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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: Kristol Lays Out Strategy to Give White House to Hillary: Trump ‘Shouldn’t Win’
Source: VDare
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... se-hillary-trump-shouldnt-win/
Published: Mar 2, 2016
Author: John Nolte
Post Date: 2016-03-02 11:51:34 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 3055
Comments: 16

In order to defeat Donald Trump, The Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol admits he is prepared to hand Hillary Clinton the Oval Office. On Wednesday’s “Morning Joe,” the Republican Establishment leader laid out his plot to deprive Trump of the 50% of delegates necessary to secure the nomination. From there, the idea is to go into a brokered convention and cut a kamikaze deal that awards enough delegates to an “acceptable” candidate (who will have won far fewer votes, states, and delegates than Trump).

The problem with the Establishment brokering a behind-closed-door deal that hands the nomination to a Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), is that the backlash against the Republican Party is almost certain to hand Hillary Clinton the presidency.

If a bunch of rich, angry GOP elites rob Trump supporters of their victory, the blowback will result in so many voters staying home in November, Hillary wins. As NBC’s Chuck Todd pointed out last night, at this point the delegate math is such that the only way to stop Trump is through this scheme at the convention.

As you’ll see below, that outcome is preferable to Kristol, and by extension it is safe to assume that outcome is also fine with the rest of the Republican Establishment.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: The fact of the matter is that you know there is no historical precedent with someone doing as well as Candidate Trump did yesterday — winning New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada, [losing the nomination] has never happened before, and as you know there is a momentum, a forward progress–

BILL KRISTOL: Right, so we have to stop the momentum, I totally agree.

SCARBOROUGH: So that’s my question. There’s no cheering here. I am looking at facts.

KRISTOL: To your credit, you have correctly seen that this was not going to be the historically normal year, and it’s not, so maybe we go–

SCARBOROUGH: So how do you beat him?

KRISTOL: You have to beat him in Florida and Ohio, the first two winner- take-all states, which means there has to be a de facto agreement between the opposition candidates — between the resistance to Trump, which I am proud to be a part of, because I think he’d be a terrible nominee and a terrible president…

SCARBOROUGH: You have the authority to broker that deal right now?

KRISTOL: Well, they need to. They need to defer to Rubio in Florida and probably to Kasich in Ohio, and say, or imply, that if you are a Cruz voter in Ohio, and if you look up the day before the primary and it’s Trump 42%, Kasich 35% — vote for Kasich. And the truth is if Trump doesn’t win Florida and Ohio, it remains very much of an open race. …

Donald Trump [so far] has 35% of the popular vote and 47% of the delegates. That’s a lot better than having 24% of the popular vote and 25% of the delegates, granted. …

JOHN HEILEMANN: Just to go a little further on this topic of what Bill’s advocating: As you talk more and more to Republicans, who will say to you privately and sometimes publicly, that they would rather vote for Hillary Clinton than for Donald Trump, [these are the] people who are going to try to stop him — their attitude is: We know that would happen at a contested convention if we took the nomination away from a Donald Trump [who has won through] a plurality of delegates.

What would happen is that we would likely alienate his supporters and we would likely lose the presidential election. But their position is that it would be better for us to lose the [general] election than to have Donald Trump tear the Party in half as the nominee.

Now you can say that’s suicidal, but that is the posture of people [worried] about the negative effects down ballot.

KRISTOL: And [Trump] would still lose the election. And shouldn’t win the election, So, yeah, I agree.

This is a good time to ask where this scorch-earthed mentality was when America needed it most to stop Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012.


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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

Kristol's just a friggin liberal democrat who pretends to be a conservative.

NEOCONS are NOT conservatives, just better dressed democrats.

calcon  posted on  2016-03-02   12:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

" This is a good time to ask where this scorch-earthed mentality was when America needed it most to stop Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012. "

EXACTLY !!!

" In order to defeat Donald Trump, The Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol admits he is prepared to hand Hillary Clinton the Oval Office. "

Folks, this proves to any and all, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that the GOPe is the true enemy, and must be cut down to size. They are an "enemy within". Remember, Kristol is CFR, he is dedicated to the destruction of the USA and to bring about the NWO.

I despise that little smirky SOB, and his followers, and associates at CFR.

Kristol, and CFR are domestic enemies of the USA, and pray they all burn in Hell !

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

A friend will help you move ,But a good friend will help you move a body..

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-02   12:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nativist nationalist (#0) (Edited)

Kristol Lays Out Strategy to Give White House to Hillary: Trump ‘Shouldn’t Win’

Kristol, another neuotic asshole with a big mouth who is out to deliver us to another version of a destructive Merkal.

rlk  posted on  2016-03-02   17:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Stoner (#2) (Edited)

I personally cannot stand DT, and have an inkling that he may be both dangerously inexperienced or just plain dangerous. With that said, I will vote for Trump just to a boot up Kristols ass and a middle finger to the GOP.

jeremiad  posted on  2016-03-02   19:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

The Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol admits he is prepared to hand Hillary Clinton the Oval Office.

Another phuckin' prevaricating charlatan = Bill Kristol.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-03-02   21:46:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

The problem with the Establishment brokering a behind-closed-door deal that hands the nomination to a Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), is that the backlash against the Republican Party is almost certain to hand Hillary Clinton the presidency.

Their real problem is this isn't the 1930's and there is no such critter as a "behind the scenes deal" and no such thing as political secrets anymore.

Not only that,but this isn't a typical political secret where a couple of pols got together and conspired to screw another pol that stepped out of line. This is a case of the political handlers,the "MASTER CLASS" conspiring in the open to screw the voters.

I really,REALLY hope they do this because it will be the equivalent of dropping a nuclear political bomb on GOP Headquarters. The alleged Republican Party will just disappear as a political organization,and the globalist Israel First assholes like Kristol won't even be able to BUY influence with whatever replaces it because they will have outed themselves as anti-American traitors.

With any luck at all,it might even be the spark that sets of The American Revolution,Part 2.

Unintended Consequences,and all dat.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-03   8:01:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

Israel First cannot stand the idea of America First.

Well,they HAVE spent decades clawing,blackmailing,lying,and stabbing people in the back behind the scenes to grab power without bothering to run for office themselves,so who can blame them for panicking when they see it all slipping out of their hands at the last moment?

Unfortunately,it probably won't lead to them being hanged for treason,but who knows what will happen once the ball starts rolling?

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-03   8:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: calcon (#1)

Kristol's just a friggin liberal democrat who pretends to be a conservative.

That's giving him credit he doesn't deserve. There is NOTHING the least bit "liberal" about communists or their adult older brothers,fascists.

George Washington,Thomas Jefferson,Ben Franklin,etc,etc,etc were liberals.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-03   8:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jeremiad (#4)

I personally cannot stand DT, and have an inkling that he may be both dangerously inexperienced or just plain dangerous.

I am convinced he is a narcissistic sociopath that has no business ever being within a mile of nuclear launch codes,but the good news is this is why we have VP's.

IF that loon wins the primaries and doesn't drop out afterwards,the key will be to make sure his VP running mate is a actual conservative.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-03   8:09:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sneakypete (#9)

Agreed, I will vote for Trump as long as he has a solid veep. Who am I kidding, anybody but Sanders, or Hill and Bill will do.

jeremiad  posted on  2016-03-03   12:29:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: jeremiad (#10)

Agreed, I will vote for Trump as long as he has a solid veep. Who am I kidding, anybody but Sanders, or Hill and Bill will do.

What will we have gained if some backdoor deal is made and he picks Rubio,JEB,Christy,or even Lady Lindsey for his running mate?

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-03   16:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete (#11)

I guess it would be check and mate in your scenario.

jeremiad  posted on  2016-03-04   10:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sneakypete (#7)

" who knows what will happen once the ball starts rolling? "

Well, none of us knows. But I would imagine it will get quite bloody & ugly.

I would also imagine there will be a number that will have reason to regret some of their past decisions & actions!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

A friend will help you move ,But a good friend will help you move a body..

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-04   11:09:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Stoner (#13)

I would also imagine there will be a number that will have reason to regret some of their past decisions & actions!

I'm betting there will be thousands or more who end up regretting some of their recent actions. People who are normally reserved and quiet that suddenly release decades of pent up emotions and anger can go batshit crazy until the dust settles and they look around and see what they have done.

IF the citizens "turn their dogs loose",it's going to get ugly on a biblical scale.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-04   11:27:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#14)

" IF the citizens "turn their dogs loose",it's going to get ugly on a biblical scale. "

Thats right. Therefore, it would be wise for the establishment to throttle back on pissing all over the citizens.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

A friend will help you move ,But a good friend will help you move a body..

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-04   12:09:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Stoner (#15)

Thats right. Therefore, it would be wise for the establishment to throttle back on pissing all over the citizens.

Nah,it's gone so far now nothing short of releasing the hounds can put it all back together.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-04   12:35:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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