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Title: Swiss to vote on guaranteed income for all
Source:
the local
URL Source: http://www.thelocal.ch/20160127/swi ... e-on-guaranteed-income-for-all
Published: Jan 29, 2016
Author: The Local
Post Date: 2016-01-29 09:23:30 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 1990
Comments: 18
Every Swiss adult resident would have the right to guaranteed basic monthly income of 2,500 francs a month, if a proposal to be submitted to voters this summer is accepted. The initiative, proposed by a group of intellectuals, was one of five subjects approved by the federal government on Wednesday for the ballot box on June 5th. Switzerland will become the first country in the world to vote on the introduction of unconditional income at the national level. But it has not won much support from traditional politicians, even those on the left. The initiative’s backers say it aims to break the link between employment and income, with people entitled to guaranteed income regardless of whether they work. Each child would receive 625 francs a month. The federal government estimates the cost of the proposal at 208 billion francs a year. Around 153 billion taxes would have to be levied from taxes, while 55 billion francs would be transferred from social insurance and social assistance spending. The action committee pushing the initiative consists of artists, writers and intellectuals, including publicist Daniel Straub, former federal government spokesman Oswald Sigg and Zurich rapper Franziska Schläpfer (known as “Big Zis”), the SDA news agency reported. Personalities supporting the bid include writers Adolf Muschg and Ruth Schweikert, philosopher Hans Saner and communications expert Beatrice Tschanz. The group said a new survey showed that the majority of Swiss residents would continue working if the guaranteed income proposal was approved. Only two percent would stop working, while eight percent said they could envisage this possibility depending on circumstances. “The argument of opponents that a guaranteed income would reduce the incentive of people to work is by this is largely contradicted,” the initiative’s committee said in a statement. However, a third of the 1,076 people interviewed for the survey by the Demoscope Institute believed that “others would stop working”. And more than half of those surveyed (56 percent) believe the guaranteed income proposal will never see the light of day. 
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#1. To: cranky (#0)
Good news for the rapefugees.
I can't imagine the Swiss allowing them any more than Vatican City would. There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't
As of 2011: "The Muslim population in Switzerland has more than quintupled since 1980, and now numbers about 400,000, or roughly 5% of the population."
How many are rapefugees? How many are holders of work permits? How many are EU National or National Assignees? The Swiss have had pretty strict quotas since at least 1999. It surprises me that they're letting the riffraff and dregs in now. There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't
That is equivalent to about $2,400, RETIRE IN SWITZERLAND...awesome.
Hmmmm. Where did that 55 billion francs originally come from? From taxes on workers. Meaning, that entire 208 billion francs come from people who work. "The group said a new survey showed that the majority of Swiss residents would continue working if the guaranteed income proposal was approved." They'd better. They're paying for it.
They'd better. They're paying for it. " That won't last long. They will soon conclude that they should just get on the dole. - Why work? Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood
Sure. A family of four would receive 6250 francs per month (approx. $75,000 per year) tax free.
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per month. Plus about $600 dollars more a month for each child. Sure beats living in caves and mud huts.
Once again we have this ludicrous proposal doing the rounds in Europe, this is the third country to propose such a measure but this time the amount to be paid is far higher. I get that this simplifies the welfare system, but I don't see the point to giving money to people who don't need it. Eventually this system will force wages down and reduce incentive. It is easy to see why artists would want such a system but this is communism in disguise
Around 153 billion taxes would have to be levied from taxes, Meh. Levying taxes is sooo last millennial. They need to get themselves one of them Bernyankee printing presses.
Per month per adult. Tax free. If this passes, let's move. Dibs on the one on the right.
You have good taste ! Are you packed & ready to move there? Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood
She has huge ... tracts of land.
LOL! Since you are moving there, I would ask if you speak the language. But I would imagine you will be too busy to be involved in much "conversation", LOL!! Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood
They would for a while. Economic degeneracy occurs incrementally under socialism as more people find it more enjoyable to get on the dole than to exercise effort, foresight, and responsibility.
"The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
#2. To: Roscoe (#1)
Good news for the rapefugees.
#3. To: cranky (#2)
#4. To: Roscoe (#3)
As of 2011: "The Muslim population in Switzerland has more than quintupled since 1980, and now numbers about 400,000, or roughly 5% of the population."
#5. To: Roscoe (#1)
#6. To: cranky (#0)
"Around 153 billion taxes would have to be levied from taxes, while 55 billion francs would be transferred from social insurance and social assistance spending."
#7. To: misterwhite (#6)
" "The group said a new survey showed that the majority of Swiss residents would continue working if the guaranteed income proposal was approved."
#8. To: Stoner (#7)
"They will soon conclude that they should just get on the dole. - Why work?"
#9. To: cranky (#4)
#10. To: jeremiad (#5)
That is equivalent to about $2,400
#11. To: cranky (#0)
#12. To: Roscoe (#1)
The federal government estimates the cost of the proposal at 208 billion francs a year.
#13. To: Roscoe (#10)
#14. To: misterwhite (#13)
(Edited)
" Dibs on the one on the right. "
#15. To: Stoner (#14)
"You have good taste !"
#16. To: misterwhite (#15)
" She has huge ... tracts of land. "
#17. To: cranky (#0)
The group said a new survey showed that the majority of Swiss residents would continue working if the guaranteed income proposal was approved.
#18. To: rlk (#17)
"Economic degeneracy occurs incrementally under socialism as more people find it more enjoyable to get on the dole than to exercise effort, foresight, and responsibility."
-- Margaret Thatcher
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