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Title: Ann Coulter: GOP Baffled as Voters Rally to Popular Candidate
Source: Breitbart
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... rs-rally-to-popular-candidate/
Published: Feb 17, 2016
Author: Ann Coulter
Post Date: 2016-02-18 06:54:16 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 15543
Comments: 88

Donald Trump’s latest bombshell, claiming the Bush administration lied about weapons of mass destruction to get us into the Iraq War, is just him doing wheelies on the way to the nomination. He’s apparently decided it would be fun to taunt the entire GOP by demonstrating that he can say anything and his voters won’t care.

I wish he’d stop showing off, the little scamp, but maybe the GOP establishment will finally get the message that voters have been waiting a really long time for a candidate who would put Americans first. Not donors, not plutocrats, not foreigners, and certainly not foreign plutocrats (i.e., Fox News).

Trump is the first presidential candidate in 50 years who might conceivably: (1) deport illegal aliens, (2) build a wall, (3) block Muslim immigration, (4) flout political correctness, (5) bring manufacturing home, and (6) end the GOP’s neurotic compulsion to start wars in some godforsaken part of the world.

That’s all that matters! Are you listening yet, RNC?

There is not another candidate who agrees with Trump on all these positions. Maybe one issue, but not all of them — and if it’s immigration, they would be lying.

Even Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) still refuses to say he’d deport illegal aliens (unless they’re arrested for breaking some other law), build a wall (instead he talks about “border security,” which is code for: No Wall), or reduce legal immigration at all.

Trump is like a greatest-hits album. The two political parties are the record companies, refusing to put all the hits on one album and instead forcing us to choose between Republicans who will depress wages through immigration and bad trade deals, or Democrats who pretend to care about working-class Americans while sacralizing abortion and gay marriage.

Trump is right about President Bush not keeping us safe — though not about his “Bush lied” argument that makes me want to strangle him. This is what Trump said last October on “Coyote News Sunday” (FNC) about how things would have been different on 9/11 under President Trump:

“Well, I would have been much different, I must tell you. … I am extremely, extremely tough on illegal immigration. I’m extremely tough on people coming into this country. I believe that if I were running things, I doubt … that those people would have been in the country.”

And that was before Trump announced his plan for a temporary ban on Muslim immigration! (By contrast, as governor of Florida, Jeb! aggressively pushed a bill to allow illegal aliens to get driver’s licenses, less than three years AFTER 13 of 19 hijackers used Florida driver’s licenses to board the planes on 9/11.)

It is apparently considered less controversial to send a million troops to the Middle East than to stop printing visas for would-be terrorists.

It’s not just George W. Bush’s open-borders policy that cries out for re-examination. During a debate with Al Gore one year before the 9/11 attack — committed by Arabs on U.S. commercial airlines — he pre-emptively denounced the racial profiling of Arabs by airport security.

The Wall Street Journal proclaimed that “the ‘racial profiling’ issue might help Bush win Michigan.” (Good call, WSJ! Bush lost Michigan, anyway.)

In June 2001 — three months before the attack committed by Arabs on U.S. commercial airlines — the Bush administration undertook a study to ensure that Arabs were not being disproportionately stopped by airport security.

When U.S. Airways ticket agent Michael Tuohey laid eyes on Mohamed Atta on the morning of 9/11, he got a “chill” and thought to himself, “If this guy doesn’t look like an Arab terrorist, then nothing does.” But then, he says, he gave himself a politically correct “slap,” and handed Atta his ticket.

Atta proceeded to murder 3,000 Americans. But at least no undue scrutiny of Arabs was taking place at U.S. Airports!

The Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)s, Nikki Haleys, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)s, Jeb!, Zeppo and Shemp Bushes of the GOP say: “Vote for me — we may have a terrorist attack, but at least we’ll know we did the right thing!” Trump says: “I’m going to protect you.”

That’s why it doesn’t matter when Trump pops off and says things that are not conservative orthodoxy — or even true!

Even if you think Trump is a libertine, shallow narcissist, you know he will do what no other Republican will: Go to Washington, kick ass, mock political correctness, build a wall, deport illegals, bring manufacturing home, and end the GOP’s peculiar fixation with remaking the Muslim world.

This is our last chance. It’s similar to the “point of no return” global warming alarmists keep talking about, except our data isn’t fake.

At our current rate of immigration/transformation, if we don’t break the donor fever grip now, we never will. This kind of correction isn’t just a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, it’s a once-in-a-millennium opportunity.

The GOP didn’t hear us with Eric Cantor, with the 2014 election or with John Boehner. After all that, they still gave us Nikki Haley and Paul Ryan. President Trump is the last and only message they will understand. (1 image)

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#1. To: cranky (#0)

Donald Trump’s latest bombshell, claiming the Bush administration lied about weapons of mass destruction to get us into the Iraq War, is just him doing wheelies on the way to the nomination. He’s apparently decided it would be fun to taunt the entire GOP by demonstrating that he can say anything and his voters won’t care.

Disagree. Trump is showing his true moonbattery . Clearly the Trumpsters believe the Michael Moore ,Cindy Sheehad ,Code pinko lines about "Bush lied ....... " .

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-02-18   8:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tomder55 (#1)

Clearly the Trumpsters believe the Michael Moore ,Cindy Sheehad ,Code pinko lines about "Bush lied ....... " .

It's not clear to me

I have heard few, if any, 'Trumpsters' state any views on the subject, at all.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2016-02-18   8:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tomder55, redleghunter (#1)

Donald Trump’s latest bombshell, claiming the Bush administration lied about weapons of mass destruction to get us into the Iraq War, is just him doing wheelies on the way to the nomination. He’s apparently decided it would be fun to taunt the entire GOP by demonstrating that he can say anything and his voters won’t care. Disagree. Trump is showing his true moonbattery .

Were there any WMD's. NO there were not.

I knew it.

Bush is a fucking liar. He lied about WMD. You support of liars is telling of your character. You make excuses for those you support.

For example Tomder. The other day you lied. You flat out lied and said Al Qaueda was mentiuoned prior to 911. You said it was mentioned in 98 or something.

Why couldn't you put a link to it. Because you are lying or duped.

Al Qaeda was manufactured after 911. That is why you cannnot come up with one single linjk that mentions Al Qaeds prior to 911.

I'm flat out calling you a liar. Prove me wrong. You can't. You're not conservative save social issues. The rest of the time you sell us out to slave labor like Obasma. Like Clinton. Like that piece of shit Bush. All the Bushes are pieces of shit. Even Barbara the idiot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-18   9:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone, tomder55 (#3)

For example Tomder. The other day you lied. You flat out lied and said Al Qaueda was mentiuoned prior to 911. You said it was mentioned in 98 or something.

Well Tomder55 was a bit inaccurate. The Bin Laden cell started to be named Al Qaeda in 1988:

Al Qaeda timeline

* 1988-- Bin Laden founds a group he names al Qaeda, which in Arabic means "the base."

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-18   10:02:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: cranky (#0)

Trump is like a greatest-hits album. The two political parties are the record companies, refusing to put all the hits on one album and instead forcing us to choose between Republicans who will depress wages through immigration and bad trade deals, or Democrats who pretend to care about working-class Americans while sacralizing abortion and gay marriage.

She made her bones by being "Trump-Like" and throwing verbal bombs all over the place,but the quote above is 100 percent on target.

Many people have finally woken up to the the reality that the status quo is anti-American,and Trump is telling them what they want and need to hear.

The GOP of the last few decades is so out of touch they actually thought JEB would have a lock on the nomination because his last name is Bush,and they still don't entirely believe they were wrong.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-18   10:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: cranky (#2)

It's not clear to me

I have heard few, if any, 'Trumpsters' state any views on the subject, at all.

Me,either.

Seems to ME that almost all of them are focused entirely on illegal immigration and political refugees being brought into the country.

Everything else comes in a VERY distant second.

IF Trump is elected and IF he shuts down the border and shuts down the refugee programs like he claims he will,he could hump a dead sheep on live tv and his supporters would say "Well,everybody needs a hobby".

NOTHING in 2016 beats immigration as an issue. NOTHING.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-18   10:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: tomder55 (#1)

"Clearly the Trumpsters believe the Michael Moore ,Cindy Sheehad ,Code pinko lines about "Bush lied ....... "

Wrong conclusion. Trump is appealing to those primary voters who believe Bush lied. Why would he do that?

Because the stupid party made South Carolina an "open primary" state. So Trump is going after those Democrats.

If the primary was limited to only Republicans selecting their candidate, there would be no need for Trump to expand his appeal.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-18   10:28:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete, Fred Mertz (#5)

The GOP of the last few decades is so out of touch they actually thought JEB would have a lock on the nomination because his last name is Bush,and they still don't entirely believe they were wrong.

That was conventional wisdom a year ago. Ask Fred. He believed it. I bet you did too. I thought he most likely would get it also.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-18   10:30:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#3)

Were there any WMD's. NO there were not.

Yes,there was. The materials to manufacture them were supplied to Iraq by the Germans.

When they became an issue,Saddam had then destroyed or some say moved out of the country to unspecified locations. Yet not a single one of the ones claimed to have been moved out of the country have shown up anywhere,and AFAIK,nobody even bothered to look for them. What this tells me is Hussein only had a few and destroyed them all in a vain effort to prevent the US from invading Iraq because he had removed their justification.

Unfortunately for him and for us too,the neo-con warmongers and other employees of Saudi Arabia didn't care if he had any or not because they had that locked in as justification for the invasion.

I knew it.

No,you SUSPECTED it. As did I and many,many others.

Bush is a fucking liar. He lied about WMD.

Boy Jorge barely knew what day it was from one day to the next. He didn't lie,he just repeated the lies given to him by his trusted staff. Dumbya was a well-meaning and happy fool that doesn't seem to have a mean bone in his body.

His family,especially his mother who is the brains in that family,are a different matter,though. His brothers,including JEB are also clueless fools that are dominated by Babs and learned to follow orders as boys. Babs and Poppy sold out the US to Islam,just like Prescott Bush Sr sold out to the Nazi's,Poppy and Prescott Jr sold out to the Chinese Communists.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-18   10:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: redleghunter, tomder (#4)

For example Tomder. The other day you lied. You flat out lied and said Al Qaueda was mentiuoned prior to 911. You said it was mentioned in 98 or something. Well Tomder55 was a bit inaccurate. The Bin Laden cell started to be named Al Qaeda in 1988:

I don't mean to be such an ass to Tom.

But we were talking about the word Al Qaeda and when it was first mentioned.

I have never seen it in a mainstream article mentioned prior to 911.

Maybe I'm wrong and shouldn't call him a liar. Maybe he is mistaken. Maybe I am wrong. But when he uses the word moonbattery or whatever it was he said. When he uses it in that context it is an insult. So that is the reason for my tone.

No one has ever been able to show me an article dated prior to 911 that mentions AL Qaeda. I know they mentioned Bin Laden. Everyone knows that. I'm looking for the specific word "Al-Qaeda".

Some people take the governments word and believe most of what their spokesmen say.

Others need proof, real proof. Real clear explanations. Not a bunch of stuff that doesn't make sense and is easily disproved or contradicted.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-18   10:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: cranky (#0)

"Trump is the first presidential candidate in 50 years who might conceivably: (1) deport illegal aliens, (2) build a wall, (3) block Muslim immigration, (4) flout political correctness, (5) bring manufacturing home, and (6) end the GOP’s neurotic compulsion to start wars in some godforsaken part of the world."

But ... but ... what about gay marriage? Wahhhh! What about abortion? Wahhhh!

Conservatives get their panties in a wad because they think Trump is squishy on these issues. To them I say, "So f**king what?"

We've have Presidents who were strongly pro-life. What changed? NOTHING! We've had Presidents who were strongly pro-choice. What changed? NOTHING!

Do these idiots think we're electing a dictator who can simply decree an end to abortion or gay marriage?

I can't think of 6 other more important issues. Trump is right on.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-18   10:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#3)

Al Qaeda was manufactured after 911. That is why you cannnot come up with one single linjk that mentions Al Qaeds prior to 911.

Simply not true. I am giving you internet links like this one:

A history of terror: Al-Qaeda 1988-2008

However, you have quite a rare opportunity to dialogue with someone who was the DoD operations officer for the antiterrorism-force protection program from 1997- 1999. Al Qaeda was in all our information and target folders as we inspected US military facilities for compliance of anti-terror programs and force protection.

So you can either come back to some semblance of reality or keep believing in carnival barkers.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-18   10:41:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite (#7)

Wrong conclusion. Trump is appealing to those primary voters who believe Bush lied. Why would he do that?

Because the stupid party made South Carolina an "open primary" state. So Trump is going after those Democrats.

If the primary was limited to only Republicans selecting their candidate, there would be no need for Trump to expand his appeal.

perhaps it is political jiu jitsu to attack the former Republican President with malicious lies dreamed up by the political left . But the fact is there is no evidence that Bush lied and plenty of evidence that at best ,the intel he received from the intel agencies of the US and the world was faulty .

You see AKA Stone's response to me ? Clearly he thinks that Bush lied .

I've heard the same line from other paleocons ,and GW Bush haters I've talked to before . I've seen it on this site along with the nonsense that Bush was complicit in the 9-11 attacks.

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-02-18   10:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete (#9)

Yes,there was. The materials to manufacture them were supplied to Iraq by the Germans.

When they became an issue,Saddam had then destroyed or some say moved out of the country to unspecified locations. Yet not a single one of the ones claimed to have been moved out of the country have shown up anywhere,and AFAIK,nobody even bothered to look for them. What this tells me is Hussein only had a few and destroyed them all in a vain effort to prevent the US from invading Iraq because he had removed their justification.

A fair assessment. You seem to be the closest to reality.

However, I believe we are going to find out very soon where some of the stuff was holed up. Not all of it...some of it.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-18   10:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#10)

I don't mean to be such an ass to Tom.

But we were talking about the word Al Qaeda and when it was first mentioned.

I have never seen it in a mainstream article mentioned prior to 911.

Maybe I'm wrong and shouldn't call him a liar. Maybe he is mistaken. Maybe I am wrong. But when he uses the word moonbattery or whatever it was he said. When he uses it in that context it is an insult. So that is the reason for my tone.

No one has ever been able to show me an article dated prior to 911 that mentions AL Qaeda. I know they mentioned Bin Laden. Everyone knows that. I'm looking for the specific word "Al-Qaeda".

Some people take the governments word and believe most of what their spokesmen say.

Others need proof, real proof. Real clear explanations. Not a bunch of stuff that doesn't make sense and is easily disproved or contradicted.

I just pointed out you were wrong and Tom only knew of a later 90s mention of Al Qaeda. I gave you a 1988 mention with a confirmation of another site and also my personal testimony of my duties in the late 90s.

So you know what you should do right now.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-18   10:46:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: misterwhite (#11)

Conservatives get their panties in a wad because they think Trump is squishy on these issues. To them I say, "So f**king what?"

We've have Presidents who were strongly pro-life. What changed? NOTHING! We've had Presidents who were strongly pro-choice. What changed? NOTHING!

Do these idiots think we're electing a dictator who can simply decree an end to abortion or gay marriage?

I can't think of 6 other more important issues. Trump is right on.

Sorry to have to tell you that your position is immoral. It is wrong.

I'll tell you why.

Abortion is murder. Gay Marriage is evil.

Both of those are pure evil. They are more important issues. If you have an evil government that lets one group murder another group without sanction. That is evil.

Gay marriage is also evil. I won't explain why because anyone to stupid not to know that probably isn't worth saving.

Maiking the trains run on time isn't more important then having an evil society.

I take a different position then you do.

I'm thinking that Trump is going to make some progress on those issues.

Saying "So fucking what" to murder is wrong. It is immoral. You have a cold heart at times. You're right on a whole host of issues imo. But you have a blind spot to accept things that are wrong, things that are bad because there is some law or the government says so. You have a blind spot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-18   10:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: redleghunter (#14)

However, I believe we are going to find out very soon where some of the stuff was holed up. Not all of it...some of it.

Speaking of that convoy of trucks that exited Iraq before the invasion ?

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-02-18   10:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete (#5)

She made her bones by being "Trump-Like" and throwing verbal bombs all over the place,but the quote above is 100 percent on target.

She's still on the pubbie reservation, I'm afraid.

I thought Øbama's Mitch would have cured her of that but so far, it hasn't.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2016-02-18   10:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: redleghunter (#12)

Simply not true. I am giving you internet links like this one:

A history of terror: Al-Qaeda 1988-2008

I looked at your link It is from 2008. That isn't prior to 911.

Sure it mentions things from prior to 911.

I'm loooking for original documents dated prior to 911 that have the word "al qaeda" in them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-18   10:51:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tomder55 (#13)

I've heard the same line from other paleocons ,and GW Bush haters I've talked to before .

Earlier you said it was a code pink attack.

Thanks now for acknowledging that it isn't a left or right issue. It isn't conservative or liberal.

Some people just want the truth. We don't have that yet.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-18   10:54:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: tomder55 (#13)

"But the fact is there is no evidence that Bush lied"

I agree. But a lot of non-Republican voters believe it. AND I believe a lot of Republicans also have their doubts, but supported Bush because invading Iraq was the correct decision anyways.

Let's not forget. We invaded Iraq just 15 months after 9/11 and a whole bunch of Americans were still pissed off. Had Bush done nothing he may have been impeached.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-18   10:57:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#8)

That was conventional wisdom a year ago. Ask Fred. He believed it. I bet you did too.

I think it would be more accurate to say I believed the GOP masters thought that,and I feared the typical Republican voters would fall into line and make it a ugly reality.

This could still happen if Trump drops out late in the process and Cruz also drops out,and Republican voters are faced with voting for JEB or his younger clone Rubio in order to keep Sanders or Bubbette! out of the WH.

One thing I am positive about is that we,the people,need to do something after this election to kill off the political power of the DNC and the RNC because they only represent themselves and each other,they do NOT represent the people or America.

It's ridiculous to believe that out of a country of more than 300 million people we would STILL be stuck with candidates like the Bush Crime Family,the Clintons,McLunatic,Romney,Rubio,Sanders,and maybe even that asshat Bloomberg. IMHO not a single one of those goobers gives a damn about America. All they care about is themselves.

I have no idea how it will shake out IF it even happens,but one prime thing we need to do is build new parties so that money can't buy them or the globalists will win and American will disappear along with our Constitution.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-18   10:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: redleghunter, AKA Stone (#15)

In our original discussion I mentioned that a Lexus Nexus search revealed that the 1st time the US PRESS mentioned AQ was in 1996 quoting a State Dept memo. The reason for the delay because I have not found the original report on the web ;and the State Dept link is no longer working . There are secondary sources that I got that information from .

Therefore I will give you a secondary source .You can take it or leave it .

August 14, 1996: State Department Calls Bin Laden One of Most Significant Terrorism Sponsors in the World

The State Department issues a fact sheet on bin Laden, calling him “one of the most significant financial sponsors of Islamic extremist activities in the world today.” The text ties bin Laden to funding specific attacks, such as the attempt to kill dozens of US soldiers in Yemen in 1992 (see December 29, 1992). The fact sheet is also mentions the term “al-Qaeda,” leading to the first media reports using that term the next day (see August 14, 1996). The fact sheet also contains details about bin Laden’s finances, such as the allegation that he co-founded the Al-Shamal Islamic Bank in Sudan in 1990 with a group of wealthy Sudanese and capitalized it with $50 million of his fortune. [US Department of State, 8/14/1996; New York Times, 8/14/1996] Much of this information appears to come from al-Qaeda defector Jamal al-Fadl. The CIA had just finished debriefing him weeks before (see June 1996-April 1997).

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a081496biggestfinancier

I called Trump a moonbat . Not his supporters .

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-02-18   10:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#16) (Edited)

"They are more important issues."

I agree. But my point is that they're not important when considering a choice for President of the U.S.

In support of that statement, name one President since Roe v Wade who had any effect on abortion. I'm tired of being offered GOPe candidates who are strong social conservatives (but accomplish nothing in that area) while ignoring conservative fiscal issues.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-18   11:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: redleghunter, tomder55 (#12)

So you can either come back to some semblance of reality or keep believing in carnival barkers.

Some people would say and this is just off the top of my head.

Fire doesn't melt steel. Even if it was hit by a plane.

That it is a weird coincidence that the fighters at Andrews Air Force base happened to be on Patrol over the Atlantic Ocean far from being able to respond to 911. How lucky for the terrorists that the defense was out of town.

I wonder why the government changed the mission of Andrews AFT on like sept 12, 2001. What a weird coincidence.

No flight recorder audio between pilots and air traffic control ever released. Weird.

Paper passport found in rubble. Strange.

Poofs of smoke blowing out the side of the buildings. That's kind of strange.

Say what the FAA was required to shadow any plane that went a few thousand feet off course. I'm not sure of the actual distance but it wasn't a state away.

Man those terrorists must have been feeling lucky to take a long route across Ohio and looking around instead of going straight to target. They must have thoughat Allah was with them that day.

I looked for the debris from the crashed flight over Pennsylvania. It seems to have vanished.

I looked up the size of the planes and the pentagon. Do it yourself. Look at the pics. The hole doesn't appear big enough. Maybe there is a reason but that is an unanswered question.

So what do you expect a thinking person to think. Oh just a bunch of coincidences. I better not say anything or some people who watched the TV said that is moonbattery.

They offer nothing absolutely nothing. Then call people moonbats like they are some kind of genius. But in fact they are being what they accuse Trump of.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-18   11:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: redleghunter (#12)

So you can either come back to some semblance of reality or keep believing in carnival barkers.

That's going to be a tough choice for someone to make whose entire stance is based on emotion.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-18   11:03:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: tomder55 (#23)

I called Trump a moonbat . Not his supporters .

Ok fair enough. But people who agree with him, some at least probably take it as an attack on them also.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-18   11:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#22)

One thing I am positive about is that we,the people,need to do something after this election to kill off the political power of the DNC and the RNC

That is what Trump will do imo.

He will dig up dirt on them just for fun.

I can see him telling us what he found out about them. How it is worse then he imagined. Then doing something about it and burying them politically forever.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-18   11:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#16)

Abortion is murder. Gay Marriage is evil.

Both of those are pure evil. They are more important issues. If you have an evil government that lets one group murder another group without sanction. That is evil.

Gay marriage is also evil. I won't explain why because anyone to stupid not to know that probably isn't worth saving.

Maiking the trains run on time isn't more important then having an evil society.

I take a different position then you do.

I'm thinking that Trump is going to make some progress on those issues.

ROFLMAO! Trump is PRO LATE TERM ABORTION,AND PRO HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE.

Yeah,if he runs and is elected I also suspect he will "make some progress on those issues",but it won't be what you consider to be progress.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-18   11:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: cranky (#18)

She made her bones by being "Trump-Like" and throwing verbal bombs all over the place,but the quote above is 100 percent on target.

She's still on the pubbie reservation, I'm afraid.

That doesn't mean she isn't right about this.

I figured out a long time ago that all Coulters articles were designed with one purpose in mind,and that was to keep her name and face in the news in order to pump up her trademark to make her more money.

Even a self-promoting publicity whore is occasionally correct,though.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-18   11:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#29)

ROFLMAO! Trump is PRO LATE TERM ABORTION,AND PRO HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE.

He says he isn't.

He said he was about 15 years ago. When he said it he used words like he was kind of ashamed to admit it.

Shame on Ted Cruz for now showing that part in his add. Though I understand why. Because it makes the context a little, I said a little bit different.

Since he was ashamed to admit it before. Or alsomst ashamed to admit it. I will give him the benefit of the doubt on it.

People honestly to change their minds. Yes I have some doubt. But I have decided for the reasons given to give him a change to prove it.

On gay marriage. He may not be as aggressively against it as I would like. But i saw him say he was a traditional guy and he was against it. I've never seen anything different.

If he appoints conservatives to the court they will very likely be opposed to it. So in the future it could be changed back to normal.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-18   11:13:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: tomder55 (#23)

I called Trump a moonbat . Not his supporters .

I think the majority of his supporters are more in the line of "starry-eyed dreamers",ready to follow any piper that pipes the "no more immigrants" tune.

Since that is the most important issue facing America today,it's easy to see the attraction.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-18   11:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#25)

"Fire doesn't melt steel. Even if it was hit by a plane."

But fire can soften steel.

"Maybe there is a reason but that is an unanswered question."

Everything you have are "unanswered questions". You have no proof. Tell me what you believe happened and give me proof that supports your version exclusively.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-18   11:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: misterwhite (#24)

I'm tired of being offered GOPe candidates who are strong social conservatives (but accomplish nothing in that area) while ignoring conservative fiscal issues.

You ain't by yourself,either.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-18   11:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#25)

Fire doesn't melt steel.

How do you think steel is make and formed?

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-18   11:15:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: tomder55 (#23)

August 14, 1996: State Department Calls Bin Laden One of Most Significant Terrorism Sponsors in the World

The State Department issues a fact sheet on bin Laden, calling him “one of the most significant financial sponsors of Islamic extremist activities in the world today.” The text ties bin Laden to funding specific attacks, such as the attempt to kill dozens of US soldiers in Yemen in 1992 (see December 29, 1992). The fact sheet is also mentions the term “al-Qaeda,” leading to the first media reports using that term the next day (see August 14, 1996). The fact sheet also contains details about bin Laden’s finances, such as the allegation that he co-founded the Al-Shamal Islamic Bank in Sudan in 1990 with a group of wealthy Sudanese and capitalized it with $50 million of his fortune. [US Department of State, 8/14/1996; New York Times, 8/14/1996] Much of this information appears to come from al-Qaeda defector Jamal al-Fadl. The CIA had just finished debriefing him weeks before (see June 1996-April 1997).

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a081496biggestfinancier

Again your link has quotes from 2002. So it is not prior to 911.

You see why people have doubts. No one can ever dispel them.

I have a doubt because I had never heard the word aL qaeda prior to 911. Then they start throwing out the term like it has always been used.

So that makes me suspicious. That and the other things that done't make sense like kerosene melting steel etc, etc, etc............................

So I still don't know the truth. Still looking for it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-18   11:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#35)

Fire doesn't melt steel. How do you think steel is make and formed?

Ok you got me there.

But you know what I mean.

Fire burning at the temperature of jet fuel and furniture.

A fire that is smoking is not as hot as a clean burning fire.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-18   11:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#28)

That is what Trump will do imo.

He will dig up dirt on them just for fun.

I can see him telling us what he found out about them. How it is worse then he imagined. Then doing something about it and burying them politically forever.

There is no question in my mind that you really and truly believe that.

I don't. He's one of them,and has been one of them his entire life. His whole financial world is created around political connections,and there is no way in the world he is going to burn that bridge behind him.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-18   11:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: misterwhite (#33)

Everything you have are "unanswered questions". You have no proof. Tell me what you believe happened and give me proof that supports your version exclusively.

You have no proof either.

I don't know what happened. But there are to many oddities for me to really believe everything the government says about it.

Question for you White.

Do you think the government would be capable of lying about doing a deed like that. Do you think people in our government would be capable of lying about it.

I'm not asking you if they are capable of pulling it off. We can talk about that another time.

So just are they capable of lying about something like that on that scale?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-18   11:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#31)

Since he was ashamed to admit it before. Or alsomst ashamed to admit it. I will give him the benefit of the doubt on it.

People honestly to change their minds. Yes I have some doubt. But I have decided for the reasons given to give him a change to prove it.

Ok,time will tell.

I hope I am the one wrong on all this,but I doubt it. Leopards don't change their spots. Especially leopards whose whole financial outlook is dependent on personal connections to powerful leftists who are strongly PRO all those issues.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-18   11:22:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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