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Title: Will the 2nd American Revolution Happen in 2017?
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Published: Mar 3, 2016
Author: sneakypete
Post Date: 2016-03-03 09:17:34 by sneakypete
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I have been predicting since the day he announced he was running that Trump is Perot,Part 2. His "job" was to feed his ego as well as his bank account by running as what most people would consider to be an "over the top conservative" full of pop slogans,and not a single rational idea or plan. I was,and still am at this point,predicting he will drop out at the last minute and spend the rest of his life bragging about how "I COULD have been president of the US if I had wanted,but I decided the job was beneath me,so I dropped out." I based this on several reasons,listed here in order 1: He is a narcissistic sociopath with an ego as brittle as glass. The one thing he probably fears more than death is losing in public because of his own self-image. There is no way in hell he can risk losing and be forced to admit HE is a "loser". 2:Forbes estimates his net worth is $4 Billion,not the $10 Billion he claims. Of that $4 Billion,$2 Billion is his estimate of the market value of this trademark,the Trump name. Imagine how much he thinks that trademark will be all over the world if he wins the Republican Primary and then drops out because he claims the job is beneath him. 3:He is a life-long denizen of the northeast,primarily NYC. As such he has been rubbing elbows with Dims his entire life,and in the recent past has bragged about being good freinds with the Clinton's. He even invited them to his last wedding. He also has a long record of supporting core leftist issues like abortion on demand,gun control,and open borders for cheap labor. 4:There is no way in hell he is ever going to agree to put all his finances in blind trusts so he can't profit from being in the WH. The man doesn't even want to release tax returns from 5 years ago,and some people think he will hand his whole financial history over to a blind trust? 5: His entire political experience to this point is bribing public officials. I am sure there are people out there who can add reasons to this list,but the 5 points above are enough to get people thinking and talking. Ok,I just listed the base reasons why I think his run is bogus and has been from the start. Now I will list the ONLY reason why the fool may actually go for it. You can see it above listed as number 1. "1: He is a narcissistic sociopath....". It is all about "Me,ME,ME,DAMMIT!" with Trump,and he may not be able to resist the siren call of how actually winning would pump up his ego and his trademark. Which leads me to further speculation,namely "What will happen if Hillary Clinton wins the Dim nomination,and Trump wins the alleged Republican nomination?" The reality is that if you remove the black votes the Clinton's bought by handing over bags of cash to black preachers to buy the votes of their congregations,and the "True Believer" votes of the geezer lesbian "Whymen?" voters,she pretty much has nothing left but people who vote Dim because they are programmed to vote Dim. Most are/used to be middle-class union and construction trade workers. Thanks to the trade deals the DNC and their partners in crime the RNC have been making the last few decades,those people are one small step away from being an endangered species. Let's just say the Clinton's have lost a lot of their appeal with largest Dim voting block,and their party loyalty may really be questioned this time. Now,add the donor class of Dims. The people who are the real movers and shakers within any political party because they are the ones that organize and finance everything. These people always want something in return for their money and time spent,and they are used to getting it. Sometimes it is laws passed or removed that benefits their economic standing,sometimes it is political appointments for their relatives or friends,sometimes it is high administrative appointments for themselves so they can do deals for cash for their friends and acquaintances. Sometimes it may even be all of these things. These people,for the most part,don't like or trust the Clinton's either because the Clinton's stuck it in them and broke it off every chance they got the last time they were in office. You don't really think all of the "missing" 1,000 + FBI "raw" background files were files of people holding office,did you? They kept these files when they left the WH for leverage to keep the money flowing in to their Trust and other accounts once they left office. Flat out,nobody that votes Dim can trust her,and most are smart enough to understand this. The question now is "What will happen after either Mrs Bubba or Trump gets in the WH,and EVERYBODY starts to realize they have been played for fools and hosed by both parties? Will this be enough to set of The Second American Revolution,where the people organize and overthrow the corrupt political system that has slowly taken over control of our Republican? If so,will we go back to being the Constitutional Republic with a Bill of Rights like we started,or will we be some 21st Century "Weeze de peep-pulls" Democracy where every retard in the "home" has a vote equal in power to the votes of rational people? IMNSHO,the only possible solution to prevent this happening again is to go back to the original form of government where only property owners that pay taxes have the right to vote. I would also add to that that ONLY American citizens who were born here are even allowed to own property here. Foreigners and foreign-based corporations can lease or rent property in the US,but they can never own it. What think ye? Poster Comment: Discuss.
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#37. To: MarshND (#30)
Yes,it is. The unions won by selling their souls to the Dims in exchange for even higher wages,and after being stuck in the back by the Dim Party switching from communism to fascism on them,and sending their jobs to the 3rd world. BTW,this is an issue where the Dims and the alleged Republicans of today are joined at the hip,even if neither will admit it in public. They are both fascist parties working towards a global corporate government these days,and mostly playing their devout voters for fools. I would like to see hard working manufacturing jobs get as high of a wage as the market will bare. and I would like to see barriers erected to save jobs in this sector. Trade deals are one of the things we elect our politicians to monitor to insure both that our own manufacturers don't end up facing unfair competition from slave labor from foreign countries,as well as to insure all defense related manufacturing and design remains in-country. They are not and have not been doing the first since WW-2 ended,and they haven't been doing the second since the CLinton/Bush administration. I like them together because damn at the tiny differences. That was where and when what had been passing as the American Left and the American Right met in the fascist center because the truth is it has been decades since either represented anyone but themselves. Union members with IQs of crickets....thats weak, I've worked a few union jobs. If anything it is an insult to crickets,just like it is an insult to sloths to say the typical union member works as fast as a sloth. not really helpful and well you criticize Trump for Meglomania, but you are really exaggerating here...with your 30.00 an hour jobs for sweeping floors. you can't substantiate that....just wild rhetoric. HorseHillary!Remember when NYC went bankrupt back in the 70's and had to be bailed out by the feral government? At the time (the 1970's!!!!!) the guys that washed the buses at the city garage were on strike for higher wages,and their base pay was $26 a hour. In 1970's dollars. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Nobody is ever going to accuse you of being perceptive,are they? I apologize but it seems pretty evident that you don't get the new coalition that is building in this country. You are right on this. WTF are they? I do see the new coalition that is working to DESTROY this country,though. They are named "The DNC" and "The RNC",and their shared goal is a global government ran by a corporation they hold shares in. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
And the owner of this site sees no problems with Trump not putting all his assets into a blind trust if everybody is drugged on election day and votes for him. Pebbles thinks it's fine to let his daughter and sons run his businesses because he seems to think Trump won't be passing them trade tips they can use to profit from buying and selling stocks. Then again,no real surprise because he also thinks Trump is ethical. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
I think as I listen to you I am agreeing more with you than not, but I think we should give trump a chance to advance the basics and pushback on the conventional thinking so prevalent in the DNC and RNC. Other than that, I'm with you on the global corporate governance agenda.
How long has he been running already without ever coming forth with ONE plan that goes beyond a basic "I'll hire good managers to take care of it." explanation for the actual nuts and bolts of the plan? What this tells me is that he HAS NO PLAN beyond promoting his trademark,the Trump name. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
No, I don't trust those numbers or your interpretation of them. Mostly because you haven't explained, If you don't trust the government's numbers then there is no basis for further discussion. If you are a person of integrity you should then not trust any of the government's published numbers on anything. You can't just pick and chose what you want to believe and what you don't without other documented evidence and be credible. And why do I have to explain anything to you? Aren't you capable of analyzing the numbers for yourself? The data as presented speaks for itself. If you replace what was lost (i.e. - manufacturing jobs) with lower paying jobs (i.e. - service jobs) the overall wage pool would be lower. The data clearly shows that this is not the case. BTW, there is ample other evidence that supports the conclusion that on balance the service sector jobs are paying more than the lost manufacturing jobs. But I will not engage you further in this discuss because you do not believe any data that you don't like. "I mean your whole argument is that there is a connection between service sector jobs and manufacturing jobs. It's preposterous and loony." The only thing loony here is your statement. The only statement that I made was that in the aggregate the new service jobs in the economy are paying more than the manufacturing jobs lost. "It's the kool aid that has been served and to which you have," You reveal your ignorance with just this one statement. As far as I know I am the only person that has made the observation that service sector jobs are paying more than the lost manufacturing jobs. What other person have you heard make that claim? Every politician is bemoaning the loss of "high paying" manufacturing jobs that are being replaced by lower paying service sector jobs. Name just one politician or media persona that has made the observation that I have here. Just one will do. If you can't then you prove that you are a closed minded ignorant tool that is incapable of critical thought and analysis. I offer you a totally original observation that no-one to my knowledge has fed any kool aid or other BS pap. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Don't waste your time. You are talking to a mindless tool that is engrossed by shiny objects. He is one of the useful idiots that are easily led by the nose by a P.T. Barnum type that spouts the "we will make America great again" mantra that is every bit as meaningless as the "hope the change" Obama sold to the mindless sheep. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Cant argue with that. I am just willing to take a risk in order to see the establishment turned on its head. Beyond that we mostly agree.
Well, that should be a cause for concern for you right out of the gate. Im not sure whats more concerning. That there is only ONE person in all of America who thinks like you, or that you actually believe that. Go ahead and provide the data or link. Is it the Bureau of Labor Statistics or which site so I can review those statistics. Every politician is bemoaning the loss of higher paying manufacturing jobs that have been replaced by lower paying service sector jobs because that is what is happening. Yet they haven't the guts to take on free trade practices and develop negotiated trade pacts with other countries. It is a marvel that only the court jester is capable of delivering the truth. But hasn't that been the case in Western Culture for centuries. Time to crown the jester King.
What is it that you don't like about the phrase " Make America great again" SOSO? The part about America? And I could be over reading it, but I am suspect of your comment about the mindless sheep. I guess thats the American people. I mean, I understand that the American electorate can can be misguided and is often preoccupied, but thats not really what we have in front of us right now with this primary. Its the establishment that is being criticized. Thats the leadership of mainly the republican party misguiding the people. This has nothing to do with mindless sheep. Quite the contrary.
I'm one of those who said six months ago that it was going to be Bush vs. Xlinton in 2016 - so obviously my powers of prognostication are not sharp. But neither are anyone else's - including members of the chattering classes on cable news who predicted Trump would have flamed out long before now. So with that said here's what I see NOW: 1. If it's Trump vs. Xlinton, a couple of possibilities. If it gets to be late and polls show a close election, expect a "Bombshell" of Romneyic proportions to come out against Trump. An October Surprise. Launched by the R branch. If however it looks like Xlinton will win, then Trump will be left to flame out on his own. Bottom line - The Ruling Party (Rs and Ds) will favor Xlinton in any Trump/Xlinton scenario. 2. If it's Cruz (unlikely) vs. Xlinton, pretty much the same as the Trump vs. Xlinton scenario. The Establishment hates Cruz as much or more than they do Trump, and would prefer Xlinton. 3. If it's Rubio vs. Xlinton, the normal democrat fraud will ensure a victory for the canine candidate. Rubio - the establishment darling - would be a weaker candidate than was McInsane or Mittens. Now it is true that Xlinton is under investigation and there is a SLIGHT chance (on par with me winning the Powerball Lottery*) she may be removed as a candidate. If that happens, Sanders WILL NOT be the candidate - Uncle Joe will. And he will likely win in a landslide against any opposition. We do have a broken country, after all. The elections of '92, '96, '00, '04, '08 and '12 prove it. The 2nd American Revolution cannot come soon enough. (This edit's for you, Bucky: doesn't have to be a bloody one. Maybe it has come already) *my chances of winning the Powerball Lottery are even more remote than most, since I don't play it "Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD . . . " ~Psalm 33:12a
So go out and start the blood letting instead of sitting at a computer typing on a keyboard playing on the Internet. Take control instead of hoping for blood on the streets because you are an absolute LOSER.
Nah, since I have an appointment with the cardiologist on Monday to have heart surgery, I may not be around to see it. Thanks for the love and good will, though. "Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD . . . " ~Psalm 33:12a
Stay well if possible. I don't curse you, instead I encourage your lifelong contributions to post meaningful ideas and essays. I think one of your problems is that you have high blood pressure which may be the root cause of your heart ailment. Moreover, your physiological condition probably determines your mental attitude for a violent revolution. Get well.
See my edit in #47. Thanks "Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD . . . " ~Psalm 33:12a
Thanks. What is your probable outcome?
Indeed it is. Three hundred million plus Americans can be wrong, especially when 300+ million DGAS. "there is only ONE person in all of America who thinks like you, or that you actually believe that." Remarkable how you ignorance shines through. I never said that, did I? I said I am the only one that has expressed that position. I am convinced that every politician in the U.S> knows what I have said to be the truth. It's not in their interest to speak it. Quite the contrary when they know that dupes like you are out there. "Every politician is bemoaning the loss of higher paying manufacturing jobs that have been replaced by lower paying service sector jobs because that is what is happening." Prove it. I have the balls to go public with readily available data. How about you? Or are you a dickless coward that doesn't have the capability to prove his point. "It is a marvel that only the court jester is capable of delivering the truth." LMAO. Do you even understand the data that was presented? You may chose not to believe the data but to deny the simple arithmetic of it is beyond comprehension. If I am a jester you are the village idiot. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
check your mail.
"Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD . . . " ~Psalm 33:12a
You really don't know? Well, I guess that's to be expected from those that are mesmerized by shiny objects. So tell me, Lance, exactly what does that phrase mean to you? Then find an adult (or kid) and ask them. You want to bet that if you ask ten people what that means you will get eleven answers. It is P.T. Barnum huckster BS designed for the feeble minded. It means exactly what one wants it to mean. It's the same hustle that "hope and change" was. It means nothing at all. There is no substance to it. It is designed to be totally non- specific so that anyone can project their own meaning to it. But you simply are incapable of understanding that as original thought and critical thinking is beyond your abilities. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Ssssssssssh. You will make his head explode. He believes in fairies, hope and change, and, make America great again. Don't ruin it for him. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
If trump should win he will no more be able to get his agenda up than was Obone he couldn't save the republic either
I am not a Trumper. My vote is for Scruffy! How do you know that? No-one knows what Trump's agenda is. Everything is negotiable to him. There is no ideological core there only what is good for Dollar Donald's bank account at the moment. He'll wheel and deal on everything with the belief that he can change his mind on anything anytime he wishes (and change it back again). Wall? What wall? We don't need no stinkin' wall. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
In case you have been living in a cave, Obama has gotten much of what he wanted and he has several months left to get more. The REPS have been and remain little obstacle to him. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Best of luck to you. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Look same old. You are a pessimist that just complains. That you are not for Trump makes a lot of sense. Whiners always have something to complain about. Your comment about fairies are what militant atheists like Oscar likes to make. Have you lost your faith?
Best wishes for your operation. I hope it works out well for you.
You aren't the court jester....Trump is. But it was often the court jester in the royal court who, well they were the only one who could speak the truth without their head rolling. Maybe I missed something, but I did not see any facts, just your opinion. I'm not saying that you didn't provide them, so could you do it again or provide a link to the data your talking about.
Cmon man! That's what campaign slogans are....like art or poetry it is short hand designed to inspire sensa the wordiness of say an essay. Seems you could find REAL things to criticize Trump for. But there seems to be something else. Why don't you share it? Is it that you think he is racially discriminating?
Thanks for the kind thoughts, guys. "Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD . . . " ~Psalm 33:12a
I never had any faith in the likes of Trump. I never had any faith in the secular progressive philosophy and goals. But I am losing faith in We The People in making the right choices that preserve the beliefs and way of life that was passed down to us by our fathers and grandfathers which shaped me and most of my generation. Those beliefs and way of life became under attack in the 60s. The first battle we lost was when we allowed the leftist turds to take over our public schools and begin their indoctrination of what is now 3+ generations of We The People. Where in the world do you think you will find enough people to reverse the BS meme of tribalism sold as multiculturalism, discrimination sold as diversity, Nazism sold as tolerance, economic justice, environmental justice, open borders, Black Lives Matter, white privilege, and so on and so on? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
You were shown the facts as published by the U.S. government. The link is in post #32 (click on the blue highlighted text). You mindlessly blow them off. More important you did not offer any facts to refute them just your opinion. I will give you the benefit of doubt and accept for the moment that you do not know that blue highlighted text is a link. So please look at the data that the U.S. government published and if you still do not believe that data provide a link to relevant data that you do believe disproves my statement about service jobs in the aggregate paying more than the so-called lost manufacturing jobs. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I grew up in NYC during the 50s, 60s and much of the 70s. I am quite familiar with Dollar Donald Trump. I will be as brief as I can. He is a first class con artist. I wouldn't trust him to wipe his own ass. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
That's because America is no longer about "We,the people". It is now about "We the blacks,we the Hispanics,we the Muslims,We the Mexicans,We,the homosexuals,We,the communists,We,the women,etc,etc,etc". We are no longer a people,thanks to the fragmenting accomplished by the Dim Party thanks to their "divide and conquer" strategy to destroy our freedoms and make us into a socialist police state. Now for most people under 60,it is all about "Me,ME,ME,DAMMIT!" We are no longer a nation,we are a gathering of cliques,races,and genders. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
That's the tribalism sold as multiculturalism to which I refer. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Quack, waddle.... Yep.
Thomas Jefferson and C.S. Lewis articulated the "point" succinctly:
Thomas Jefferson and C.S. Lewis articulated the "point" succinctly: "Everyone is indignant when he hears the Germans define justice as that which is to the interest of the Third Reich. But it is not always remembered that this indignation is perfectly groundless if we ourselves regard morality as a subjective sentiment to be altered at will. Unless there is some objective standard of good, overarching Germans, Japanese, and ourselves alike whether any of us obey it or no, then of course the Germans are as competent to create their ideology as we are to create ours. If "good" and "better" are terms deriving their sole meaning from the ideology of each people, then of course ideologies themselves cannot be better or worse than one another." --CS Lewis, The Poison of Subjectivism You point is extremely well made but is totally lost on him. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Are you GOPe folks going to stick with rubio or going over to you cruz? Just curious.
SOSO is GOPe? I'll be either voting for Cruz or...
Just curious. As usual the general election will again be a choice between a Turd Sandwich and a Douchebag - you pick which one Hillary is. In the final analysis there is no way I will vote for Hillary. If Trump is the REP nominee I will very likely sit this one out. Dollar Donald is a con artist and I've had my fill of these types in the WH, particularly over the past seven years. Just get used to the idea of an tyranny by Executive Order. I live in CO and the wonderful REP Party in CO made sure that We The People could not vote for candidate in the primary - fortunately I said f*ck them a few years ago but my wife is still registered as REP but probably not much longer. As for the remaining Turds/Douchebags, I don't think that either Cruz, Rubio or Kasich have a chance to get the nomination other than via a rigged brokered convention. It's entirely possible the wonderful national REP Party will come up with another person as the nominee but that will be another story. So what's a boy to do? Cruz, Kasich, or Rubio? Of the three I would prefer Kasich. He is too Kumbaya, touchy feely for my taste but appears to be less of a Turd Sandwich/Douchebag than all of the others. If there is a third party candidate I will resist to urge to slit my wrists when Hillary takes the oath. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
My dad fought all his life fighting the unions, and as president of our small town chamber of commerce, I was proud of him and his battles. Its a different world today....
#38. To: MarshND (#31)
.how outdated and probably why you hide behind Donalds flaws without really confronting your own biases and outdated thinking on American workers.
#39. To: paraclete (#35)
The point being there was no question they couldn't continue whatever enterprise they were engaged in while being president however today a president cannot be trusted not to profit from the office
#40. To: sneakypete (#38)
#41. To: MarshND (#40)
I think we should give trump a chance to advance the basics and pushback on the conventional thinking
#42. To: MarshND (#34)
#43. To: sneakypete, MarshND (#41)
What this tells me is that he HAS NO PLAN beyond promoting his trademark,the Trump name.
#44. To: sneakypete (#41)
How long has he been running already without ever coming forth with ONE plan that goes beyond a basic "I'll hire good managers to take care of it." explanation for the actual nuts and bolts of the plan?
#45. To: SOSO (#42)
As far as I know I am the only person that has made the observation that service sector jobs are paying more than the lost manufacturing jobs. What other person have you heard make that claim? Every politician is bemoaning the loss of "high paying" manufacturing jobs that are being replaced by lower paying service sector jobs.
#46. To: SOSO (#43)
"we will make America great again" mantra that is every bit as meaningless as the "hope the change" Obama sold to the mindless sheep.
#47. To: sneakypete (#0)
(Edited)
Discuss
#48. To: Rufus T Firefly (#47)
(Edited)
The 2nd American Revolution cannot come soon enough.
#49. To: buckeroo (#48)
So go out and start the blood letting instead of sitting at a computer typing on a keyboard playing on the Internet. Take control instead of hoping for blood on the streets because you are an absolute LOSER.
#50. To: Rufus T Firefly (#49)
#51. To: buckeroo (#50)
get well
#52. To: Rufus T Firefly (#51)
#53. To: MarshND (#45)
Well, that should be a cause for concern for you right out of the gate.
#54. To: buckeroo (#52)
#55. To: MarshND (#46)
What is it that you don't like about the phrase " Make America great again" SOSO?
#56. To: paraclete, A K A Stone, sneakypete (#25)
The founders kept their assets, slaves, close to the chest and retained their earnings
#57. To: SOSO (#56)
(Edited)
#58. To: paraclete (#57)
Go ye forth and make America great again.
#59. To: paraclete (#57)
If trump should win he will no more be able to get his agenda up than was Obone he couldn't save the republic either
#60. To: Rufus T Firefly (#49)
Nah, since I have an appointment with the cardiologist on Monday to have heart surgery, I may not be around to see it.
#61. To: SOSO (#56)
Ssssssssssh. You will make his head explode. He believes in fairies, hope and change, and, make America great again. Don't ruin it for him.
#62. To: Rufus T Firefly (#49)
Nah, since I have an appointment with the cardiologist on Monday to have heart surgery, I may not be around to see it.
#63. To: SOSO (#53)
#64. To: SOSO (#55)
It (campaign slogans) is designed to be totally non-specific so that anyone can project their own meaning to it.
#65. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#62)
Best wishes for your operation. I hope it works out well for you.
#66. To: A K A Stone (#61)
Have you lost your faith?
#67. To: MarshND (#63)
Maybe I missed something, but I did not see any facts, just your opinion.
#68. To: MarshND (#64)
Seems you could find REAL things to criticize Trump for. But there seems to be something else. Why don't you share it? Is it that you think he is racially discriminating?
#69. To: SOSO (#66)
But I am losing faith in We The People in making the right choices that preserve the beliefs and way of life that was passed down to us by our fathers and grandfathers which shaped me and most of my generation.
#70. To: sneakypete (#69)
That's because America is no longer about "We,the people". It is now about "We the blacks,we the Hispanics,we the Muslims,We the Mexicans,We,the homosexuals,We,the communists,We,the women,etc,etc,etc".
#71. To: SOSO (#3)
Like Obama, Trump is a fraud, a con man.
#72. To: MarshND (#29)
(Edited)
Sorry, but that completely misses the point.
"Everyone is indignant when he hears the Germans define justice as that which is to the interest of the Third Reich. But it is not always remembered that this indignation is perfectly groundless if we ourselves regard morality as a subjective sentiment to be altered at will. Unless there is some objective standard of good, overarching Germans, Japanese, and ourselves alike whether any of us obey it or no, then of course the Germans are as competent to create their ideology as we are to create ours. If "good" and "better" are terms deriving their sole meaning from the ideology of each people, then of course ideologies themselves cannot be better or worse than one another."
--CS Lewis, The Poison of Subjectivism
www. google.com/#q=cs%20le...oison%20of%20subjectivism 
#73. To: VxH, MarshND (#72)
Sorry, but that completely misses the point.
#74. To: SOSO, VxH, (#73)
#75. To: calcon, SOSO (#74)
(Edited)
#76. To: calcon, VxH, (#74)
Are you GOPe folks going to stick with rubio or going over to you cruz?
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