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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: Conservatives to White Working Class: Drop Dead
Source: NY Magazine
URL Source: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence ... e-working-class-drop-dead.html
Published: Mar 15, 2016
Author: Jonathan Chait
Post Date: 2016-03-15 13:49:53 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 1869
Comments: 18

The modern Republican Party is an awkward contraption that harnesses a politics of white ethno-nationalism to a policy agenda dominated by the Ayn Rand–inflected anti-statism. Donald Trump has exploited the wedge between the party’s voters and the ideologists of its master class, placing the latter in an awkward spot. In the face of this threat, there are many possible responses for an advocate of traditional Goldwater-Reagan conservatism to make. The most bracingly honest may come from National Review’s Kevin Williamson, whose antipathy for Trump has expanded to include Trump’s white working-class supporters.

Williamson’s latest column, which his NR colleague David French enthusiastically endorses, has attracted some notoriety for its display of contempt (rendered in Williamson's florid, trademark-infringing imitation Buckley prose) for low-income white voters who make up a major share of Trump’s base. They are losers, druggies, layabouts, and so on. The solution Williamson offers them is to move out of their pathetic dying towns. (“The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets.” Etc.)

What’s most interesting about this argument is not the specificity with which Williamson details his conclusion, but his willingness to follow his premises all the way. To the libertarian true believer, capitalism is a value system rather than merely a tool. Capitalism means economic freedom. People are entitled to their economic rights (meaning their market income) in exactly the same way as they are entitled to their political rights. “Freedom in economic arrangements is itself a component of freedom broadly understood, so economic freedom is an end in itself,” as Milton Friedman famously put it.

Republican doctrine reflects the conviction that the main evil of modern government is to excessively punish the rich and reward their inferiors. All of the Republican presidential candidates, Trump included, propose massive tax cuts that would confer about 40 percent of their benefit on the highest-earning one percent (who earn about a fifth of the income). Williamson briefly considers, and immediately dismisses, any reconsideration of a domestic agenda out of regressive tax cuts. “It is really quite difficult to design federal tax cuts that benefit people who do not pay much in the way of federal taxes,” he writes. Oh, the working class doesn’t benefit from an abolition of the estate and capital-gains tax? Well, then, we’re out of ideas.

This is absurd if you think of economic policy in pragmatic terms. But it is perfectly sensible if you think of economic policy as a moral framework built around the protection of natural economic rights. “They failed themselves,” Williamson sneers about poor whites. The marketplace hasn’t failed the white working class; the white working class has failed capitalism.

Measured in political terms, this is a suicidal mentality for the Republican Party. But who says ideas must be measured in political terms?

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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

Right, f*ck you folks but be sure and vote for our candidate that's not trump.

that's going to work out good for them.

calcon  posted on  2016-03-15   13:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: calcon (#1)

" Right, f*ck you folks but be sure and vote for our candidate that's not trump.

that's going to work out good for them. "

LOL !!

Yeah, King Louis XVI & Marie Antoinette had the same attitude. It did not work out good for them! LOL !

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-15   14:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: calcon (#1)

good and we see no restrictions on dumping the GOPe for douching our man trump

Trump IS their candidate. You just can't see it because you don't want to see it because you will finally have to face up to the fact that our political system is thoroughly corrupt,and the only valid option left is revolution.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-15   15:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Willie Green (#0)

All of the Republican presidential candidates, Trump included, propose massive tax cuts that would confer about 40 percent of their benefit on the highest-earning one percent (who earn about a fifth of the income).

Cruz' plan is a simple flat tax . No one is favored . Any other plan that is tiered or bestows favors to any "group" of people is inherently unfair ,socialist engineering .

"Donald Trump has exploited the wedge between the party’s voters and the ideologists of its master class, placing the latter in an awkward spot."

Yes he feeds them the line that the government is inept ,and corrupt . His solution ? He promises more government ....led by a 'strong' ,'winner' .

"To the libertarian true believer, capitalism is a value system rather than merely a tool. Capitalism means economic freedom. People are entitled to their economic rights (meaning their market income) in exactly the same way as they are entitled to their political rights. “Freedom in economic arrangements is itself a component of freedom broadly understood, so economic freedom is an end in itself,” as Milton Friedman famously put it. "

When was the last time you ever heard Trump say anything about individual rights ? He doesn't believe in them at all . He's all about making the state "great "again (and other phony platitudes ).

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-03-15   16:26:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Willie Green (#0)

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If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2016-03-15   16:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Willie Green (#0)

In the face of this threat, there are many possible responses for an advocate of traditional Goldwater-Reagan conservatism to make.

Whenever I read of such tirades of this depicting Reagan as a "Conservative" Republican I have to point out to these people that it was during the Reagan-Bush era that NAFTA/GATT (now today referred to as tpp.gov) was born. A true Conservative would have abolished this open-borders policy a long time ago.

goldilucky  posted on  2016-03-15   17:39:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete, hono68, Keep the two party system in place. (#3)

Trump IS their candidate. You just can't see it because you don't want to see it because you will finally have to face up to the fact that our political system is thoroughly corrupt,and the only valid option left is revolution.

The establishment is finally running the risk of having the peons rebel against them at last but you and hondo keep posting your anti-trump nonsense.

Both you guys are just tools of the status quo, and you're scared sh*tless that trump and his supporters might defeat them.

calcon  posted on  2016-03-15   17:40:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete (#3)

" Conservatives to White Working Class: Drop Dead "

Well, in the first place, they are not Conservatives. They are a bunch of asshole wanna be Tyrants trying to impersonate Conservatives.

Also Pete, your statement, " the only valid option left is revolution ", sadly I have to agree.

Let me know when you organize a combat team to go to DC and start mass hangings.

Physically I may not be what I was when I was in my 20's & 30's, but my marksmanship has not deteriorated.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-15   17:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: calcon (#7)

Both you guys are just tools of the status quo,

Blah,blah,blah,says a Party Troll.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-15   17:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: goldilucky (#6)

" it was during the Reagan-Bush era that NAFTA/GATT (now today referred to as tpp.gov) was born. "

To be more accurate, poppy Bush made all arrangements for NAFTA, then turned it over to Bubba, who strong armed it through.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-15   17:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Stoner (#10)

Reagan played an equal role in making NAFTA/GATT possible.

goldilucky  posted on  2016-03-15   17:51:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Stoner (#8) (Edited)

Let me know when you organize a combat team to go to DC and start mass hangings.

That will be on the 12th of Never. It just isn't in my nature to start anything.

Once the riots start and the government starts whipping the police state into action,well.....,that's another matter. When they declare Martial Law and suspend the Bill of Rights,it's Game ON!

After all,I swore a oath to protect and defend the US Constitution. I meant it then,and I mean it now. No One has ever released me from that oath.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-15   17:51:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: goldilucky (#11)

Reagan played an equal role in making NAFTA/GATT possible.

HorseHillary.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-15   17:55:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete (#13)

I believe you're correct.

goldilucky  posted on  2016-03-15   17:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#12)

" I swore a oath to protect and defend the US Constitution. I meant it then,and I mean it now. No One has ever released me from that oath. "

Many of us did. And you are right, there was no expiration date.

I do not know about you, but when I swore the oath, there was also another oath, " So help me God !" That is one oath I will never, ever violate.

Come Judgement Day, I may answer for some things, but I will never have to answer for violating an oath to God!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-15   22:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Stoner (#8)

" Conservatives to White Working Class: Drop Dead "

Well, in the first place, they are not Conservatives. They are a bunch of asshole wanna be Tyrants trying to impersonate Conservatives.

They are not even good impersonators. Conservativism incorporates a dedication to maturity and moral integrity that is nonexistent in these people. All they do is wave the term around a little for effect knowing that question of their shallowness is no longer existent in our educational system or media.

rlk  posted on  2016-03-15   23:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: tomder55 (#4)

When was the last time you ever heard Trump say anything about individual rights ? He doesn't believe in them at all .

BINGO!

VxH  posted on  2016-03-16   11:24:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: rlk (#16)

All they do is wave the term around a little for effect

"let's wrap up this folks!".

Interesting how the definition of "conservatism" seems to blow whatever direction the fleeceathon indicate$.

VxH  posted on  2016-03-16   11:48:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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