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Title: Carrier to relocate Indianapolis manufacturing operations to Mexico, 1,400 jobs affected
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URL Source: http://www.wthr.com/story/31188372/ ... s-to-mexico-1400-jobs-affected
Published: Feb 12, 2016
Author: WTHR
Post Date: 2016-02-12 09:13:43 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 1956
Comments: 27

INDIANAPOLIS - Carrier has announced plans to relocate its Indianapolis operations to Mexico by 2019, affecting roughly 1,400 jobs.

Carrier manufactures furnaces at a facility on W. Morris St. in Indianapolis. The company plans to relocate over the next three years in three phases.

United Steelworkers 1999 employs about 1,300 members at the Morris Street Carrier plant. Chuck Jones, president of Local 1999, tells WTHR that employees were notified Wednesday morning about the jobs moving to Mexico.

"We did not see it coming. It was a total shock," said Jones.

He said the move ultimately means the loss of 1,300 union jobs that average $20 to $21 per hour.

Mayor Hogsett angered over Carrier move to Mexico

"We know the reason. They want to become more profitable by exploiting Mexican labor," said Jones.

"This facility is not losing money. If it was losing money, I think these things would be understood better. This company just wants to make more," said employee Robert James.

The phase-out is to begin in May of 2017 and will wrap up in 2019.

One Carrier employee with the company 31 years described the move as "a big blow."

While she preferred not to be identified, she said "there was a lot of sadness" and anxiety following the announcement.

"A lot of people don't know what they're going to do," she


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Screw Carrier. There should be a 200 percent tariff on anything that crosses the border from them assholes.

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#2. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

All this "Free" trade.

Yep, things will be cheaper at Wal-Mart.

But the cost of the unemployment, food stamps and Medicaid for 800 of those 1400 families hit by the layoffs will be more than the cost savings at Wal- Mart.

Trump is right about trade. So is Sanders. So was Perot.

America became the world's number one industrial power by 1890 BECAUSE OF a protective tarriff.

Of course the moneymen hate protectionism - it makes labor more expensive...but more expensive labor means a lot less welfare.

I'm from Detroit. I watched Detroit die due to "free" trade. It killed the Southern textile industries. It killed domestic TV and electronic manufacturers.

And open borders drove Americans out of construction (except for the moneymen, naturally).

And where do all of those people who USED to work hard and pay taxes go? Some get McJobs. Millions more go on unemployment, then welfare.

Meanwhile, Communist China builds a new aircraft carrier every year just from the INTEREST on the debt America owes them, because we borrowed all that money to buy their cheap shit at Wal-Mart.

Trump is dead right on trade, and if we don't get trade and immigration under control, you and I are not going to have a national home in which to fight with each other.

Remember the Klingon and Kirk in that old Star Trek episode: "Only a fool fights in a burning house. Cease hostilities."

We'll fight later, you and I. Right now, we need to keep our country ours. And that means Trump.

It's true, Trump is not a "conservative" as currently defined, on trade.

But if "conservative" means "looking at the past", the American government was FUNDED by the protective trade tarriff (and land sales) until 1900. Our industry was BUILT because we had a protective tarriff that shielded it so the low-cost British, later Germans, couldn't destroy it.

Control of borders means control of the flow of people and goods across them. It's why we have front doors on our houses. And Trump (and to his credit, Sanders) is the only one who says this obvious fact.

Hey, Cruz, Rubio, Jeb!, hate the idea of borders and controls on trade? Then tke the front door off your house, m'kay?

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-02-12   9:21:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Vicomte13 (#2)

"Our industry was BUILT because we had a protective tariff"

You manufacture a product which you can sell (with a good profit) for $10. Your competitor (who manufactures overseas) can sell it for $6 but our "protective tariff" drives up his import cost to $20.

How long will it take you to figure out that you can raise your price to, say, $18?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-12   9:45:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: misterwhite (#8)

Historically, when we had the tarriff, we built the stuff here because it was cheaper to built it and transport it here than to buy it from abroad and pay the tarriff.

Also, we don't have to have the same tarriff for everybody.

There's no reason we can't have free trade with, say, England and Holland. Their social welfare is more expensive than ours, and their environmental protections are higher.

We don't have to have a trade war with the world. Western Europe is comparable to the US. They're not putting us out of jobs, because the cost structures of civilization are similar. There's no reason we can't maintain free trade with Europe and Australia. Open, transparent systems where they insist on worker and environmental protections.

We can tailor it to mean that we don't have to compete with Chinese slaves.

And once we're working well again, if we want to favor a PARTICULAR country, to, say, reduce immigration pressure, we could decide that our Most Favored poorrer nation for those purposes is Mexico. We could allow near-shoring, some factories in Mexico, to keep people there.

Putting our factories in Communist China beggars us and empowers our enemy, for cheap consumer goods. It's stupid, except for the financiers, like Goldman Sachs, who funds Cruz's life.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-02-12   9:56:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Vicomte13 (#11)

Also, we don't have to have the same tarriff for everybody.

There's no reason we can't have free trade with, say, England and Holland. Their social welfare is more expensive than ours, and their environmental protections are higher.

We don't have to have a trade war with the world. Western Europe is comparable to the US. They're not putting us out of jobs, because the cost structures of civilization are similar. There's no reason we can't maintain free trade with Europe and Australia. Open, transparent systems where they insist on worker and environmental protections.

We can tailor it to mean that we don't have to compete with Chinese slaves.

And once we're working well again, if we want to favor a PARTICULAR country, to, say, reduce immigration pressure, we could decide that our Most Favored poorrer nation for those purposes is Mexico. We could allow near-shoring, some factories in Mexico, to keep people there.

What part of your free trade agreements do you not see here? only the tarriffs. but this is a web of your own making. You wanted low tarriffs so other nations would respond and allow you access to their markets, Nations like mine lowered our tarriffs and lost our industries, now your policy has come full circle and you are bleating. Tarriffs arn't the answer but local preference is. What this means is your government contracts mandate a particular level of local content and this can be extended into locally sold goods also through tax concessions.

Go ahead start a trade war, you will only hurt yourself

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