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Opinions/Editorials Title: The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Bullies Both Trump and Hillary are also getting a majority of their support from aging baby boomers as well. This week I took an informal panel from people in this age group that I know who are supporting either of these candidates, or were referred to me by friends or family members who knew I was seeking people in this age group who are supporting Trump or Hillary. My findings were that, at least in my sample group, supporters of both of these baby boomer candidates had a lot in common. At the end of the day, I was left with the impression that baby-boomers who support Trump or Hillary are pro-bullying, and Im not just phrasing it that way because Im prone towards the bombastic. I best disclaim that I am not a psychologist. Im a regular guy who likes politics and talking to others about politics. The conversations Im going to report to you are with other regular folks. Some I knew before hand, others not. While I did Google traits of bullies to shape how I presented this story to you, I didnt cherry-pick my panels quotes to support my narrative. I spoke with 10 people, five in favor of each candidate. All of the responses are included, though if responses were similar, I combined them into the clearest response and indicated how many people said this sort of thing. Im not such a dolt that I would claim these views represent entire voting blocks. I know baby boomers who think similarly as I do on these issues. I specifically sought out Trump and Hillary supporters in that age demographic. I dont believe or present my findings as scientific in any manner. However, the human experience, no matter how individualized or intersected, does have commonplaces to be considered. I do not believe in the hive-mind. I believe in individuals. However, individuals often subscribe to a hive-mind in order to feel like part of a community. Supporting political candidates can have that effect. I know because I try to be careful of that trap myself. Were all human. Some of us care about other humans more than others, though. Bullies feel entitled to claim power of the people they dominate, and to take their possessions as their own. Every single one of the ten Trump and Hillary supporters who spoke with me diminished Bernie supporters as just wanting free stuff. When I pushed back on that, asking if the citizenry doesnt deserve to dictate the government services their tax dollars support, every single one of the Trump and Hillary supporters who spoke with me told me that they werent given healthcare or education, so future generations dont deserve to get it either. Nobody ever helped me, was a common theme. I also found it quite interesting that both Trump and Hillary supporters assume that Bernie supporters will go with their candidate after the primary contests, yet nobody could give me an answer as to why they would automatically pick up this sizable voting block. The answer was always, they will have to. Hillarys people felt that as Hillary would be the Democratic nominee, Bernies supporters would have to end up supporting her. Trumps supporters believed that since Trump would then be the only anti-establishment candidate left, Bernies supporters would have to back the billionaire. Bullies dont consider the feelings or beliefs of the people they seek to dominate. They only consider their own. I asked both groups if their candidate wasnt exactly what Bernie and his supporters were standing up to, be it billionaires or center-right establishment candidates. The common theme in their replies was that it doesnt matter, but here is what they said: Its her turn. (x2) Theyre losers. Theyre stupid hippies. (x2) Theyre stupid hipsters. Theyre stupid. (x3) Bunch of Communists. These answers were fairly identical as those when I asked why these baby-boomers I spoke with thought an overwhelming majority of millennial voters were backing Sanders. They dont know how things work. (x2) They dont understand reality. Theyll grow up after they lose. (x2) Theyre stupid. (x3) Theyre Communists. Theyre losers. 3. Lies Versus Critical Thinking Bullies lack the emotional and intellectual depth to think about things critically. They have a me versus the world point of view, which allows them to rationalize an anything to win strategy involving lies and violence to try to conquer those they seek to dominate. I confronted Hillary supporters with policy pivots Secretary Clinton has made throughout the primaries, as well as direct lie campaigning examples from either former President Clinton, Mrs. Clinton, their daughter or their surrogates. I confronted Trump supporters with examples of how he avoids talking about policy and direct lie campaigning examples from Mr. Trumps tweets and campaign materials. For example, a Hillary supporter may have been given something the Clinton campaign said to imply Bernie Sanders would scrap Obamacare, alongside the fact that it was a lie, or how Secretary Clinton has been on both sides of issues like Social Security and abortion rights throughout the campaign. Trump supporters were shown things like times Mr. Trump was asked for specific policy ideas and responded vaguely about how hell hire the best people or he will make America win again, as well as direct lies about his opponents, such as implying Governor Jeb Bushs metaphor about mooning people meant that he was seeking to drop his pants in public. Here are the replies: Anything goes in politics. Its about winning. You have to fight dirty to win. (x3) You have to say what people want to hear. (x2) I vote for a person not their policies. Nobody will remember. It doesnt matter. Voters are stupid. You have to play them. Bullies use emotional domination to make their victims believe they are the only ones who care for them and that the victims survival or well-being is solely in the hands of the bully. When I asked the baby boomer Trump and Hillary supporters why they are supporting their candidate, I again noticed the lack of public policy concern. I was told: Its her turn. (x2) We need someone tough. (x2) She was right about Obama when she ran against him. Hes been Obamas biggest critic. Somebody has to fight for America. She knows how to play the game. No more politicians. I pick winners. The consideration of what is right and what is wrong escapes the bully, who cares only about getting their way. I presented Hillary supporters with the allegations against the Clinton Foundation for trading donations for arms deals while she was Secretary of State. To Trump supporters, I exhibited the fraud allegations surrounding Trump University, where he profited heavily from students who said they were ripped off. Again, the tone of responses were quite similar. Thats how you make money in America. People do all sorts of things to make money. Im sure Bush and Cheney did it too. Business is business. I dont see anything wrong with that. (x5) 6. Bullies See Threats Where They Do Not Exist Research shows bullies are often acting aggressively towards others as a means of self-protection, and do not take into account if a real threat exists or not. Clinton supporters were given reading material on her foreign policy in Iraq, Libya and Syria outlining failures of intelligence and lives lost. Trump supporters were asked to read an essay on how many American troops it would take to round up illegal immigrants throughout the United States. Only American lives matter. (x4) It has to be done. (x2) We have to protect our interests. You have to stand up to the bad guys. We have to be tough. We have to stop them. Because of their lack of empathy, bullies are unable to create the sort of bonds necessary to share well with others. I ended all of my conversations with five of each Hillary and Trump supporters by presenting them with FDRs Second New Deal, which I believe to be the eight tenants of Progressivism. It was FDRs dream to have these passed as amendments to the Constitution, guaranteeing all Americans: the right to employment, high enough incomes to support food, clothing and leisure for all Americans, farmers rights to fair income within a system of corporate agriculture, freedom from monopolies, the right to housing, the right to medical care, social security and the right to an education. All ten participants in my survey said they could get behind some of this. However, when I pivoted to relate each of these points to policies proposed by Bernie Sanders, the tone changed. I leave you with one line of commentary from each of these baby boomers who support either Trump or Hillary: So, they want more free stuff? Its probably communism. Was FDR a communist? America isnt about handouts. America is about helping yourself. We need poor people for the economy to function properly. Somebody has to do the (expletive) jobs. We have a population control problem. People not getting healthcare helps keep that in check. That sounds great but we cant afford it. I didnt get any of that and I did just fine. Terrorism is more important. Were not Europe. Here we go with the fairy tales again. There you have it. Now Ill be true to my bombastic nature. I believe that one generation of voters stands between the revitalization of America or a dystopian future. Baby boomers who support Hillary or Trump dont care about you or your children and your struggles. They dont care if you have a roof over your head or a dream in your heart. They care that you keep the fast food restaurants open 24 hours a day and seven days a week, because all they care about are themselves. You are a cog in the machine until you drop dead. We have countries to invade and immigrants to kick out. May God bless America. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top Page Up Full Thread Page Down Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 8.
#5. To: Willie Green (#0)
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You have no right to demand what other people have produced and take it from them. An economy is like crops in a field. It grows at some rate. You do not have a "right" to be employed in that economy if it has not yet grown to the point to provide you with employment. Economic rights come only after having assumed the responsibility of having prepared for them. If you don't make the effort to prepare yourself adaquately, you do not have a "right" to demand entry into an economy where your substandard foolishness will contribute nothing but catastrophe or compensitory effort at remedy from other people. There has been entirely too much talk about rights and to little talk about prudence and responsibility.
In other words Communism. The Constitution provides the overarching framework wherein We The People (a collective) can exercise the rights enumerated above if We The People (a collective) choose Communism, or something like it, as their form of economic, social and political society. We The People (a collective) elect officials to make and enforce laws. If We The People (a collective) don't like the laws and believe that the laws are surpressing or curtailing the desired rights then We The People (a collective) will replace the elected officials with those that will make and enforce the more desired laws to allow the pursuit of the rights We The People (a collective) want. If We The People (a collective) want a command and control economy We The People will ultimately get one. If We The People (a collective) want a racist society We The People will ultimately get one. And so on.
In other words Communism. --------------------------- In other words Communism. But more inportantly, Communism, built upon a verbally glorified compliance to indolence and theft.
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