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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: Donald Trump is unstoppable
Source: the week
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Published: Mar 16, 2016
Author: linker
Post Date: 2016-03-16 12:19:04 by calcon
Keywords: None
Views: 13028
Comments: 52

When historians tell the story of the 2016 election, they may choose to break down the Republican race into a succession of fleeting moments or moods — each of them expressing a wish for Donald Trump to disappear.

Long before a single vote had been cast but months after Trump rose to the top of every opinion poll, there was the "Rubio is the virtual frontrunner" moment. That was followed by the "Trump's support will vanish once the voting begins" consensus. Then, as the primaries and caucuses began and Trump took the lead in delegates and never lost it, we entered the phase that could best be described as "Trump will start faltering as soon as more of his opponents drop out." That lasted for weeks, as one by one, his opponents dropped out.

And yet, Trump kept winning more states. He racked up more delegates than anyone else. Along the way there was the brief "Trump is losing!" boomlet, followed by the emerging conventional wisdom of the past couple of weeks: Even if he finishes in first place, Trump will fail to win more than a plurality of delegates, falling short of the magic number (1,237) needed to become the automatic nominee.

And that brings us to The Present Moment: A contested convention awaits!

No, it doesn't.

Like every other Trump Doomsday Prediction of the past nine months, this one is an expression of denial. The depressing and exceedingly ominous fact is that Donald Trump is winning. Not everywhere. Not always by an enormous margin. But he's beating his rivals with remarkable consistency and with more than enough decisiveness to get the majority of delegates he needs to win the nomination outright. That, and not some fanciful contested convention in which the non-Trump majority miraculously comes together to thwart the man with the plurality of delegates in his pocket, is by far the more likely scenario.

This would have been true even if Trump hadn't won Florida, Illinois, and North Carolina on Tuesday. But that outcome makes his ultimate victory far more certain. Not only did he pick up at least 150 delegates on Tuesday (that's a conservative estimate, and will go way up if Trump maintains his razor-thin lead in too-close-to-call Missouri). But John Kasich's victory in his home state of Ohio, while depriving Trump of the state's 66 delegates, ensures that Kasich will stay in the race for at least a few weeks longer, continuing to divide the non-Trump vote in Arizona and Utah on March 22 and maybe Wisconsin on April 5 and beyond.

The longer Trump gets to face a divided field, the longer Cruz has to wait to consolidate the non-Trump vote. And the more victories and delegates Trump will pile up.

And there's a very big pile ahead.

Trump already has at least 621 pledged delegates, and will rack up more as Tuesday's votes are finalized. He already has more than half of what he needs to clinch the nomination. Between now and the last primaries on June 7, there will be eight (state- or district-level) winner-take-all contests — in Arizona, Wisconsin, Delaware, Maryland, Indiana, California, New Jersey, and South Dakota. That's another 439 delegates. If Trump won all of them, he'd have 1,060 — just 177 delegates short of what he needs.

Now Trump probably won't win all of those states — and he probably won't win all of the delegates in all of the states he does win, because of the quirks of district-level delegate allocation. But that leaves a long list of proportional states where Trump will surely win significant numbers of additional delegates. Cruz may win big in Utah, New Mexico, and few other places. (Mitt Romney's attack on Trump will carry a lot of weight among the many Mormons in the former, while the latter borders Cruz's home state of Texas.) But what about Trump's home state of New York (with 95 delegates), and Maryland, and Pennsylvania, and West Virginia, and Oregon, and Nebraska, and Washington, and Connecticut, and Rhode Island? Maybe Cruz will carry Nebraska and another state or two. But will Trump really lose enough states to fail to earn the delegates he'll need?

Nothing we've seen over the past couple of months gives us any reason to conclude that. Trump has swept the South, but he's also won Massachusetts, Nevada, Michigan, and Illinois. Even the mantra recited endlessly by Trump skeptics — he's only capable of winning a third of the Republican electorate! — has begun to be proven wrong. His vote share has now climbed to 37.1 percent, and he's won several major states with considerably higher totals, most notably the high-population and demographically heterogeneous Florida, with just under 46 percent of the vote.

With Trump facing only two opponents now, that total will climb further. It will likely remain a low number by historical standards, but he's approaching the level of party support attained by Democrats Walter Mondale in 1984 (38.3 percent) and Jimmy Carter in 1976 (40.2 percent). Again: low. But not unprecedented.

None of which means we should be cheering on Trump's march to the nomination of his party. His campaign is tearing the Republican Party apart and injecting a form of authoritarian thuggishness into American politics that should send a chill down the spine of anyone who cares about the nation's liberal democratic traditions and civic norms.

But that doesn't mean we should allow ourselves to give in to more rounds of wishful thinking. Trump is winning. And it's hard to see how that winning can be stopped.

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#2. To: calcon, All (#0)

But that doesn't mean we should allow ourselves to give in to more rounds of wishful thinking. Trump is winning. And it's hard to see how that winning can be stopped.

Not hard at all. All that needs to happen is to have a brokered convention. Trump could easily lose that. Now this might result in the end of the GOP as we know it and a DRat sweep in all three branches of the government but what the hell, we are all domed anyhow.

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-16   12:37:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: SOSO, calcon (#2)

Not hard at all. All that needs to happen is to have a brokered convention. Trump could easily lose that.

If the GOPe indicates such an attempt, Trump and Cruz can combine to take a very public dump on the establishment's head. It does not appear that anyone can stop Trump from reaching a majority 1237 and wrapping up a first-ballot win.

The party establishment whores should be spending their time preparing resumes. The people have resoundingly rejected their candidates and are not listening to their bleats.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-03-16   12:46:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nolu chan (#3)

It does not appear that anyone can stop Trump from reaching a majority 1237 and wrapping up a first-ballot win.

It is very unlikely that Trump will have enough votes on the first ballot.

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-16   12:50:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SOSO (#5)

It is very unlikely that Trump will have enough votes on the first ballot.

Cruz/Kasich would need to win a majority of the remaining delegates to stop Trump. Where are they going to win that majority?

Trump has 646, Cruz 397, and Kasich 142.

1,103 are available. 1,237 are needed.

Kasich is mathematically eliminated.

Trump needs 591 of 1,193 or 49.5% of the remainder.

Just who is going to win 51.6% and stop him? Who is going to do it, and where. Cruz' best states are behind him. Kasich's only state is behind him.

Kasich and Rubio combined did not reach a majority in ANY state, not even Ohio. Give Kasich all of Rubio's slim support, and where does he win?

Trump beat Cruz in all five state yesterday.

81.4%, MO, Trump/Cruz
69.1%, IL, Trump/Cruz
77.0%, NC, Trump/Cruz
62.8%, FL, Trump/Cruz

49.7%, OH, Kasich/Rubio
48.7%, OH, Trump/Cruz

OH
Kasich 46.8%
Trump 35.6%
Cruz 13.1%
Rubio 02.9%
Other 1.5%

MO
Trump 40.8%
Cruz 40.6%
Kasich 10.1%
Rubio 06.1%
Other 02.3%

IL
Trump 38.8%
Cruz 30.3%
Kasich 19.7%
Rubio 08.7%
Other 2.5%

NC
Trump 40.2%
Cruz 36.8%
Kasich 12.7%
Rubio 07.7%

FL
Trump 45.7%
Rubio 27.0%
Cruz 17.1%
Kasich 06.8%
Other 3.3%

nolu chan  posted on  2016-03-16   15:24:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: nolu chan (#10)

Kasich and Rubio combined did not reach a majority in ANY state, not even Ohio.

Neither did Trump. The past represented a four plus person race only winnowed down to a four person race the last go around. It is now a three person race. Who do you think Rubio's supporters will vote for going forward? I don't think Trump will get many of them. Perhaps many will just not vote. It all remains to be seen.

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-16   15:39:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: SOSO (#11)

[nc #10] Cruz/Kasich would need to win a majority of the remaining delegates to stop Trump. Where are they going to win that majority?

CRICKETS.

[SOSO #11] It is now a three person race. Who do you think Rubio's supporters will vote for going forward?

It is irrelevant. For the sake of argument, you can give Kasich all non-Trump/Cruz delegates and it would still be meaningless. Kasich would then rise to 333.

Kasich has been shut out in 19 contests: SC, AL, AK, AR, GA, MN, OK, TN, TX, LA, HI, ID, MS, WY, FL, MO, MP, PR, GU.

In over 30 contests, he has won one (1). Saturday, his other results were 3rd, 3rd, 3rd and 4th.

Where is Kasich going to win? There are only 19 states left, none named Ohio.

22 March -- AZ, UT

05 April -- WI

19 April -- NY

26 April -- CT, DE, MD, PA, RI

03 May -- IN

10 May -- NE, WV

17 May -- OR

24 May -- WA

07 June -- CA, MT, NJ, NM, SD

Those are not the most Cruz-friendly states either. The South is done and Trump won the Cruz territory.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-03-16   20:34:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: nolu chan (#13)

Cruz/Kasich would need to win a majority of the remaining delegates to stop Trump. Where are they going to win that majority?

I never claimed that either would. All I claimed was (1) Trump hasn't yet won 50% of any of the state primaries and caucus votes, and, (2) Trump will likely not get the 50% + 1 he needs before the Convention. So neither Cruz or Kasich jave to win a majority they just have to stop Trump from getting it. If Trump runs the table he will get the nomination (maybe).

Who do you think Rubio's supporters will vote for going forward?"

..........CRICKETS..............

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-16   23:15:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: SOSO (#25)

Who do you think Rubio's supporters will vote for going forward?"

An even split between Hillary and Kasich.

Hondo68  posted on  2016-03-16 23:20:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: SOSO (#25) (Edited)

I never claimed that either would. All I claimed was (1) Trump hasn't yet won 50% of any of the state primaries and caucus votes, and, (2) Trump will likely not get the 50% + 1 he needs before the Convention.

What you said at #5 was, "It is very unlikely that Trump will have enough votes on the first ballot."

Based on what is it very unlikely? When asked where Cruz/Kasich are likely to succeed in winning the delegates required to stop Trump, you go mute or change the subject.

There is no reason to forecast Kasich going on a winning spree. Trump has been beating Cruz time after time in areas favorable to Cruz. They are going to areas favorable to Trump.

It is down to three candidates. To stop Trump, Cruz and Kasich have to take a win enough of the remaining delegates to do it.

Trump just beat Cruz in another six out of six contests. Kasich won his home state and finished 3rd or lower in the other 5 contests.

Trump leads Cruz by 2+ million popular votes. He Kasich by nearly 5 million.

7,536,465 Trump
5,477,506 Cruz
3,364,453 Rubio
2,722,398 Kasich

Kasich may need to hustle to get a rules change in order for his name to ever be placed in nomination. He has a rule 40(b) problem.

(b) Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight (8) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination. Notwithstanding any other provisions of these rules or any rule of the House of Representatives, to demonstrate the support required of this paragraph a certificate evidencing the affirmative written support of the required number of permanently seated delegates from each of the eight (8) or more states shall have been submitted to the secretary of the convention not later than one (1) hour prior to the placing of the names of candidates for nomination pursuant to this rule and the established order of business.

If the establishment moves for a contested convention, blocking both Trump and Cruz, that will only force a Trump/Cruz merger which would control around 80% of the delegates.

As for Kasich, a candidate who has been mathematically eliminated from 1st or 2nd has a tough time building a following based on a single home state win. But Kasich should rise to not finish lower than third, as long as he can beat other. In Florida, he only beat other by 3.5%.

Who do you think Rubio's supporters will vote for going forward?"

..........CRICKETS..............

I answered that irrelevant question. "It is irrelevant. For the sake of argument, you can give Kasich all non-Trump/Cruz delegates and it would still be meaningless."

Most of that meager lot will go to Kasich. Even if Kasich got all the Rubio votes, it is not enough. As stated above, Trump has about 1.5 million more than the two of them combined. Cruz comes close to matching the two of them together.

Arithmetic suggests Kasich must take votes from Trump or Cruz to be competitive. Attitudes suggest Trump and Cruz supporters would rather drop dead than vote for another establishment tool.

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