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The Establishments war on Donald Trump Title: Debate Disgrace: Fox News Exposed as Pro-Rubio Super PAC None of the other candidates faced dramatic graphics. Trump did. None of the other candidates faced video of past statements.* Trump did. Trump was never asked to attack his rivals. On at least three occasions, Trumps rivals were invited to attack him. WALLACE: But it was your video and the serious question is, because the suggestion is, do you think that Donald Trump is naive about the threat that Vladimir Putin represents? WALLACE: Mr. Trump opposes any increase because he says it will price American workers out of the world market. Is he wrong about that? WALLACE: Senator Rubio
Please tell Mr. Trump why hes unprepared to be commander-in- chief. On a number of occasions, Wallace and Kelly tossed off their roles as moderators to actually debate Trump, in the hopes of tripping him up or cornering him. As bad as the mainstream media has been to Republican presidential candidates over the years, I have never seen anything like this. This is just one of those exchanges. Here Kelly compares Trump to a con man and Bernie Madoff! KELLY: Let me just set the record, and then you guys can have at it. There was Trump University, which was a business that you started, and it was marketed
TRUMP:
Small business
KELLY:
to many people, and now there is a class-action of over 5,000 plaintiffs against you, Mr. Trump
TRUMP:
Right
KELLY:
And, it involves veterans, and it involves teachers, and it involves so-called little guys, working class, and lower- working class and middle class who say that they were fleeced, who say that it was as scam. The class has been certified, and in that case you counter-sued the lead plaintiff alleging that you were being defamed. TRUMP: That case was thrown out against her
TRUMP:
The lead plaintiff is now getting out of the case because its so bad for her
KELLY:
But, what happened was
TRUMP:
Excuse me, the lead plaintiff signed a letter saying how great it was, and it on tape saying how great it was. KELLY: OK, no, but standby. But, what happened in that case was you counter-sued her. The court threw out your counter-suit, and made you pay almost $800,000 dollars in legal fees of hers, and you made the same argument about 98 percent of the people being happy with Trump University. And, that woman in particular signing a survey saying she liked it while someone was standing over her shoulder
TRUMP:
Shes trying to get out of the case. Shes trying to get out of the case
KELLY:
And this is what standby, this is what the Court of Appeals found. They said that the plaintiffs against you are like the Madoff victims
TRUMP: Oh, give me a break
KELLY:
This is what the Court of Appeals said. TRUMP: Give me a break. KELLY: This is what the court of appeals said. TRUMP: Give me a break. KELLY: They found that victims of con artists often sing the praises of their victimizers until they realize they have been fleeced. TRUMP: You know what, lets see what happens in court. This is a civil case. Very easy to have settled. Could settle it now. Very easy to have settled. Lets see what happens at the end of a couple years when this case is over, OK? KELLY: It has been going for five years. TRUMP: Yes, it has been going for a long time. There were two unbelievable moments even lower than that. The first came from Kelly, who used leaked reports and unsubstantiated rumors surrounding an off-the-record interview Trump supposedly had with the left-wing New York Times. Apparently, the Times leaked information about the off-the-record interview to the left-wing BuzzFeed, who in turn, without hearing the audio, launched a McCarthy-ite attack against Trump, accusing him of saying one thing to the Times and another to the voters regarding immigration. BuzzFeed then demanded Trump prove hes not a communist liar. There is nothing more sacred in journalism than an off-the-record situation. This is supposed to be inviolable. To see the New York Times and BuzzFeed behave in this way is one thing. To see Megyn Kelly and Fox News use a sacred off-the-record conversation to launch a relentless McCarthy-ite attack, was beyond disgraceful. Here are the lowlights: KELLY: Back in January, you gave an off-the-record interview to the New York Times. It was apparently audiotaped. Now, a recent report in Buzzfeed citing sources at the Times reports that in that interview you expressed flexibility when it comes to your immigration policy, specifically with respect to your promise to deport the 11 million people who are now living here illegally. You have suggested that you may have expressed some flexibility when it comes to the size of the wall that you want to build. But did you tell them, specifically, that you are flexible when it comes to your deportation plan?
KELLY: Mr. Trump, we will let respond, but will you release the tapes? Will you authorize of The Times to release the tapes?
KELLY: Will you release the tapes? KELLY: Are you now or have you ever lied about immigration? Okay, I made up that last one. This is Fox News going way beyond anything weve seen in the past from CNBCs John Harwood or ABCs George Stephanopoulos. In the future, any Republican stupid enough to talk to the New York Times, BuzzFeed, or Fox News in an off-the-record capacity, deserves whatever knife he or she gets in the back. Near the end of the debate, Fox News became a parody of itself by airing the last 30 seconds or so of this anti-Trump ad from the John Kasich campaign: After the clip played and everyone had a good laugh at Trumps expense, this was Wallaces question to Kasich: But it was your video and the serious question is, because the suggestion is, do you think that Donald Trump is naive about the threat that Vladimir Putin represents? Fox Newss brand and reputation is already in freefall. Thursday night, in service to Marco Rubio and the Republican Establishment, Fox News stooped lower than NBC News or CNN something many of us never thought possible. *To justify singling Trump out with graphics and videos, Fox News announced at the beginning that the other candidates had faced these in the debate Trump boycotted. Transcript courtesy of The Washington Post. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top Page Up Full Thread Page Down Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 15.
#1. To: cranky (#0)
Fox News, what an embarrassment, they should be ashamed of themselves. Their debate coverage was stupid and juvenile. Every candidate but Kasich went for the chum. Trump had an opportunity to shut down everyone by simply stating "I will not dignify their comments." No but he could not control himself and doubled down on the nonsense. Rubio looked ridiculous trying to attack the bully with a hand full of nothing. Biggest loser was Fox who made the first 45 minutes of a Presidential debate about 'he called you x what do you say..." Pathetic losers.
But the beauty is - they stacked the deck, completely, it was utterly unfair, wrong, they baited the bear, they did everything wrong, they threw the kitchen sink at him, they lied, they cheated, they prevaricated, they made inferences, the "controlled the forum"...AND...THEY...STILL...LOST. Trump went right back at them, yes. And people who were never going to vote for Trump anyway clicked and clucked. But nobody's mind was made up by last night's debate. Trump didn't lose. The entire forum was against him, he went into the colosseum, the lions were set lose, and the victim walked out alive - they were unable to damage him. Trump won. They exhausted their attacks on him, on their battlefield. He blocked, he parried, he used his shield, he swung his mace. And at the end of the fight he was still standing there, unbent, unbowed, unbroken, with the adamant support of his followers. And he got a KEY win last night. Everybody on that stage pledged to back him if he were the nominee. They pledged, in public, on film, to back a guy they've called a "con artist". So after everything, they showed that, in the end, Republican politicians really are bought and paid for men who cannot SURVIVE if they cut their bridges with the GOP, even if DONALD TRUMP is the man in charge of it. Trump demonstrated that he is the toughest son of a bitch in American politics that anybody has ever seen in our lifetime. NOBODY on EITHER SIDE has been subjected to THAT MUCH focused and merciless and belittling attack, for THAT long, and walked out of the arena with his support intact, and with the papers literally UNABLE to crow that he had been defeated. Because spin it all they want, everybody who watched knows that Trump was not defeated last night. They threw everything they had at him yesterday, including Romney. But by the end of the night, all of his opponents publicly admitted they'd back him over a Romney outsider bid - if Trump is the nominee. The Koch brothers said yesterday that they won't be funding a "Stop Trump" bid. And the media did its worse, failed to defeat Trump, and in the process permanently lost a substantial part of their viewer and listener base. Fox lost. Romney lost. Rubio and Cruz and Kasich lost. Trump won. The People won. Reagan never faced anything like this. Sarah Palin is the only won who has. But Sarah was defeated by the media. Trump just faced them down and defeated them.
Trump won. They exhausted their attacks on him, on their battlefield. He blocked, he parried, he used his shield, he swung his mace. And at the end of the fight he was still standing there, unbent, unbowed, unbroken, with the adamant support of his followers.
Good picture, I can see both trump and the gladiator shouting "BRING IT BITCHES"
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