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Title: Trump Agrees With Democrats on High-Speed Trains
Source: TIME
URL Source: http://time.com/4247162/donald-trump-trains-infrastructure/
Published: Mar 10, 2016
Author: Haley Sweetland Edwards
Post Date: 2016-03-10 09:07:57 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 13366
Comments: 40

In a freewheeling speech Thursday afternoon, Republican frontrunner Donald Trump stumbled into a riff about how great trains are. It’s sad, he said, that the American rail system is so dilapidated while China’s is now slicker than ever.

“They have trains that go 300 miles per hour,” the populist billionaire exclaimed. “We have trains that go chug … chug … chug.”

The line got a laugh—it’s not often that one sees a presidential candidate imitate Thomas the Tank Engine—but it also underscored one of the most solid planks in the billionaire businessman’s rickety policy platform: to fund and rebuild U.S. infrastructure, including its crumbling railways.

The thing is, that’s usually a Democratic talking point.

President Obama spent the better part of his second term pushing for a $478 billion infrastructure bill to fund roads, bridges, and rail lines. Before that, Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, who at one point practically moonlighted as Amtrak’s spokesman, pushed a new U.S. Department of Transportation initiative awarding $8 billion to states to build new high-speed intercity rail.

“[T]here’s no reason why Europe or China should have the fastest trains when we can build them right here in America,” Obama announced in a 2010 statement.

“By investing in high speed rail, we’re doing so many good things for our country at the same time,” Biden added. We’re creating good construction and manufacturing jobs in the near-term; we’re spurring economic development in the future; we’re making our communities more livable—and we’re doing it all while decreasing America’s environmental impact and increasing America’s ability to compete in the world.”

Trump’s language, six years later, is nearly identical.

“Our airports, bridges, water tunnels, power grids, rail systems—our nation’s entire infrastructure is crumbling, and we aren’t doing anything about it,” he wrote in his 2015 book, Crippled America. He went on to promise that fixing it would spur economic growth.

“These projects put people to work—not just the people doing the work but also the manufacturers, the suppliers, the designers, and, yes, even the lawyers. The Senate Budget Committee estimates that rebuilding America will create 13 million jobs,” he wrote. Which, incidentally, was Obama’s point in 2011, when Congressional Republicans blocked his $60 billion infrastructure jobs bill.

Republicans have generally fought efforts to increase federal spending on principle. That includes vast infrastructure projects, even popular ones. In the hours after the deadly Amtrak derailment in May 2015, for example, the Republican-led House Appropriations Committee voted to slash the rail budget by 20%.

In December, a bipartisan group of lawmakers in the House and Senate joined to pass a less sweeping $305 billion version of the infrastructure package. But both of Trump’s top rivals for the Republican nomination, Sens. Marco Rubio of Florida and Ted Cruz of Texas, voted no on the bill.

In a nod to the fiscal conservative tradition of the Republican Party, Trump has admitted that rebuilding American infrastructure would cost taxpayer dollars. But then waved away the concern with Trumpian bravado.

“On the federal level, this is going to be an expensive investment, no question about that. But in the long run it will more than pay for itself,” he said. “It will stimulate our economy while it is being built and make it a lot easier to do business when it’s done—and it can be done on time and under budget.”


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#2. To: Willie Green (#0)

“On the federal level, this is going to be an expensive investment, no question about that. But in the long run it will more than pay for itself,” he said. “It will stimulate our economy while it is being built and make it a lot easier to do business when it’s done—and it can be done on time and under budget.”

Trump is right about this. Investment in the nation's infrastructure pays massive dividends over time.

But investment in overseas military adventures has no return: the money is burnt, and it's gone, and we have nothing permanent to show for any of it other than crippled soldiers and coffins. We didn't hold onto Vietnam. Iraq is a Shi'ite ally of Iran for all practical purposes. What did we get for our trillions? Heartache, and a permanent stream of interest payments.

That's why Trump's foreign policy, which is basically: end the Cold War and the War on Terror by allying with Russia, letting them have their sphere of influence, clobbering the terrorists for good, and bringing the forces home from Europe, is so very right. THAT saves money - a permanent drain. And that money that is freed up can be used for debt reduction and infrastructure improvement.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-10   10:01:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Vicomte13 (#2) (Edited)

But investment in overseas military adventures has no return: the money is burnt, and it's gone,

Gone where Comrade Vic?

You commie Jesuits are so predictable.

Why don't you tell the class about how both forms of government expenditure affect the velocity of the almighty dollar?

Here, I'll help:

http://en.wikipedia.or g/wiki/Velocity_of_money

 

VxH  posted on  2016-03-11   10:36:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: VxH (#22)

Why don't you tell the class about how both forms of government expenditure affect the velocity of the almighty dollar?

Because it's irrelevant and I don't care?

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-11   13:24:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Vicomte13 (#24) (Edited)

It's presumably not irrelevant to the folks employed in the Military Industrial Complex.

How many jobs you s'pose that is Comrade Vic (beings as how you're so "well informed" and all)?

VxH  posted on  2016-03-11   13:32:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: VxH (#25)

Lots of jobs. Which will be lost when we make peace with Russia

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-11   16:58:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Vicomte13, VxH (#26)

Is VxH one of these GOP idiots that hates govt programs except where the build weapons and carry out wars? They only like socialism for the Military Industrial Complex.

Pericles  posted on  2016-03-11   17:47:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Pericles (#27)

I don't know his politics. I only know from his posts to me, which are inveterately hostile, that he thinks I am a narcissistic, deceitful, Ba'al- worshiping parasite and a hypocrite to boot.

He's not a fan of what I have to offer.

For my part, once people start talking to me that way I stop listening to their points and just focus on their nastiness. My court is open to all, and I'll converse with anybody, in a civil way.

He talks down to me and speaks of me in the most degrading terms he can imagine, so obviously I ceased to really follow his thoughts or logic a long time ago.

I reply, but my replies are not based on serious analysis - why would I actually do any WORK for somebody who (a) isn't paying me, and (b) is nasty as hell?

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-11   18:03:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Vicomte13, paracles (#28) (Edited)

He's not a fan of what I have to offer.

That's because you're too inept to recognize (or too amorally corrupt to acknowledge) the historically self-evident fact that the "infrastructure" builders and the Military Industrial destroyers are just two sides of the same blood sucking coin.

Exhibit A: Dick Cheney's Halliburton mob.

VxH  posted on  2016-03-14   8:57:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: VxH (#31)

That's because you're too inept to recognize (or too amorally corrupt to acknowledge) the historically self-evident fact that the "infrastructure" builders and the Military Industrial destroyers are just two sides of the same blood sucking coin.

I'm neither inept nor amorally corrupt.

I recognize that good infrastructure and military forces adequate to national defense are positively good things, that these things are orchestrated by government and paid for by taxes, and that therefore government is not the evil thing that you wrongly assert it is. Excessive infrastructure and bloated militaries are bad things, requiring too much in taxes, and making government overmighty and overbearing.

But this is the point of philosophical and theological difference between us. You define government, all government, as evil by definition. I recognize that right-sized government is a positive good, a thing that does things nobody else can, that extend human lives and improve human happiness.

You consider this alliance with Satan. I think your position is ungodly.

And I note that your language is so vituperative that, placed side by side with mine, the demons fairly scream out of your words, while my words are generally pretty mild.

In other words, we each think that the other has a demon, but I'm right.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-14   9:16:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Vicomte13 (#32) (Edited)

I'm neither inept nor amorally corrupt.

700+ trillion dollars worth of derivative a$$paper conjured by your ilk into the global economic sewage pond contradicts your assertion, Your Worshipfulness.

At least Alan Greenspan managed to demonstrate the character required to say "ooops".

What was Drumpfenflipper University s'pose to teach folks again?

VxH  posted on  2016-03-15   9:54:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#38. To: VxH (#37)

700+ trillion dollars worth of derivative a$$paper

Has nothing whatever to do with trains, infrastructure, social security, public schools.

The government doesn't issue derivatives. The private capitalist marketplace creases them.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-15 11:26:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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