SOSO, Vicomte13 (#41)
He wasn't able to offer any specific solutions during when the field was big,either.
#48. To: nolu chan (#38)
#49. To: SOSO (#44)
He wasn't able to offer any specific solutions during when the field was big,either.
#50. To: Vicomte13 (#46)
(Edited)
"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." - H. L. Mencken
#51. To: sneakypete (#50)
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