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Title: Ted Cruz: A Vote for Rubio Is a Vote for Amnesty, a Vote for Trump Is a Vote for Obamacare
Source: Breitbart
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... trump-is-a-vote-for-obamacare/
Published: Jan 31, 2016
Author: Michelle Fields
Post Date: 2016-01-31 08:36:19 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 1409
Comments: 7

Republican presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) is ramping up his attacks on rivals Donald Trump and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) (R-TX), telling voters in Iowa that “a vote for Marco Rubio is a vote for amnesty, and a vote for Donald Trump is a vote for Obamacare.”

Earlier Saturday, Cruz released a new ad titled “No More Deals,” which goes after Trump for being a crony who will strike deals with his Democratic friends if he’s elected president of the United States.

The ad insinuates that Trump would govern like former House Speaker John Boehner and Senator Minority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and give America legislation like Obamacare.

Cruz is also hitting Rubio while in Iowa, saying that Americans are “tired of being burned by politicians who claim to be against amnesty… Marco Rubio has gone on Univision and said in Spanish, ‘No, no, no, I wouldn’t rescind amnesty,’” Cruz said Saturday.

Despite his attacks on both Trump and Rubio, Cruz’s campaign continues to maintain that the race is between himself and Trump.

On Saturday, Cruz told reporters, “This race is a dead heat.” He added that “It is neck-and-neck.”

The latest Iowa poll, and the last poll before Monday’s Iowa caucus, has Trump with a five-point lead over Cruz. Donald Trump has 28 percent, followed by Cruz with 23 and Rubio with 15 percent. (1 image)

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#1. To: cranky (#0)

A vote for Trump is not a vote for Obamacare. Trump has said that he will get rid of Obamacare.

But the reason Trump will be elected and Cruz will not is that Trump goes on past that, and acknowledges the truth: EVERYBODY NEEDS HEALTH INSURANCE.

In modern America, health care is too expensive for anybody BUT a Trump to be able to pay for it himself. If YOU go to the doctor and decide you will pay cash, without insurance, you will pay three times as much for the same service. That's just a fact. The reason is that the doctors have been forced by the size of insurance companies to accept the "negotiated rate" with them, but they have no such agreement with you.

If you don't have health insurance and you get sick, you will pay three times what you pay with insurance. Most working people cannot afford that. And nobody but the VERY rich can afford to pay for cancer, diabetes or heart attack uninsured.

Republicans bellow on about the money, about cutting Medicaid and getting rid of Obamacare, but then they stop. They do not speak to the money problems of the growing ranks of working poor and middle class being pushed downward, who have families and who need health coverage, but who cannot afford it.

Obamacare was designed to cover them. and they do NEED to be covered.

The problem with Obamacare is that it dismantled the whole heath care system to cover those people. Trump says no. Medicare, Medicaid and Employer-provided coverage all works. Obamacare beggars them all. It's the wrong answer.

Trump's answer is to leave Medicare, Medicaid and Employer coverage alone, and have a fourth kind, subsidezed by the government, to cover the working poor. Trump has said that single payer for everybody would have been the ideal, but that we would have had to do that 50 years ago. Now we've got the system we've got, and it works for those with coverage. Obamacare tries to put everything into one system, but doesn't work.

So Trump says we return to Employer Insurance/Medicare/Medicaid, and add a government subsidized insurance just for those who fall between the cracks of those three. That's about 30 million people. Obamacare changes the health care for all 320 million to cover those 30 million. Trump would leave 290 million alone, and just deal with the 30 million.

That IS universal health coverage, through different programs,, but it is NOT Obamacare.

Cruz is intelligent enough to know the difference.

So, when he says that Trump will give you Obamacare, what he means is that ANY form of universal health coverage is "Obamacare". Vote for Cruz, and you are voting to be absolutely sure that 30 million do NOT get any sort of health insurance. That's HIS bottom line.

It's cynical, it's not Christian, and when he says Trump will give you Obamacare, it's a lie.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-01-31   9:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

"... and acknowledges the truth: EVERYBODY NEEDS HEALTH INSURANCE."

True, but what kind of insurance? Where do you draw the line when it comes to taxper-funded or taxpayer-subsidized health insurance?

Are we going to be forced to pay for brain surgery, heart transplants, liver transplants? If so, are we going to be able to control the lifestyles of those receiving this care (ie., no smoking, no drinking, no excess weight, no dangerous activities, etc.)?

Do I have to pay for a liver transplant of some alcoholic on skid row? Gender re-assignment surgery? Face lifts? Chiropractic? Voodoo?

Now, if you want to say, "Everyone needs basic health care", fine. What that covers and who pays for it is another matter.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-01-31   10:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

EVERYBODY NEEDS HEALTH INSURANCE.

Not me.

I was self-insured everyday of my civilian working life.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2016-01-31   11:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13, cranky (#1)

Today on 'This Week' Trump again said he wants to institute universal health care .When George Stephanopoulos asked him how he'd do it ,he showed how little he's really thought about the issue.

We’re going to work with our hospitals. We’re going to work with our doctors. We’ve got to do something. You can’t have a — a small percentage of our economy, because they’re down and out, have absolutely no protection so they end up dying from, you know, what you could have a simple procedure or even a pill. You can’t do that. We’ll work something out. That doesn’t mean single payer. And I mean, maybe he’s got no heart. And if this means I lose an election, that’s fine, because, frankly, we have to take care of the people in our country. We can’t let them die on the sidewalks of New York or the sidewalks of Iowa or anywhere else.

But Trump would confiscate a poor person's property if it's in the best interest of the wealthy real estate developer .

Hate to break the news to him. No one in this country is denied medical care because they are poor. The system is already in place to care for them. Since 1986 no hospital can legally deny emergency care, and no public hospital can deny any needed care based on ability to pay. Further Cruz has never indicated that he would change the existing arrangement for the poor.

Obamacare royally screwed those who were covered under the system before the emperor's reign ,and did not substantially change the number of people who do not have coverage .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2016-01-31   13:55:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: cranky (#0) (Edited)

Ted Cruz: A Vote for Rubio Is a Vote for Amnesty, a Vote for Trump Is a Vote for Obamacare

And a vote for Cruz is a vote for reconquista by Mexico under the supervision of his dingbat wife.

rlk  posted on  2016-01-31   14:48:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tomder55 (#4)

Trump would confiscate a poor person's property

Eminent domain isn't confiscation.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-01-31   14:59:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Vicomte13 (#6)

Eminent domain isn't confiscation

of course it is when the purpose of it is to build a casino parking lot .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2016-01-31   15:15:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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