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Title: We choose the nominee, not the voters: Senior GOP official
Source: cnbc
URL Source: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/16/we-c ... oters-senior-gop-official.html
Published: Mar 16, 2016
Author: Matthew J. Belvedere
Post Date: 2016-03-16 10:40:35 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 2152
Comments: 11

Political parties, not voters, choose their presidential nominees, a Republican convention rules member told CNBC, a day after GOP front-runner Donald Trump rolled up more big primary victories.

"The media has created the perception that the voters choose the nomination. That's the conflict here," Curly Haugland, an unbound GOP delegate from North Dakota, told CNBC's "Squawk Box" on Wednesday. He even questioned why primaries and caucuses are held.

Haugland is one of 112 Republican delegates who are not required to cast their support for any one candidate because their states and territories don't hold primaries or caucuses.

Even with Trump's huge projected delegate haul in four state primaries Tuesday, the odds are increasing the billionaire businessman may not ultimately get the 1,237 delegates needed to claim the GOP nomination before the convention.

This could lead to a brokered convention, in which unbound delegates, like Haugland, could play a significant swing role on the first ballot to choose a nominee.

Most delegates bound by their state's primary or caucus results are only committed on the first ballot. If subsequent ballots are needed, virtually all of the delegates can vote any way they want, said Gary Emineth, another unbound delegate from North Dakota.

"It could introduce Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, or it could be the other candidates that have already been in the race and are now out of the race [such as] Mike Huckabee [or] Rick Santorum. All those people could eventually become candidates on the floor," Emineth said.

House Speaker Paul Ryan, who decided not to run for the White House this year, said in a CNBC interview Tuesday he won't categorically rule out accepting the GOP nomination if a deadlocked convention were to turn to him. But on Wednesday, a Ryan spokeswoman said the speaker would not accept a Republican nomination for president at a divided convention.

Democrats experienced the last true brokered presidential convention to go beyond the first ballot in 1952. Republicans came close at their 1976 convention.

"The rules haven't kept up," Haugland said. "The rules are still designed to have a political party choose its nominee at a convention. That's just the way it is. I can't help it. Don't hate me because I love the rules."

Haugland said he sent a letter to each campaign alerting them to a rule change he's proposing, which would allow any candidate who earns at least one delegate during the nominating process to submit his or her name to be nominated at this summer's convention.

If the GOP race continues at the same pace, Trump would likely have a plurality of delegates. So far, he's more than halfway to the 1,237 magic number.

Trump split Tuesday's winner-take-all primaries in Florida and Ohio.

The real estate mogul dominated in Florida over Sen. Marco Rubio, who dropped out of the race after losing his home state.

But Trump lost Ohio to the state's governor, John Kasich. Trump also won Illinois and North Carolina. He held a slim lead over Texas Sen. Ted Cruz in Missouri early Wednesday.

Emineth, also a former chairman of the North Dakota Republican Party, told "Squawk Box" in the same interview that he's concerned about party officials pulling "some shenanigan."

"You have groups of people who are going to try to take over the rules committee," he warned. "[That] could totally change everything, and mess things up with the delegates. And people across the country will be very frustrated."

"It's important that the Republican National Committee has transparency on what they're doing [on the rules] going into the convention and what happens in the convention," he continued. That's because of "all the votes that have been cast in caucuses and primaries. Don't disenfranchise those voters. Because at the end of the day, our goal is to beat Hillary Clinton or whoever their [Democratic] nominee is in November."

Emineth said he's worried that frustration would discourage Americans in the general election from voting Republican.

— CNBC's Lori Ann LaRocco contributed to this report.

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#1. To: cranky (#0)

Too bad someone didn't bring this up when Dole, McCain and Romney were leading in their primaries.

But why would they?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-16   10:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite (#1)

" Political parties, not voters, choose their presidential nominees, a Republican convention rules member told CNBC "

This guy, and his fellow travelers need to sleep with the fishes.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-16   13:51:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Stoner (#2)

"Political parties, not voters, choose their presidential nominees, a Republican convention rules member told CNBC"

Really? Then why are we voting in the primaries? Why are we taking time out of our day, driving through the snow and rain, standing in line, to vote for our choice if you're going to ignore it?

If you want to choose a presidential nominee in some smoke-filled backroom so you feel all self-important, be my guest. And good f**king luck with that.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-17   10:07:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#3)

" Then why are we voting in the primaries? "

Damn good question.

It is just political theater, to create the illusion that We the People have a voice. When in reality, we do not.

If they screw Trump, and ram some dickhead on us, they will end up like McStain and his twin Romney. THEY WILL LOSE. Then if Hillary is not in jail, she will be Pres, or Bernie.

Then the supposed "conservatives" will blame the Trump supporters, the people that stayed home & did not vote for their dickhead of choice. Just like they still blame the people that would not vote for the stain & Romney for Obama.

If it is Hillary or Bernie, then the US will REALLY turn into hell.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-17   10:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Stoner (#4)

They gave us Dole and when we objected they said, "Hold your nose and vote for him".

Then they gave us McCain and when we objected they said, "Hold your nose and vote for him".

Then they gave us Romney and when we objected they said, "Hold your nose and vote for him".

Now, WE'RE giving THEM Trump and guess what WE say?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-17   10:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite (#5)

" Now, WE'RE giving THEM Trump and guess what WE say? "

Yep! And if they do not like it, I say tuff shit!

And they will do everything they can to cause him to lose.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-17   10:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Stoner (#4)

"If they screw Trump, and ram some dickhead on us"

And who would that be? Seriously.

I hear Republicans trashing Trump, but the one thing I never hear from any of them is who they'd prefer instead. Some mythical "true conservative" who would maintain the status quo and not "rock the boat" so we can have another 8 years of empty promises?

I really believe the GOP prefers to control either Congress or the White House -- but not both. This way they can do nothing (their true objective) and blame it on others. Controlling both means they have to pass legislation and risk losing popularity or, worse, an invitation to a D.C cocktail party.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-17   11:00:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Stoner (#6)

"And they will do everything they can to cause him to lose."

If I were Trump I'd be making a list. And, once elected, go after everyone on that list with a vengeance.

Anonymous declares "total war" on Trump? Make it a #1 priority to have the FBI and the NSA track these hackers down and put them in federal prison for 10 years. They flee the country? Get Interpol and the CIA involved and hunt them down like dogs.

Tef Poe incites blacks nationwide to riot? 10 years. Federal prison. F**k him.

Hollywood elites threatenening to move to another country if Trump is elected? State department pulls their passports and deports them. Same thing with this mythical "25%" who say they'd also leave. Good f**king riddance.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-17   11:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#7)

" And who would that be? Seriously. "

I have no idea. Kaisch thinks it will be him, some have speculated Romney, or Jeb bush, or Ryan, etc. I have no idea, but never underestimate their being stupid.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-17   11:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Stoner (#9)

"I have no idea."

No one does. No different than the politicians who said "Throw out Gaddafi" with no replacement in mind. "Throw out Saddam Hussein" with no replacement in mind.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-17   11:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: misterwhite (#7)

" If they screw Trump, and ram some dickhead on us"

And who would that be? Seriously. "

MW, my point is that right now, it would appear the public wants Trump or Cruz. If the establishment wants someone else, they will manipulate the system that they control, and ram someone on us. WHOEVER it is, will be some dickhead that they control, and the GOPe will tell us "fuck you all".

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-20   12:52:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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