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The Greatness of Charlie Kirk: An Eyewitness Account of His Life and Martyrdom Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: Pro-life Women Sound the Alarm: Donald Trump is Unacceptable Source: SBA List URL Source: https://www.sba-list.org/home/pro-l ... rmdonald-trump-is-unacceptable Published: Jan 26, 2016 Author: SBA List Post Date: 2016-01-26 22:40:15 by redleghunter Ping List: *Pro-Life*     Subscribe to *Pro-Life* Keywords: None Views: 2095 Comments: 20 Pro-life Women Sound the Alarm: Donald Trump is Unacceptable January 26, 2016 Iowa & National Pro-life Leaders Urge Iowans to Support Anyone but Trump January 26, 2016 – Pro-life women leaders from Iowa as well as the heads of national pro-life organizations are speaking out and urging Republican caucus-goers and voters to support anyone but Donald Trump. The following letter will be sent out to pro-life Iowans today. Dear Iowans, As pro-life women leaders from Iowa and across the nation, we urge Republican caucus-goers and voters to support anyone but Donald Trump. On the issue of defending unborn children and protecting women from the violence of abortion, Mr. Trump cannot be trusted and there is, thankfully, an abundance of alternative candidates with proven records of pro-life leadership whom pro-life voters can support. We have come to this conclusion after having listened patiently to numerous debates and news reports, but most importantly to Donald Trump’s own words. The next president will be responsible for as many as four nominations to the Supreme Court. Mr. Trump has given us only one indication about the type of judges he would appoint, and it does not bode well for those who would like to see the court overturn Roe v. Wade. Mr. Trump has said his sister, Judge Maryanne Trump Barry, who struck down the Partial Birth Abortion Ban in New Jersey, would be a “phenomenal” choice for the court. Earlier this month, Mr. Trump also said he thought pro- choice Senator Scott Brown would make a “very good” Vice President. If one truly believes, as we do, that abortion is the taking of an innocent human life and is committed to the pro-life priorities of ending abortion after five months, and defunding the nation’s largest abortion business, Planned Parenthood, it would be a disaster to have a vice president who disagrees. More: https://www.sba-list.org/home/pro-life-women-sound-the- alarmdonald-trump-is-unacceptable Click for Full Text! Poster Comment: Guess he did not sign the pledge. Subscribe to *Pro-Life* Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: All (#0) Full disclosure. Trump claims he is pro-Life: I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories Q: Evangelicals want to feel secure that they're going to have a nominee that's solid on those social issues. A: One thing about me, I'm a very honorable guy. I'm pro-life, but I changed my view a number of years ago. One of the primary reasons I changed [was] a friend of mine's wife was pregnant, and he didn't really want the baby. He was crying as he was telling me the story. He ends up having the baby and the baby is the apple of his eye. It's the greatest thing that's ever happened to him. And you know here's a baby that wasn't going to be let into life. And I heard this, and some other stories, and I am pro-life. Q: So those stories did change you, they came around and changed you? A: They changed me. Yeah, they changed my view as to that, absolutely. Source: David Brody interview on CBN.com , Apr 8, 2011 For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8) redleghunter  posted on  2016-01-26   22:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: redleghunter (#0) Pro-life Women Sound the Alarm: Donald Trump is Unacceptable Because we all know that if we can just get a pro-life president, just once, then all pro-choice laws will be rolled back permanently? Pinguinite  posted on  2016-01-26   23:05:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Pinguinite, Vicomte13 (#2) Because we all know that if we can just get a pro-life president, just once, then all pro-choice laws will be rolled back permanently? It has a lot to do with SCOTUS nominees and how the candidates would appoint justices. Everyone but Trump has been clear on appointing conservative justices. Cruz yesterday sounded like Vic in stating how Republicans have been horrible appointing in the past. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8) redleghunter  posted on  2016-01-26   23:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: redleghunter (#3) I'm aware of that, but the success record on this type of strategy has been dismal over the past 40 years. Pinguinite  posted on  2016-01-26   23:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: redleghunter (#0) Trump's slap on the back association with Brown and his back yard BBQs was a mistake. rlk  posted on  2016-01-27   0:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Pinguinite (#2) Because we all know that if we can just get a pro-life president, just once, then all pro-choice laws will be rolled back permanently? The insiders are so transparent. Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-27   2:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: redleghunter (#3) Everyone but Trump has been clear on appointing conservative justices. So why aren't there any? Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-27   2:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: redleghunter (#0) I recall how high in the polls Giuliani was in 2008 until the pro-lifers and the pro-gun folk in the early states got serious about stopping him. Then it all evaporated for Rudy. A: One thing about me, I'm a very honorable guy. I'm pro-life, but I changed my view a number of years ago. One of the primary reasons I changed [was] a friend of mine's wife was pregnant, and he didn't really want the baby. He was crying as he was telling me the story. He ends up having the baby and the baby is the apple of his eye. It's the greatest thing that's ever happened to him. And you know here's a baby that wasn't going to be let into life. And I heard this, and some other stories, and I am pro-life. No one believes this whopper. Does anyone actually think that some guy is running off to a ginormous gasbag and gossip like Donald Trump to say something like, "Gee, don't tell anyone but I want my wife to get an abortion". And then, a little later, "BTW, that whole abortion thing I was telling you about? Nah.". If this guy exists, I want to hear this story from him. Otherwise, I think Donald is just making up a story for rubes. Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-27   4:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: TooConservative (#8) No one believes this whopper. I do. But let's suppose for a moment that Trump really is not very committed to pro-life. That will make him the same as both Bushes, McCain, Dole, Nixon and Reagan. 'Twas Reagan who signed the abortion bill in California, after all, and Reagan who appointed O'Connor and Kennedy to the Supreme Court. Let's suppose that there is no genuinely pro-life candidate who can win a national election for President, because the majority of Americans are pro-abortion. Then there are the rest of the policies. Trump is right about trade. Trump is right about immigration. Trump is right about Islam. Trump is right about military adventure. And these issues, along with abortion, are the burning issues of the day, every day going back for years. All of the rest of the Republicans are wrong on trade and Islam and military adventure. A couple of them seem to get it on immigration. All of the Democrats are wrong on Islam and immigration, and Clinton is wrong on trade and military adventure as well. I've listened to Trump on abortion, and I believe him. I think he will appoint pro-life justices to the Supreme Court. I think he gets it. I knew Romney was lying through his teeth, but Romney was also wrong on trade, wrong on immigration, wrong on military adventure and wrong on Islam, so there was nothing there to vote FOR. Donald is the first populist to have a major following since Perot. And Trump has been talking about pro-life issues for several years before running for President. Perot was not pro-life. I'm willing to take a chance on Trump's sincerity, because I've seen it in him on everything else so far, and what he says about it rings true. AND I agree with the rest of his policies, and doubt that a man who gets everything so right would suddenly become dishonest on THIS subject, which he also gets right in what he says. Each pro-lifer has to make his or her own assessment. I have assessed Donald Trump, looking back at his change of heart, and when, and why, and looking at the fact that he wasn't running for President then. I believe him. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-01-27   6:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: Vicomte13 (#9) Trump flipflops constantly. I don't now how you can possibly have any confidence he won't flipflop again. Or maybe you just don't care as much about abortion as you have alleged over the years. I am quite amazed that, of all the Republican candidates you could choose, you finally fall in love with Donald Trump. Admittedly, it's a cute romance but I think you'll end up a jilted lover with Trump. Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-27   8:15:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: TooConservative (#10) I am from Detroit. And I've been in America's stupid foreign wars. Trump opposed Iraq from the start, and he was right. He opposes the stupid foreign wars. No foreign wars unless we get something out of it. There is no other candidate of either party saying that. Trump is the only rational adult in the room on that score, and he's BEEN the rational adult in the room on this since the beginning of the "War" on Terror. Detroit, and industrial America, was destroyed by unfair "free" trade. Trump directly opposes it, and has for awhile. Perot had the same position. The working class have been destroyed by Mexican immigration. And Trump is the only candidate of either party who isn't being beaten by the margin-of-error who addresses these issues. So, there's abortion, and Trump's pro-life stance sounds like mine. He is not somebody who was always pro-life, and neither am I. He was persuaded by something, he can tell you what it was, and it makes sense. He wasn't a presidential candidate trying to lie his way into office when he changed his mind, like Romney and Bush were when they lied about having changed theirs. The abortion issue is not a worry for me with Trump. I'm sure he's pro- life. That, then, moves things to the most important practical issues: the economic needs of the middle and working class, and national security. Trump is the only one on the right track. Republicans are always the party of crony capitalism, but that's not where Trump is. The rest of them all are, and always have been all the way back to and including Reagan. Trump is better than Reagan on the economy and on immigration. So, what's there for me NOT to love about Trump. See, the difference between you and me is that you actually believe in Republican economics. I have opposed them my entire life. I have always rejected "trickle down" economics and "free" trade and open borders, and I have always been right about it. In my youth, I was wrong about abortion, and I was wrong about the Empire. I was with the Republicans and supported it. Encountering God face to face changed my mind about abortion - it certainly wasn't the arguments of America's self-proclaimed "Christians". Watching the Republicans destroy the military and fail spectacularly in wars all over the Middle East changed my mind about the Empire. Now enter Trump, and I hear the voice of common sense things that I've said about the economy for three decades FINALLY coming from the mouth of a political leader with a good shot at winning. You should not be surprised that Trump is my guy, if you were really listening to me all along. Who is your guy in the Republican field? Let me guess: Cruz. Cruz is like Reagan on economics: a fool. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-01-27   8:44:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: TooConservative (#10) Trump flipflops constantly. I haven't heard any flip flops. I've heard people like you screaming that he flip-flops. What I've seen is Trump saying logical stuff, that I agree with, elites and Democrats going batshit crazy with some extremist version of it, and Trump correcting them. I have seen no flip-flops Vicomte13  posted on  2016-01-27   8:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: TooConservative (#10) I am quite amazed that, of all the Republican candidates you could choose, you finally fall in love with Donald Trump. Admittedly, it's a cute romance but I think you'll end up a jilted lover with Trump. Well Trump is more liberal than most of the candidates of either party . That may be a hint. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? tomder55  posted on  2016-01-27   8:58:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: rlk (#5) Trump's slap on the back association with Brown and his back yard BBQs was a mistake. Yes, as a campaign strategy for NH it came too early. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8) redleghunter  posted on  2016-01-27   9:18:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: TooConservative (#8) If this guy exists, I want to hear this story from him. Otherwise, I think Donald is just making up a story for rubes. I guess Trump read "Tall Tales of my fahrther" by ghost writer for Obolo. He figures fabricating stories is fair game now. :) For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8) redleghunter  posted on  2016-01-27   9:21:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#10) Trump flipflops constantly. Yes, I believe he is one 'tear driven' story away from saying: "I am against abortion but when a woman decides for one, that she has a safe abortion. One lady who worked for me came in tears saying she 'had' to have an abortion because of a stressful abusive relationship...for this we must make abortion safe but rare." The above is the mantra of NARAL and is exactly what Bubba used in his campaign. I'm not buying his story more depth is needed. For a general election his convictions will undergo a colonoscopy by NARL, PP, NOW and all the various Pro- Life groups. He cannot escape with this one or two paragraph subjective encounter. What is his depth on the subject? We don't know. That is why the SBA List doesn't buy it. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8) redleghunter  posted on  2016-01-27   9:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: tomder55 (#13) Well Trump is more liberal than most of the candidates of either party . Define "liberal". Opposing open borders is liberal? Both parties support open borders. The Republicans are more liberal than Trump on that. Opposing unfair trade agreements is liberal? Both parties support unregulated trade. The Republicans are more liberal than Trump on that. Opposing ungoverned Muslim immigration is liberal? Both parties oppose any restriction. The Republicans care less about national security than Trump does. Opposing unplanned wars that end in disaster is liberal? No, it's intelligent. The Republicans plunged us headlong into war without planning, and the Democrats have been unable to extricate us. Trump opposed it all along, asking "What do WE get out of it?" How is Trump "liberal"? Because he cares more about the middle class and working class, and recognizes that health insurance is necessary? That's not liberal, it's true. Eh, whatever. The Republican Establishment, including you, Tomder, will throw out your shibboleths "liberal", and we're supposed to care. Republicans use that word like a weapon. Problem is, Republicans may not be liberal. Other words come to mind: Incompetent. Unfit. Unintelligent. Foolish. Cowardly. They lose wars and blow up economies, and put people out of work and leave borders open. Republican leaders are stupid jackasses. And they are going to lose control of that party to Trump. Then, maybe, the Republican brand can start repairing itself. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-01-27   10:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: Vicomte13 (#9) (Edited) That will make him the same as both Bushes, McCain, Dole, Nixon and Reagan. Not Reagan. When asked about the problem of out of wedlock births and abortions, Reagan replied with another question that echoed to the farthest reaches if the universe, "Whatever happened to the word NO?" That expresses the ultimate answer to the problem. (And the cause of the problem) If there is to be wide acceptance of impulsive catch as catch can love 'em and leave 'em sex, then there must be abortions and out of wedlock births to deal with the consequences. rlk  posted on  2016-01-27   11:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: redleghunter (#0) He is acceptable to me, he is endorsed by Jerry Falwell Jr, those who want to work want Trump those who want to live off those who work want any of the others, including Cruz. Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous. BobCeleste  posted on  2016-01-27   16:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: redleghunter (#1) We also need a pro-Life Justice sitting on SCOUS. "A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is... A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in.” ― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity GarySpFC  posted on  2016-01-28   23:32:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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