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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Science-Technology See other Science-Technology Articles Title: Archaeologists Discover Remains of Egyptian Army From the Biblical Exodus in Red Sea Source: Short Cut Mag URL Source: http://shortcutmag.com/archaeologis ... he-biblical-exodus-in-red-sea/ Published: Jan 26, 2016 Author: Unknown Post Date: 2016-02-12 19:08:21 by sneakypete Keywords: None Views: 2010 Comments: 20 Egypt’s Antiquities Ministry announced this morning that a team of underwater archaeologists had discovered that remains of a large Egyptian army from the 14th century BC, at the bottom of the Gulf of Suez, 1.5 kilometers offshore from the modern city of Ras Gharib. The team was searching for the remains of ancient ships and artifacts related to Stone Age and Bronze Age trade in the Red Sea area, when they stumbled upon a gigantic mass of human bones darkened by age. The scientists lead by Professor Abdel Muhammad Gader and associated with Cairo University’s Faculty of Archaeology, have already recovered a total of more than 400 different skeletons, as well as hundreds of weapons and pieces of armor, also the remains of two war chariots, scattered over an area of approximately 200 square meters. They estimate that more than 5000 other bodies could be dispersed over a wider area, suggesting that an army of large size who have perished on the site. This magnificient blade from an egyptian khopesh, ..... Continued at link with a video and photos Click for Full Text! Poster Comment: Well worth viewing. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: All, *Religious History and Issues*, *World history*, *Archeology and Digs* (#0) PING! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-12   19:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: sneakypete (#0) Thanks Pete, I find this stuff fascinating! Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood Stoner  posted on  2016-02-12   19:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Stoner (#2) I find this stuff fascinating! Me,too. I love anything having to do with history and artifacts. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-12   19:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: sneakypete (#0) I will wait for an archaeological society to confirm this. Indeed over the years chariot wheels were found but not the magnitude of bones discussed in the article. I think the site cited is not a good source for confirmed peer reviewed archaeology. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8) redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-12   21:02:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: sneakypete (#0) Now here it is personal eyewitness testimony of Moses verified. Why is it we don't believe the eyewitness accounts? Is it that some parts of the Bible are oral history written down and we think that it is all like that. But what happened in Egypt so long ago is an eyewitness description. If follows that we should believe the other eyewitness descriptions, the life of Jesus and other biblical persons paraclete  posted on  2016-02-12   21:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: ALL (#3) (Edited) Everyone who knows me will testify that I believe in the veracity of the Bible. I have known about Ron Wyatt's archaeological claims for many years, and I would caution everyone to question those claims with skepticism I will wait for other archaeological scholars to comment on this Egyptian claim. Google, "RON WYATT: ARE HIS CLAIMS BONAFIDE? " Make certain you read to the end of the article. "A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is... A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in.” ― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity GarySpFC  posted on  2016-02-12   21:14:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: All (#6) From the article I referenced: "Who is Ron Wyatt. Evidence generally stands or falls on its own merits. Rarely is there a need to delve into the nature and character of the one making a claim. A careful evaluation of the facts is usually sufficient. Unless of course, the one making the claim calls attention to himself in such a way that makes us openly skeptical. Would you the readers of ARARAT REPORT not question someone who not only claims to have found Noah's Ark, but also every archaeological site of interest to Christians? Ron Waytt has made such claims. We have him saying it on tape. Ron claims that on January 6, 1982 at 2:00 P.M. he found the Ark of the Covenant under the escarpment of Calvary. A credible source heard him say on a Nashville television program that he held in his hands the stone tablets of the ten commandments and that they were fastened with golden hinges! He claims he found the Ark of the Covenant under the exact spot where Jesus was crucified. He found the stone socket in which the cross of Christ was placed. When pierced by the sword, Ron believes the blood dripped down into the socket and dripped through a crack caused by the earthquake and landed on the mercy seat 60 feet down in a subterranean chamber! He has also found the mountain that is the biblical Mt. Sinai where God dispensed the law to His people. This mountain is located in Saudi Arabia (Jabal Al Lawz), and is strangely enough, one of the legendary places for the mountain. Dr. Frank Cross of Harvard thinks it is a good candidate, but admits that there is as of now no evidence to confirm it. Ron believes he has located the 12 altars build by Moses in Exodus 24. This strains credulity again since Moses built these in one day and the rocks were not to be handhewn. How could they possibly be recognizable today? Ron is undaunted. He also found the spot where the ground swallowed up Korah and his followers. Ron also knows exactly where the Israelites crossed the Red Sea and has even located chariot parts from Pharaoh's army. He claims he found a chariot wheel one and a half miles out in the Gulf of Aqaba and in two hundred feet of water! Professional skin divers say this would be quite a feat to dive that far down and impossible to photograph without sophisticated lighting equipment. Ron also claims that he found a stone monument near the site of the crossing erected by Solomon. He claims it is inscribed with the ancient Hebrew script. Ron claims that he has solved the problem of the construction of the pyramids, and the problems in Egyptian chronology. Indeed, he has even constructed a working model of the machine he believes the Egyptians used to build the pyramids. It is indeed an interesting looking device! Ron knows how the Shroud of Turin was forged; he has cracked the code of the Copper Scroll; in fact he has claimed to mutual acquaintances that he can read any ancient inscription. Is Ron Wyatt the greatest archaeologist that ever lived? Or is there a better conclusion? Who is Ron Wyatt? We found this a very difficult question to answer. Almost no one knew Ron Wyatt outside of his claim to have found Noah's Ark. Prior to 1984 his life is pretty much a mystery. He is a man in his middle fifties. He came from a large family and spent most of his days in the Kentucky-Tennessee area. He was raised in the Seventh Day Adventist Church and believes currently that the beliefs of this church are the purist representation of the Church found in the Bible. He gives much credit to Seventh Day Adventist Prophetess, Ellen G. White, for help in many of his discoveries. He names her book PATRIARCHS AND PROPHETS as being particular helpful in aiding him in finding the Red Sea crossing. For the benefit of our readers who are not acquainted with the Adventist church, Ellen G. White was one of the founders of that church and was to have experienced over 100 visions. As we mentioned earlier, Ron is a Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist, one of 23,000 in the U.S. Since 1984, however, he has had little time to practice his profession. Ron has literally spent thousands of dollars, some of it his own, to make his "discoveries". We know of one party who has donated around $30,000 to Ron's various expeditions. This gentlemen claims he was approached for more money, but the man refused unless Ron agreed to be tested by a polygraph. According to this man's testimony, the results were not positive for Ron's claims. Ron hired the public relations firm of Jeff Roberts and Associates in Hendersonville, TN to handle his bookings for speaking engagements. This firm has produced a slick brochure and packet of materials intended for press releases. We found some of the information disturbing because it was misleading. It lists Ron as graduating from the University of Michigan with honors in Pre-med and as having finished all the requirements for an M.A. and Ph.D. in antiquities. It also lists him as being a Korean war veteran. We found none of the above to be true. When we called the P.R. firm about these discrepancies, they admitted that the document needed to be re-written, but they did not know who was to blame for the inaccuracies. We did learn that Ron attended Western Michigan for a number of years as well as several other schools. So far as we know, he does not have any earned degree (which of course does not preclude him from making a discovery) and there is no record of him serving in the Korean War. Ron is a very friendly person. We would add that he is also a very colorful person. He is the type that could sell sand to an Arab Sheik. We do not doubt his intelligence. We are uncertain of his motivation. It doesn't appear to be money. It appears to us that he really believes he has found Noah's Ark, and that he is pretty committed to following it through. To us it seems incredible that Ron could have found and solved problems that have baffled professional archaeologists for more than a century. We think Ron missed his calling. He could be a "can't lose" writer for episodes of "Indiana Jones" movies. As a Christian I can't think of anything that would be more exciting than to learn of the discovery of Noah's Ark. And, if Ron turns out to be right, you'd better believe we'll be among the first apologize for doubting his claims." "A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is... A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in.” ― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity GarySpFC  posted on  2016-02-12   21:31:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: redleghunter (#4) Indeed over the years chariot wheels were found but not the magnitude of bones discussed in the article. I have to admit that finding that many bones under water that had been subject to waves and seismic forces over so many centuries came as a bit of a shock to me,but figured there are people far more qualified than I to question that bit,and they would be heard from if it were in face questionable. Still,it makes for interesting reading,as will any rebuttals. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-13   1:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: paraclete (#5) Now here it is personal eyewitness testimony of Moses verified. Why is it we don't believe the eyewitness accounts? Is it that some parts of the Bible are oral history written down and we think that it is all like that. But what happened in Egypt so long ago is an eyewitness description. If follows that we should believe the other eyewitness descriptions, the life of Jesus and other biblical persons Feel free to believe anything you want or need to believe,but be aware that one true event doesn't stand as proof of the veracity of any other event. Each event stands on it's own. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-13   1:06:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: GarySpFC (#7) Well,if nothing else,Ron has a rich and fulfilling fantasy life. Nothing really wrong with this IMHO as long as he believes it himself,but if he is promoting this stuff to fleece the sheep,he needs to go to jail like all the other con men. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-13   1:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: GarySpFC, redleghunter (#6) You two are so cynical these days.     : ) Good caveats for the casual reader though. Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-13   8:54:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: sneakypete (#8) I have to admit that finding that many bones under water that had been subject to waves and seismic forces over so many centuries came as a bit of a shock to me,but figured there are people far more qualified than I to question that bit,and they would be heard from if it were in face questionable. schol Still,it makes for interesting reading,as will any rebuttals. Pete, at this time there is NOTHING coming from the academic community to support this find except silence. Silence from scholars shouts doubt until the evidence points otherwise. "A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is... A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in.” ― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity GarySpFC  posted on  2016-02-13   10:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: GarySpFC (#12) Pete, at this time there is NOTHING coming from the academic community to support this find except silence. Which is louder than any shout. Biblical scholars would be as giddy as school girls if there was any real truth to the find. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-13   10:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: sneakypete (#0) Thanks Pete. Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous. BobCeleste  posted on  2016-02-13   13:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: Stoner (#2) I do too! :) goldilucky  posted on  2016-02-14   14:18:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: sneakypete (#0) This is truly awesome! goldilucky  posted on  2016-02-14   14:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: goldilucky (#16) This is truly awesome! Well,it would be even more awesomer if it were true. Still,it's good to get the old heart stirring with excitement occasionally,ain't it? As long as nobody sends him any money,no harm done. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-14   15:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: TooConservative (#11) I'm sick of the blog site self proclaimed "scholars." They put out their hunches and advertise as "experts" and when proven wrong or premature allow skeptics to quote them against actual scholarship. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8) redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-14   15:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: redleghunter (#18) They put out their hunches and advertise as "experts" and when proven wrong or premature allow skeptics to quote them against actual scholarship. Clickbaiters. Teh Interwebs are getting worse and worse. Even some formerly reputable sites are going in for it now. They even release the same story via different outlets, using different titles, then adjust the titling to match the origin of the click and make the title the one that drew the most clicks. Scammy. How can you trust them when they do that? What else will they do to get some clicks? Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-14   16:12:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: TooConservative (#19) Scammy. How can you trust them when they do that? What else will they do to get some clicks? You should see some of the click bait "stories" hosted by sports sites. Clearly geared to the straight male ages 14-whenever. :) For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8) redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-14   16:26:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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