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Title: So who to vote for
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Published: Feb 27, 2016
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2016-02-27 02:11:45 by A K A Stone
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Views: 12472
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Who to vote for. Who knows. We should pray and ask Gods guidance and reflect on who would be best to lead our nation. My views are most closely aligned with Ted Cruz. Can Ted Cruz win? o me he seems to be an honorable man. I don't buy all this he is a liar stuff. If he won the nomination I would certainly vote for him. I'd trust him most to make good supreme court appointments. The problem with Cruz in my view is that I think he is probably a bit of a globalist. He seems to favor these international agreements that are stripping us of our soverignity Not to the degree of Obama or others but still seems to be part of that system. Rubio. I never trusted him from the start. I never considered him tea party. I guess we all have our own views of what tea party is. I didn't trust him because all these fox people seemed to be pushing him real hard. Then his gang of 8 thing confirmed it and I have dismissed him. Maybe he isn't the worse. I think his supreme court picks would be better then Hillarys. But I also think Rubio is a globalist and his picks would reflect that. So there would be good and bad in his choices. Ben Carson. He is written off. But now that I think of it he may be the best person running. Some may mock me for that but that is ok. Just because he is a moral man and his heart would be looking out for our best intrests. I heard him say that he thought cities and rural areas should have different laws regarding the second amendment. I disagree with him on that. But I don't think he wants to confiscate our guns or anything. Who knows maybe I'll vote for him. Kasich. I used to like him. Used to respect him. Then he voted for the Brady bill and supported gun control. So I didn't vote for him when he ran for Governor in whatever year it was he originally ran. I don't remember if I voted for him when he ran a second time. Don't really like him. But I don't hate him either. Trump. I like his toughness and direct talk. I like his image. I like a lot of what he wants to do. Like build a wall. That sounds good to me and many others. Though in the back of my mind I do wonder if it could someday become a wall to keep us in. I want America to be good again. I want us to win as he says. For us to build stuff here so that our people will have jobs. We are a people. We should look out for our own people first. Not integrate us into a system that makes us compete with people who are essentially slaves. That is short sighted and not in our best long term interests. Trump also has proven leadership abilities. When he wants to make it more easy to sue people for slander. That raises some concerns. There are lies in the media though. If they could be rooted out we would be better off. If that is possible. There are some other things also. I'm still thinking about voting for Trump also. That is where I am at.
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#18. To: SOSO (#16)
Apparently not to you.
Apparently not to you. What? You are a moron. F*ck off. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
You're dripping hatred for original intent all over your keyboard.
Nope. I simply said what's good for the goose is good for the gander. "The voting record of every elected official in DC is a matter of public record." That's after the fact. It's too late then. I'm talking about before the vote. Imagine you're the lone Republican senator blocking the bill to build the wall. Trump holds a press conference and passes on this fact to your constituents who want the wall. What is in your future besides a rail, tar and feathers?
"Hold it! The next man makes a move the loser gets it."
Cruz represents the establishment.
I'm talking about before the vote. Wow. I didn't know that Dollar Donald was a mind reader and can also tell the future. What a guy. He should not even bother to campaign as he already knows the outcome потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
You don't have to be a mind reader to pressure a congresscritter to make a public commitment before a vote. You're so lame.
Trump has already promised he'll negotiate with the Dems. "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato
How come there are zero pictures of Donald J. Trump with a gun? He's the only R without gun pics. Like Reagan.
Don't point a gun at someone unless you intend to use it.
You can tell that by the time he called out Mitch McConnell on the Senate floor for being a liar during the Export import Bank negotiations . You can tell that by the times he's had filibusters by himself or with a couple other Senators attempting to block establishment sell outs . He alone did a 21 hour filibuster trying to block Obamacare . He alone tried to add defunding of Planned Parenthood in the budget negotiations . "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato
Like Reagan. this is the comment I was responding to: 'He'll (Cruz)get to Washington and cave, just like many others before him. He'll be forced to negotiate with Democrats in order to get anything through Congress.' Do you think Reagan's negotiations were cave ins ? I have already pointed out that Cruz 'history suggests he won't cave even if it means not having friends in his own party. "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato
Nope. He negotiated like Trump.
?? a bullet, an arrow, a knife in the throat, 400 lb of concrete on your feet in 100 ft of water, a stick of dynamite under your car, a brake job when traveling a curvy mountain road ? Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood A friend will help you move ,But a good friend will help you move a body..
Absolutely true. They only do this stuff because "We,the people" have been letting them get away with it because we have been too trusting and too gullible. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Nope. He negotiated like Trump. My $0.02: As much as we admire Ronald Reagan and the fact that he was the most conservative president since Calvin Coolidge, we need to be honest about what he accomplished. And in the long term, it wasn't really much. (no reflection on him, it's a reflection on the corrupt political system) Government still grew under his watch (albeit more slowly than it might have otherwise). And he was forced to put GHW Bush on his ticket as his VP. Who - upon his election in '88 - basically undid all the gains that Reagan and conservatism had made. And his (Bush I's) failed presidency led to the Xlintons. And the rest is history. "Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD . . . " ~Psalm 33:12a
What do YOU think will happen to the Dim vote tally if they start screaming about non-citizens not having any rights? Think that will go over well with the His and Her Panics? ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
He did okay with PATCO, but he was working with a Rat-heavy House most of the time. The present day GOPe leadership has no such excuse.
I agree with most of the comments here, Our nation faces many, many huge issues. IMHO, the two largest issues are: 1. Immigration, legal & illegal 2. Trade If we do not get those under control, and turned around to the USA's favor, our nation will cease to exist. Of everybody running, IMHO only Trump has the will, and the ability to deal with those, to the benefit of the USA! As someone said before, Pete I think, we could be heading to a civil war. To head that off, we have only one or two remaining chances to use the ballot box. Therefore, I will vote for Trump. I pray that is the correct thing to do! Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood A friend will help you move ,But a good friend will help you move a body..
Not until the SC rules it is un-Constitutional. What they generally do is refuse to hear cases that presidents push. It's been that way ever since Dishonest Abe threatened to send US Marshals to arrest the entire SC and put them in a military prison for the duration of the war if they published their opinion that the South had the legal right to leave the union and he did NOT have the legal right to declare war on them for doing so. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Thanks for pointing that out Pete. Many, if not most are unaware of that bit of history. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood A friend will help you move ,But a good friend will help you move a body..
Do you think they don't know the results of the vote until after the vote? Hint: Look up the job duties of the congressional whip. Or watch House of Cards on Netflix.
I read where he said he's work with Democrats, not negotiate with them. But I could have missed it. Could you point that out for me so I could see that statement in context?
Do you think they don't know the results of the vote until after the vote? Not that much earlier and certainly not enough ahead of time to lobby through "the people" with any effectiveness. Must people have no idea what is coming out for vote in Congress even when the MSM focuses on it. Just recall the lead up to the voting on Obamacare. Whatever backlash there was by We The People was well after the fact when it was too late to do anything about it. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Your point is meaningless. The Democratic Party in both the House and Senate maintained majority representation in Congress. 0bamakare was not a bi-party piece of legislation. America was broken by majority rules in the Congress.
Not until the SC rules it is un-Constitutional. How many times has a POTUS executive office been challenged in the courts? I am having a hard time remembering any in my adult lifetime up to Obama's blatant abuse of power and disregard for the Constitution. FTR Washington was the first POTUS to sh*t on the Constitution and was able to get SCOTUS to retroactively rationalize his action long after there was any recourse of those abused (aka the Whiskey Rebellion). потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
You don't have to be a mind reader to pressure a congresscritter to make a public commitment before a vote. You're so lame. Oh, just like Trump's pledge to support the REP nominee even if it's not he? You are a moron. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Your comment is incomprehensible as it doesn't relate to the discussion. I suggest that you read the thread first before you chime in again. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Executive Orders ARE Constitutional. They are a part of the checks and balances that a president can use to right a wrong that fell between the cracks. They are Constitutional because Congress can vote to overrule them if they wish. I'm not sure,but I think the SC can also issue an opinion that any individual XO is un-Constitutional. Providing of course we ever get a SC with stones. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/01/26/trump-ill-work-with-democrats/ "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato
Exactly! But once he finishes stomping the cuckservatives, it appears the pledge will never be put to the test. You'll just have to look to your Lindsey Graham poster for consolation.
The word "negotiate" doesn't appear in your linked article, tomder55. Rather than just confess to that, you disingenuously played one of the lamest dodges there is.
There will very likely be a three Party race for POTUS this year. "You'll just have to look to your Lindsey Graham poster for consolation. You look to the southern queen for your consolation. Perhaps he'll let you rub his leg. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
don't be silly . I'll leave it to others to determine if this is not indicating that he will negotiate with the Dems . “So Donald, instinctively, and you are a person of instinct, the candidate of instinct, what is your instinct about who right now on the Democratic side of the aisle, who would you be able to deal with to cut a deal, any kind of a deal? What’s your instinct on that?” Trump replied to the question about who he could deal with, Pelosi, Reid ,and Shmucky Chucky ,who is a candidate to be the Dem leader in the Senate. negotiate :verb (used without object), negotiated, negotiating. 1. to deal or bargain with another or others, as in the preparation of a treaty or contract or in preliminaries to a business deal. "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato
Caught lying, doubles down. Typical.
Yep, the Libertarians will run some crackpot, just like they always do. Thanks for the pointless point.
Your link said Trump would work with Democrats. That's not the same as negotiating with Democrats in order to pass legislation. Which is what Cruz would have to do.
come on the difference is like dancing on the head of a pin .. Roscoe gave me that line too. You know what the question pertained to and you know what his answer inferred . I'll leave it for everyone to parse as they see fit. "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato
So it doesn't matter if the content of the executive order is Constitutional or not?
#19. To: Roscoe (#18)
So it doesn't matter if the content of the executive order is Constitutional or not?
#20. To: hondo68 (#17)
#21. To: SOSO (#19)
#22. To: SOSO (#15)
"So you endorse what Obama has done."
#23. To: Roscoe (#20)
#24. To: Rufus T Firefly (#3)
I don't see Cruz getting the nomination (he's too hated by the establishment), but if he does I will vote for him...
#25. To: misterwhite (#22)
That's after the fact. It's too late then.
#26. To: SOSO (#25)
mind reader
#27. To: misterwhite (#9)
He'll get to Washington and cave, just like many others before him. He'll be forced to negotiate with Democrats in order to get anything through Congress.
#28. To: Roscoe (#20)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#29. To: tomder55 (#27)
he'll negotiate with the Dems.
#30. To: hondo68 (#28)
#31. To: rlk (#24)
Cruz represents the establishment.
#32. To: Roscoe (#29)
he'll negotiate with the Dems.
#33. To: tomder55 (#32)
Do you think Reagan's negotiations were cave ins ?
#34. To: misterwhite (#22)
" What is in your future besides a rail, tar and feathers? "
#35. To: Rufus T Firefly (#7)
All of us at one time or another have pointed to INDIVIDUALS (Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, Xlinton, Bush or Zero) for the reason the US has gone into the toilet. But in all truth - it's not them, it's us. We've let it happen. We've ceded the power that We The People collectively have to corrupt individuals and parties.
#36. To: Roscoe, tomder55 (#33)
Do you think Reagan's negotiations were cave ins ?
#37. To: misterwhite (#9)
Two problems with Cruz. First, until the USSC weighs in and declares him a natural born citizen, I'm concerned about that. He may very well be a natural born citizen. But until it's settled, I'm afraid many voters will be reluctant to "waste their vote" on someone who may be declared ineligible down the road. The MSM and the Democrats haven't even started to hit him on this issue. They're waiting and that scares me.
#38. To: Rufus T Firefly (#36)
Government still grew under his watch (albeit more slowly than it might have otherwise).
#39. To: A K A Stone, all (#0)
#40. To: SOSO (#16)
So it doesn't matter if the content of the executive order is Constitutional or not?
#41. To: sneakypete (#40)
" What they generally do is refuse to hear cases that presidents push. It's been that way ever since Dishonest Abe threatened to send US Marshals to arrest the entire SC and put them in a military prison for the duration of the war if they published their opinion that the South had the legal right to leave the union and he did NOT have the legal right to declare war on them for doing so. "
#42. To: SOSO (#25)
(Edited)
"Wow. I didn't know that Dollar Donald was a mind reader and can also tell the future."
#43. To: tomder55 (#27)
"Trump has already promised he'll negotiate with the Dems."
#44. To: misterwhite (#42)
"Wow. I didn't know that Dollar Donald was a mind reader and can also tell the future."
#45. To: SOSO (#44)
Not that much earlier and certainly not enough ahead of time to lobby through "the people" with any effectiveness. Must people have no idea what is coming out for vote in Congress even when the MSM focuses on it. Just recall the lead up to the voting on Obamacare. Whatever backlash there was by We The People was well after the fact when it was too late to do anything about it.
#46. To: sneakypete (#40)
So it doesn't matter if the content of the executive order is Constitutional or not?
#47. To: Roscoe (#26)
mind reader
#48. To: buckeroo (#45)
Your point is meaningless. The Democratic Party in both the House and Senate maintained majority representation in Congress. 0bamakare was not a bi-party piece of legislation.
#49. To: SOSO (#46)
FTR Washington was the first POTUS to sh*t on the Constitution and was able to get SCOTUS to retroactively rationalize his action long after there was any recourse of those abused (aka the Whiskey Rebellion).
#50. To: misterwhite (#43)
I read where he said he's work with Democrats, not negotiate with them. But I could have missed it. Could you point that out for me so I could see that statement in context?
#51. To: SOSO (#47)
just like Trump's pledge to support the REP nominee even if it's not he?
#52. To: tomder55 (#50)
"I read where he said he's work with Democrats, not negotiate with them." -misterwhite
#53. To: Roscoe (#51)
But once he finishes stomping the cuckservatives, it appears the pledge will never be put to the test.
#54. To: Roscoe (#52)
#55. To: tomder55 (#54)
#56. To: SOSO (#53)
There will very likely be a three Party race for POTUS this year.
#57. To: tomder55 (#50)
#58. To: misterwhite (#57)
Your link said Trump would work with Democrats. That's not the same as negotiating with Democrats in order to pass legislation. Which is what Cruz would have to do.
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