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Title: Will the 2nd American Revolution Happen in 2017?
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Published: Mar 3, 2016
Author: sneakypete
Post Date: 2016-03-03 09:17:34 by sneakypete
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Views: 19370
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I have been predicting since the day he announced he was running that Trump is Perot,Part 2. His "job" was to feed his ego as well as his bank account by running as what most people would consider to be an "over the top conservative" full of pop slogans,and not a single rational idea or plan.

I was,and still am at this point,predicting he will drop out at the last minute and spend the rest of his life bragging about how "I COULD have been president of the US if I had wanted,but I decided the job was beneath me,so I dropped out."

I based this on several reasons,listed here in order

1: He is a narcissistic sociopath with an ego as brittle as glass. The one thing he probably fears more than death is losing in public because of his own self-image. There is no way in hell he can risk losing and be forced to admit HE is a "loser".

2:Forbes estimates his net worth is $4 Billion,not the $10 Billion he claims. Of that $4 Billion,$2 Billion is his estimate of the market value of this trademark,the Trump name. Imagine how much he thinks that trademark will be all over the world if he wins the Republican Primary and then drops out because he claims the job is beneath him.

3:He is a life-long denizen of the northeast,primarily NYC. As such he has been rubbing elbows with Dims his entire life,and in the recent past has bragged about being good freinds with the Clinton's. He even invited them to his last wedding. He also has a long record of supporting core leftist issues like abortion on demand,gun control,and open borders for cheap labor.

4:There is no way in hell he is ever going to agree to put all his finances in blind trusts so he can't profit from being in the WH. The man doesn't even want to release tax returns from 5 years ago,and some people think he will hand his whole financial history over to a blind trust?

5: His entire political experience to this point is bribing public officials.


I am sure there are people out there who can add reasons to this list,but the 5 points above are enough to get people thinking and talking.

Ok,I just listed the base reasons why I think his run is bogus and has been from the start.

Now I will list the ONLY reason why the fool may actually go for it. You can see it above listed as number 1.

"1: He is a narcissistic sociopath....".

It is all about "Me,ME,ME,DAMMIT!" with Trump,and he may not be able to resist the siren call of how actually winning would pump up his ego and his trademark.

Which leads me to further speculation,namely "What will happen if Hillary Clinton wins the Dim nomination,and Trump wins the alleged Republican nomination?"

The reality is that if you remove the black votes the Clinton's bought by handing over bags of cash to black preachers to buy the votes of their congregations,and the "True Believer" votes of the geezer lesbian "Whymen?" voters,she pretty much has nothing left but people who vote Dim because they are programmed to vote Dim. Most are/used to be middle-class union and construction trade workers. Thanks to the trade deals the DNC and their partners in crime the RNC have been making the last few decades,those people are one small step away from being an endangered species. Let's just say the Clinton's have lost a lot of their appeal with largest Dim voting block,and their party loyalty may really be questioned this time.

Now,add the donor class of Dims. The people who are the real movers and shakers within any political party because they are the ones that organize and finance everything. These people always want something in return for their money and time spent,and they are used to getting it. Sometimes it is laws passed or removed that benefits their economic standing,sometimes it is political appointments for their relatives or friends,sometimes it is high administrative appointments for themselves so they can do deals for cash for their friends and acquaintances. Sometimes it may even be all of these things.

These people,for the most part,don't like or trust the Clinton's either because the Clinton's stuck it in them and broke it off every chance they got the last time they were in office. You don't really think all of the "missing" 1,000 + FBI "raw" background files were files of people holding office,did you? They kept these files when they left the WH for leverage to keep the money flowing in to their Trust and other accounts once they left office.

Flat out,nobody that votes Dim can trust her,and most are smart enough to understand this.

The question now is "What will happen after either Mrs Bubba or Trump gets in the WH,and EVERYBODY starts to realize they have been played for fools and hosed by both parties?

Will this be enough to set of The Second American Revolution,where the people organize and overthrow the corrupt political system that has slowly taken over control of our Republican?

If so,will we go back to being the Constitutional Republic with a Bill of Rights like we started,or will we be some 21st Century "Weeze de peep-pulls" Democracy where every retard in the "home" has a vote equal in power to the votes of rational people?

IMNSHO,the only possible solution to prevent this happening again is to go back to the original form of government where only property owners that pay taxes have the right to vote.

I would also add to that that ONLY American citizens who were born here are even allowed to own property here. Foreigners and foreign-based corporations can lease or rent property in the US,but they can never own it.

What think ye?


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#1. To: sneakypete (#0)

>>"over the top conservative"

He hasn't even demonstrated an ability to articulate the ideas held by a run of the mill conservative - and most of his supporters "don't care".

He's real popular though, which is as much of a reflection of American culture as it is of Donald Trump.

VxH  posted on  2016-03-03   10:21:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: sneakypete (#0)

" go back to the original form of government where only property owners that pay taxes have the right to vote.

I would also add to that that ONLY American citizens who were born here are even allowed to own property here. Foreigners and foreign-based corporations can lease or rent property in the US,but they can never own it. "

I could agree with that. I would add that English should be the official language. For anyone that cannot read, write, or speak it, TS. Better learn.

There will be some come along and disagree with all this.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

A friend will help you move ,But a good friend will help you move a body..

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-03   10:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: VxH, sneakypete, All (#1)

He's real popular though, which is as much of a reflection of American culture as it is of Donald Trump.

That's exactly true of Obama. As far as BS goes "make America great again" is exactly the same as "hope and change", neither means anything other than what people choose to read into the statement. Like Obama, Trump is a fraud, a con man. The only differences between Trump and Obama is that Trump has a documented track record that was readily available to the public while Obama had all of his tracks covered, and, the MSM supports Obama and continually gives him a pass whereas the MSM fans the flame off Trump anti-sentiment.

IMO the REP Party is done as a viable politic force, as is the Conservative movement (what is left of it) in the U.S. We all need to get used to eight years of Hillary and possibly a DRat controlled Congress and SCOTUS. Adios and thanks for all of the fish.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-03   11:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: VxH (#1)

LOL! You think Charlie might be his VP pick to make him look semi-rational by comparison?

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-03   16:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Stoner (#2)

There will be some come along and disagree with all this.

Of course there will. There is no law against people being wrong,nor can there be in a free society.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-03   16:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: SOSO (#3)

He's real popular though, which is as much of a reflection of American culture as it is of Donald Trump.

That's exactly true of Obama.

They might as well be brothers. One a communist at heart,and the other a fascist at heart.

From the POV of someone that values individual liberties,they might as well be the same critter.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-03   16:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#0)

I think I'll just go ahead a vote for the establishment's candidate Rubio.

Unlike his senate tenure, he might actually come to work for this job.

I voted for the establishment's last two candidates and all it got me was obama and his repub allies in the house,senate and supreme court. They kiss his ass more then any good democrat.

I believed their bullshit twice, I won't do it again.

Pete, I've never had a problem with you but you're wrong here.

calcon  posted on  2016-03-03   16:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: calcon (#7)

I think I'll just go ahead a vote for the establishment's candidate Rubio.

Ok,free country and all that.

Pete, I've never had a problem with you but you're wrong here.

Time will tell.

I could MAYBE see me voting for Trump if he had a good solid conservative VP running with him to take over after he is impeached and sent out to "live on the farm",but no way in hell will I vote for him if he picks somebody like Christy,Romney,Jeb,Rubio,etc,etc,etc.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-03   16:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: sneakypete (#8)

no way in hell will I vote for him if he picks somebody like Christy,Romney,Jeb,Rubio,etc,etc,etc.

You're right there, I think the best choice would be cruz but then again I thought mittens would win. So, what the hell do I know.

It's nice to disagree here without name calling being involved. Thanks, very refreshing.

calcon  posted on  2016-03-03   17:14:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: calcon (#9)

I thought mittens would win. So, what the hell do I know.

I'm to the point now where I honestly don't think ANYBODY knows. Not even the movers and shakers that normally run fixed games.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-03   17:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete (#0)

Will the 2nd American Revolution Happen in 2017?

NO, because I have heard this for 10 years and nothing happened yet.

U don't know me  posted on  2016-03-03   21:10:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete (#0)

Discuss.

I don't like Trump anymore than you but it appears you stole your talking points from Mitt Romney who plans to steal the GOP nomination.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-03-03   21:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#12)

I don't like Trump anymore than you but it appears you stole your talking points from Mitt Romney who plans to steal the GOP nomination.

Then it appears to me you must be drunk.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-03   23:05:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete (#0)

And your point is?????????? You don't have one because this isn't about Donald Trump. It's about real democracy and the IDEAS of the people who are supporting Trump. Look Trump isn't trying to educate the electorate, providing insight gained from years in government. He isn't trying to sell something to people that they dont want. He is simply a megaphone for a large and growing American electorate that knows EXACTLY what it wants. And it is soon about to wrestle it away from an establishment that has pilfered and trashed our middle class. And yes, we will use Trump to do it. Grab a seat and pop your popcorn...And when the democrats jump on board ( unions ) it will be a landslide. There is far more meat on this bone than your small cranium has grasped.

MarshND  posted on  2016-03-04   13:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: MarshND (#14)

There is far more meat on this bone than your small cranium has grasped.

Oscar is likely to put the lid on and hide in that can of his after being hit with that witty truth.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-04   14:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#0)

4:There is no way in hell he is ever going to agree to put all his finances in blind trusts so he can't profit from being in the WH. The man doesn't even want to release tax returns from 5 years ago,and some people think he will hand his whole financial history over to a blind trust?

Oscar your cranium is very small. There is not law that requires anyone to put their money in a blind trust. We've discussed this before. I think you must have forgot. You forget things a lot and repeat the same angry phrases.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-04   14:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#15)

Ha ha. Well it was not my intent to antagonize. In fact, I will take back my last comment and rephrase it in an attempt to be more politic. People have mindsets. Not political ones per se. More like worldviews and some so widely accepted that they are actually embraced by both political establishments. Things like globalism, diversity, and words like global citizen and advertisements that talk about corporations that have souls etc. Trump is revealing these mindsets and challenging them. Not because he is wise or even honorable...but because he is Trump.

So Oscars cranium should not be critized for its size...its just that his mindset is being revealed.

MarshND  posted on  2016-03-04   15:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: MarshND (#14) (Edited)

It's about real democracy and the IDEAS of the people who are supporting Trump.

I see. Trump is about democracy,huh? You don't have enough sense to pour piss out of a boot if you really believe that crap. The man is a natural born dictator in the making.

BTW,the United States of America is NOT a democracy,despite what your brainwashed teachers taught you in school. It was set up as a Constitutional Republic because democracies never work and always lead to police states.

Look Trump isn't trying to educate the electorate, providing insight gained from years in government. He isn't trying to sell something to people that they dont want. He is simply a megaphone for a large and growing American electorate that knows EXACTLY what it wants. And it is soon about to wrestle it away from an establishment that has pilfered and trashed our middle class.

Mostly true. The biggest flaw is he doesn't believe it himself. He's just a salesman telling us all what we want and need to appear so that we buy his product,namely him.

And yes, we will use Trump to do it.

I'm sure that is your intention. Good luck to you.

Grab a seat and pop your popcorn...And when the democrats jump on board ( unions ) it will be a landslide.

Oh,GOODY! Unions are just exactly what we need to restore freedon in America! Hey! If you ain't related to a union member,you don't need a damn job anyhow,right?

And NOTHING will bring manufacturing jobs back to America quicker that highly piad union members with the IQ's of crickets demanding 30 dollars a hour to sweep the floor. Well,maybe the addition of a few more levels of bureaucracy that demand PC hires,mandatory classes on the clock in manners,tolerance for diversity on job sites,etc,etc,etc.

There is far more meat on this bone than your small cranium has grasped.

PLEASE tell me more! Ise sew dum Ida never thunk of unions!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-04   16:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#16)

There is not law that requires anyone to put their money in a blind trust.

Then why do they all do it,bubba? You think maybe Trump is going to cut you in on a few of the sweet backroom deals he cooks up based on bills he signed,and you are going to be able to buy your own orange possum to wear on your head? We've discussed this before.

No,you made that claim before,but never proved it.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-04   16:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#19)

Then why do they all do it,bubba?

Because first off they don't run the company it is usually investments or something.

Secondly they are cowards that think the media will say conflict of interest.

Trump said he will let his kids run it.

All you do is whine and throw the excrement from your can on the wall and hope it sticks.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-04   18:50:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#20)

Trump said he will let his kids run it.

And you,being the poor simple soul that you are,thinks that is the same as leaving it in the hands of a blind trust so no insider profits or deals are made?

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-04   18:52:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#21)

And you,being the poor simple soul that you are,thinks that is the same as leaving it in the hands of a blind trust so no insider profits or deals are made?

It is called freedom. A concept foreign to you. If he does something wrong you prosecute. You don't say someone might do something wrong so they have to do x or y or z.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-04   18:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#22)

It is called freedom. A concept foreign to you.

No,it is called corruption,something you now seem to be a fan of because it defines your idol.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-04   20:42:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sneakypete (#23)

No,it is called corruption,something you now seem to be a fan of because it defines your idol.

I don't think the founders would have thought you should put your assets in a blind trust.

Moot point anyway. You aren't anyone. I'm not either. His kids are running it. Nothing you can do about it except bang the lid to your can up and down and make some grunts and maybe throw an empty can of spaghettios.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-04   22:54:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#24) (Edited)

The founders kept their assets, slaves, close to the chest and retained their earnings

paraclete  posted on  2016-03-05   0:50:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#18)

Trump is about democracy,huh? You don't have enough sense to pour piss out of a boot if you really believe that crap. The man is a natural born dictator in the making.

Fair enough, guess crushing the establishment and fighting for America isn't worth the risk of your worst fears about Trump. It is worth the risk to me.

And my point about the unions backing Trump isn't an endorsement about unions...again this cranium issue. Point is that hard working union Americans, foolish enough I will grant you, still understand that there is nothing FREE about free trade except FREE ACCESS to an American market that people should PAY FOR to have access to. PERIOD. Damn is that so hard to understand. We have gained nothing from these decades of irresponsible, highly LIBERAL, free trade agreements. That union members get that is not a condemnation of the union itself, I would hope you get that?

MarshND  posted on  2016-03-05   11:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#21)

And you,being the poor simple soul that you are,thinks that is the same as leaving it in the hands of a blind trust so no insider profits or deals are made?

But see your preoccupation with Trump and his failings as a person and as a candidate just leaves you open for the criticism that you aren't very interested in what he stands for. And if you even begin to ask what that is, then you must have wax in your ears.

MarshND  posted on  2016-03-05   11:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#0)

IMNSHO,the only possible solution to prevent this happening again is to go back to the original form of government where only property owners that pay taxes have the right to vote.

I would also add to that that ONLY American citizens who were born here are even allowed to own property here. Foreigners and foreign-based corporations can lease or rent property in the US,but they can never own it.

What think ye?

Well, I really like your comments here. I like them in the same way that I like Trumps comments about deporting 11 million illegal immigrants. Its a great place to start.....not sure its feasible, but its the kind of common sense, cut to the chase thinking we need to start a dialogue and solve problems.

MarshND  posted on  2016-03-05   11:37:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: VxH (#1)

He hasn't even demonstrated an ability to articulate the ideas held by a run of the mill conservative - and most of his supporters "don't care".

He's real popular though, which is as much of a reflection of American culture as it is of Donald Trump.

That Manson/Trump thing was hilarious.....and well kinda scary.

I will just say this. For those that believe that both the establishments along with corporate america are driving us off a cliff, hitching our economy to an unstable world economy, and opening and crushing all barriers to have helped protect our traditions and culture from the rest of the world...well some of us would probably go with Manson for president. And I guess that is scary. Why is that true? It isn't that he is popular or culturally relevant. Sorry, but that completely misses the point.

MarshND  posted on  2016-03-05   11:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#18)

And NOTHING will bring manufacturing jobs back to America quicker that highly piad union members with the IQ's of crickets demanding 30 dollars a hour to sweep the floor. Well,maybe the addition of a few more levels of bureaucracy that demand PC hires,mandatory classes on the clock in manners,tolerance for diversity on job sites,etc,etc,etc.

Ya know, I'm probably not as old as you, and therefore lack the wisdom of your years. But, This seems like a particularly ancient place to hang your hat. My dad fought all his life fighting the unions, and as president of our small town chamber of commerce, I was proud of him and his battles. Its a different world today....I see the chamber of commerce differently, and fighting to keep wages low is a corporations battle and certainly not mine. I would like to see hard working manufacturing jobs get as high of a wage as the market will bare. and I would like to see barriers erected to save jobs in this sector. Union members with IQs of crickets....thats weak, not really helpful and well you criticize Trump for Meglomania, but you are really exaggerating here...with your 30.00 an hour jobs for sweeping floors. you can't substantiate that....just wild rhetoric.

MarshND  posted on  2016-03-05   12:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#18)

And NOTHING will bring manufacturing jobs back to America quicker that highly piad union members with the IQ's of crickets demanding 30 dollars a hour to sweep the floor. Well,maybe the addition of a few more levels of bureaucracy that demand PC hires,mandatory classes on the clock in manners,tolerance for diversity on job sites,etc,etc,etc.

And just one more point on this, and no I am not a member of a union. Just one more point to show how wrong your wiring is....how outdated and probably why you hide behind Donalds flaws without really confronting your own biases and outdated thinking on American workers. I might be wrong, and if I am and you are just a blow hard on unions, I apologize but it seems pretty evident that you don't get the new coalition that is building in this country. Part of it is in a word. PROTECTION. Protecting our values, our religion, our culture, our language, AND our workers. Eliminating borders and offering up our middle class to all bidders is not the way. Rubio is hardly the answer. He is the same as Hilary.....unless of course you are fighting old battles.

MarshND  posted on  2016-03-05   12:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: MarshND, sneakypete (#31)

Protecting.........................our workers.

You should check some facts before making judgments.

" Manufacturing jobs were higher paying jobs? Really? Not according to the following........ As early as 1969 the manufacturing hourly wage was less than the production and non-supervisory hourly wage." The government published data strongly shows that in the aggregate the manufacturing jobs lost have been replaced by higher paying service type jobs. You may not trust the data published by the government, that's you choice, but the mathematics of the situation the data portrays is irrefutable. So exactly what is this "proptection of our workers" you are advocating?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-05   13:34:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: paraclete (#25)

The founders kept their assets, slaves, close to the chest and retained their earnings

Why not?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-03-05   14:45:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: SOSO (#32)

No, I don't trust those numbers or your interpretation of them. Mostly because you haven't explained, and I have never seen evidence of how a trade deficit to China, Mexico, and India and virtually every other country in the world brings service sector jobs to America. I mean your whole argument is that there is a connection between service sector jobs and manufacturing jobs. It's preposterous and loony. It's the kool aid that has been served and to which you have, I must say gluttonously, apportioned yourself to. It's the whole Bush story that with inevitable globalization we will lose manufacturing jobs, the low paying ones that we cannot compete with anyway, and we will become a country of white collar workers all earning high paying service sector jobs. Hogwash. I mean the service sector jobs are all things we can have anyway...we don't have to lose manufacturing jobs to secure these high paying service sector jobs you speak of. This is a sickness beyond my ability to fix...you are too far gone.

MarshND  posted on  2016-03-05   15:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: buckeroo (#33)

The point being there was no question they couldn't continue whatever enterprise they were engaged in while being president however today a president cannot be trusted not to profit from the office

paraclete  posted on  2016-03-05   16:09:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: MarshND (#27)

But see your preoccupation with Trump and his failings as a person and as a candidate just leaves you open for the criticism that you aren't very interested in what he stands for.

Well,since he stands for everything and nothing other than his own advancement,why would I be interested?

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-05   16:40:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: MarshND (#30)

My dad fought all his life fighting the unions, and as president of our small town chamber of commerce, I was proud of him and his battles. Its a different world today....

Yes,it is. The unions won by selling their souls to the Dims in exchange for even higher wages,and after being stuck in the back by the Dim Party switching from communism to fascism on them,and sending their jobs to the 3rd world.

BTW,this is an issue where the Dims and the alleged Republicans of today are joined at the hip,even if neither will admit it in public. They are both fascist parties working towards a global corporate government these days,and mostly playing their devout voters for fools.

I would like to see hard working manufacturing jobs get as high of a wage as the market will bare. and I would like to see barriers erected to save jobs in this sector.

Trade deals are one of the things we elect our politicians to monitor to insure both that our own manufacturers don't end up facing unfair competition from slave labor from foreign countries,as well as to insure all defense related manufacturing and design remains in-country.

They are not and have not been doing the first since WW-2 ended,and they haven't been doing the second since the CLinton/Bush administration. I like them together because damn at the tiny differences. That was where and when what had been passing as the American Left and the American Right met in the fascist center because the truth is it has been decades since either represented anyone but themselves.

Union members with IQs of crickets....thats weak,

I've worked a few union jobs. If anything it is an insult to crickets,just like it is an insult to sloths to say the typical union member works as fast as a sloth.

not really helpful and well you criticize Trump for Meglomania, but you are really exaggerating here...with your 30.00 an hour jobs for sweeping floors. you can't substantiate that....just wild rhetoric.

HorseHillary!Remember when NYC went bankrupt back in the 70's and had to be bailed out by the feral government? At the time (the 1970's!!!!!) the guys that washed the buses at the city garage were on strike for higher wages,and their base pay was $26 a hour. In 1970's dollars.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-05   16:53:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: MarshND (#31)

.how outdated and probably why you hide behind Donalds flaws without really confronting your own biases and outdated thinking on American workers.

Nobody is ever going to accuse you of being perceptive,are they?

I apologize but it seems pretty evident that you don't get the new coalition that is building in this country.

You are right on this. WTF are they?

I do see the new coalition that is working to DESTROY this country,though. They are named "The DNC" and "The RNC",and their shared goal is a global government ran by a corporation they hold shares in.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-05   16:56:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: paraclete (#35)

The point being there was no question they couldn't continue whatever enterprise they were engaged in while being president however today a president cannot be trusted not to profit from the office

And the owner of this site sees no problems with Trump not putting all his assets into a blind trust if everybody is drugged on election day and votes for him.

Pebbles thinks it's fine to let his daughter and sons run his businesses because he seems to think Trump won't be passing them trade tips they can use to profit from buying and selling stocks.

Then again,no real surprise because he also thinks Trump is ethical.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-05   16:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: sneakypete (#38)

I think as I listen to you I am agreeing more with you than not, but I think we should give trump a chance to advance the basics and pushback on the conventional thinking so prevalent in the DNC and RNC. Other than that, I'm with you on the global corporate governance agenda.

MarshND  posted on  2016-03-05   17:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: MarshND (#40)

I think we should give trump a chance to advance the basics and pushback on the conventional thinking

How long has he been running already without ever coming forth with ONE plan that goes beyond a basic "I'll hire good managers to take care of it." explanation for the actual nuts and bolts of the plan?

What this tells me is that he HAS NO PLAN beyond promoting his trademark,the Trump name.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-05   17:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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