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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In politics and politicians See other politics and politicians Articles Title: Trump says Cruz is "sick" Source: winkydinknews URL Source: http://www.winknews.com/2016/02/23/ ... -sick-as-nevada-caucuses-loom/ Published: Feb 23, 2016 Author: AP Post Date: 2016-02-23 08:52:38 by Willie Green Keywords: None Views: 1117 Comments: 14 LAS VEGAS (AP) – The Republican presidential candidates are focused on Nevada and its caucuses today. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is continuing to lash out at rival Ted Cruz. Trump tells a crowd of thousands in Las Vegas, “This guy is sick. There’s something wrong with this guy.” Trump took specific issue with an ad Cruz’s campaign has been airing that accuses Trump of being against turning over federal land in Nevada to state control. But Trump says it’s “not a subject I know anything about.” “Something to do with I want to take away your land? And I want to keep it in the federal government? I don’t even know what the hell they’re talking about,” Trump said. Marco Rubio says a Ted Cruz aide who was asked to resign on Monday is “a fall guy” who was simply executing a culture of dishonesty created by his rival. Rubio has told reporters aboard his campaign plane on Monday night that he “felt bad” for Rick Tyler. Tyler was asked to resign earlier in the day after spreading a false news story that Rubio had criticized the Bible. Rubio says Tyler was “executing a culture that exists in that campaign. The bigger issue is the culture that’s been created.” Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Willie Green (#0) “Something to do with I want to take away your land? And I want to keep it in the federal government? I don’t even know what the hell they’re talking about,” Trump said. This is refreshing. It's an intense local issue, and obscure on the national level. I'm sure Trump will get himself smart on the subject. But his point stands: Look, I didn't SAY anything about this issue because I am not FAMILIAR with the issue. I don't HAVE a position yet, so for this guy to say that my position is this supposedly terrible thing - that's just made up. Cruz is getting pummelled on honesty and his star is fading. His supporters will mostly migrate to Trump. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-02-23   10:03:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Willie Green (#0) Trump tells a crowd of thousands in Las Vegas, “This guy is sick. There’s something wrong with this guy.” The same line of BS he used against Carson. "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato tomder55  posted on  2016-02-23   10:07:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Willie Green (#0) “Something to do with I want to take away your land? And I want to keep it in the federal government? I don’t even know what the hell they’re talking about,” He's lying . He clearly said he wanted the Federal Government to retain control of the western lands . “I don’t like the idea because I want to keep the lands great, and you don’t know what the state is going to do,” “I mean, are they going to sell if they get into a little bit of trouble? And I don’t think it’s something that should be sold.” "We have to be great stewards of this land. This is magnificent land. And we have to be great stewards of this land." http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-dont-hand-federal-lands-to-states/ "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato tomder55  posted on  2016-02-23   10:14:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: Vicomte13 (#1) This is refreshing. It's an intense local issue, and obscure on the national level. I'm sure Trump will get himself smart on the subject. But his point stands: 85% of the land in the state of Nevada is federally owned . Overall ,the Federal government owns 30% of the land of the nation . On no level is that right . "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato tomder55  posted on  2016-02-23   10:17:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: tomder55 (#4) 85% of the land in the state of Nevada is federally owned . So rather than begin selling, or leasing, or auctioning those lands into private hands, you want the property transferred from one government to another. No wonder you hate Trump. Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-23   10:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: tomder55 (#4) Overall ,the Federal government owns 30% of the land of the nation . On no level is that right . The Federal government originally owned 100% of it. It was the Federal government that took that land by main force from Mexico, and then purchased the rightful title to it for cash in the Treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo. The federal government then subdivided part of it and established a territorial government there, to begin the process by which Nevada would eventually become a state. Nevada is high and arid, not particularly good for anything. So the place stayed sparsely populated. Still is. Today, the greatest value in that land is minerals, they belong to the federal government, and the profits from the exploitation from those minerals can go into the federal offers. Nothing wrong with that. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-02-23   10:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Roscoe (#5) So rather than begin selling, or leasing, or auctioning those lands into private hands, you want the property transferred from one government to another. No wonder you hate Trump I'm not saying the states would be better managers . But they can't be much worse .The state should own the vast majority of the land and decide if it should be sold off.The federal government owns about 650 million acres of land ,the vast majority in the western States. The Eastern states would not tolerate that arrangement . It's not like the days of the 19th century where the land holds no values except grazing . We know that to be true because the Federal government has no problem selling mineral rights that they never permit to be exercised .Instead of the lands earning money ,the Federal agencies ,that manages the land that's valued in the tens of billions of dollars,cost taxpayers over $2 billion per year. "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato tomder55  posted on  2016-02-23   10:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: Vicomte13 (#6) see comment #7 "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato tomder55  posted on  2016-02-23   10:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: tomder55 (#8) I would prefer that the federal (and state) governments set up federal (and state) mining and oil exploitation companies, hire miners and roughnecks as civil servants, and exploit federal and state mineral wealth directly. This will remove both the financiers and the overpaid executives (exploitation of resources is not a brainpower-intense industry that requires massive profits for executives and shareholders). All of that excess profit from civil-servant salaried executives (vice private executives and shareholder dividends) would go directly into the treasury, to pay down the debt and eventually allow taxes to be reduced. That's what I prefer to see. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-02-23   10:58:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: Vicomte13 (#9) (Edited) So you think governments can manage better than the private industry ? All you need to do is look at the Post Office to see that's not true . My beef is part efficiency and a big part philosophy . The federal government was not created to be the owner of the land. We rebelled against the sovereign right of kings land ownership. There has also been an important principle since the founding . That is the principle of the “Equal Footing Doctrine,” that all states admitted to the Union are on equal footing with the 13 states already in the Union at that time of ratification.Where is the equality for the Western states if the vast majority of their land ,mass is federally owned ? As far as I'm concerned ,the Federal government forfeited their claim when the states incorporated from the territories . "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato tomder55  posted on  2016-02-23   12:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: tomder55 (#10) So you think governments can manage better than the private industry ? All you need to do is look at the Post Office to see that's not true . I look at the US Navy, the French nuclear power industry, the government-owned power systems in so many Midwestern states, the Federal Farm Credit Banks and the state-run Bank of North Dakota, and I see that government can do a fine job in basic business. Where it's government assets - oil and gas, I want the people to have the profit from that, not privatize it. Put it in the Treasury and lower our taxes. We did not "rebel against the sovereign right of kings land ownership". We rebelled against taxes and against navigation acts that blocked our trade. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-02-23   13:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Vicomte13 (#11) You can say many good things about the US military . But one of them would not be that they are efficiently managed. You can't hardly blame them I guess. They have a half-trillion dollar budget and exemption from federal audits . The Navy ? lol The so called green Navy has an average fuel cost of $26 per gallon .In today's market that's obscene. The new Gerald Ford class carriers cost $15 billion with a $ 1billion overrun costs . This in an age where it can be argued that carriers are becoming obsolete because of the range of land based missiles. The joint strike fighter F-35 has costs about a half trillion and has not yet flown in combat after 12 years in development . There are many such examples of programs that were cut short and scrapped after multi-millions spent . "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato tomder55  posted on  2016-02-23   14:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: Willie Green (#0) here is the interview . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ww2eDuvOvE "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato tomder55  posted on  2016-02-23   16:17:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: tomder55 (#12) exemption from federal audits DCMA Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-24   6:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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