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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In International News See other International News Articles Title: Liberating a key Iraqi city from ISIS was 'a victory in the worst possible sense' Source: [None] URL Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/ramadi-isis-iraq-ali-khedery-2016-1 Published: Jan 12, 2016 Author: Pamala Engel/Ali Khedery Post Date: 2016-01-12 12:12:33 by interpreter Keywords: None Views: 2403 Comments: 31 "Ramadi I think was a victory in the worst possible sense in that … there really wasn’t much left of Ramadi by the time it had been deemed 'liberated,'" Ali Khedery told Business Insider. "This seems like the 100th battle for Ramadi since 2003." POSTER COMMENT Ramadi is the first of 3 prophesied cities to be laid waste in the Battle of Ar Mageddon. (See Revelation 18). Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 30. #7. To: interpreter (#0) Armageddon is the final battle on the plain and hills of Megiddo. Several major battles have already been fought on these hills/mounds that are the remains of ancient forts that guarded ancient trade routes. Battle of Megiddo refers to one of the major battles fought near the ancient site of Megiddo in the Jezreel Valley of north of Israel: Battle of Megiddo (15th century BC), a battle between Ancient Egyptians led by Pharaoh Thutmose III and a large Canaanite coalition Battle of Megiddo (609 BC), a battle between Egypt and Judea Battle of Megiddo (1918), a battle between British Empire forces and the Ottoman Empire Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-12   17:43:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: TooConservative (#7) (Edited) Armageddon is the final battle on the plain and hills of Megiddo. Nonsense. There is nothing worth fighting over in Megiddo, or its surrounding plains and/or mountains. Mageddon means sanctuary, and it refers to both the first sanctuary, the Garden of Eden (now Iraq), and to Jerusalem, home to three sanctuaries held dear by the descendants of Abraham. Ar means city and could refer to either Baghdad or Jerusalem. I suspect they will both have to be split three ways. Then there will be peace for a thousand years. interpreter  posted on  2016-01-12   18:57:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: interpreter (#10) There is nothing worth fighting over in Megiddo You think there is anything worth fighting for in Syria and yet the world is fighting there, Megiddo is just over the hill and is an ideal place for a battle but more importantly it is a crossroads between Africa, Asia and Europe. Armageddon is a battle between races and we have all the ingredients for it paraclete  posted on  2016-01-13   5:13:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: paraclete, interpreter (#14) You think there is anything worth fighting for in Syria and yet the world is fighting there, Megiddo is just over the hill and is an ideal place for a battle but more importantly it is a crossroads between Africa, Asia and Europe. Yeah, I also didn't grasp why Megiddo as a site for a final battle was somehow insufficient. Geography alone makes it a credible enough choice in a number of scenarios involving a final battle for control of Israel as a holy land and Jewish homeland. Certainly, Armageddon was an established Greek term (Harmagedon) during the era of Jesus and His disciples. It refers to the cities/forts built on a certain hill, composed of 26 different layers of settlements rebuilt through the ages after conquests. The word "Armageddon" appears only once in the Greek New Testament, in Revelation 16:16. The word is translated to Greek from Hebrew har mYgiddô (הר מגידו), har - Strong H2022 - meaning "a mountain or range of hills (sometimes used figuratively): - hill (country), mount (-ain), X promotion." This is a shortened form of Harar - Strong H2042 - "to loom up; a mountain; -hill, mount". Megiddo - Strong מְגִדּוֹן H4023 /meg-id-do'/ "Megiddon or Megiddo, a place of crowds.")[4] "Mount" Tel Megiddo is not actually a mountain, but a tell (a hill created by many generations of people living and rebuilding on the same spot)[5] on which ancient forts were built to guard the Via Maris, an ancient trade route linking Egypt with the northern empires of Syria, Anatolia and Mesopotamia. Megiddo was the location of various ancient battles, including one in the 15th century BC and one in 609 BC. Modern Megiddo is a town approximately 25 miles (40 km) west-southwest of the southern tip of the Sea of Galilee in the Kishon River area.[6] So, throughout the ancient era, this was a well-known city/fort in the area vital to protecting a major trade route. It also laid along the path of conquest for any empire wanting to conquer Egypt (or get close enough to try). Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-13   9:19:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: TooConservative (#15) (Edited) So, throughout the ancient era, this was a well-known city/fort in the area vital to protecting a major trade route. No one cares what it was in ancient history. Megiddo is nothing today but ruins. I am a Jew and I know exactly what Ar Mageddon means. It means City of the Sanctuary. The Battle of Ar Mageddon begins when the Euphrates is dried up. It was dried up by Saddam Hussein to prepare the way for the kings of the east in the Battle of Ar Mageddon, as prophesied, and it was dry on 9/11. interpreter  posted on  2016-01-13   20:08:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: interpreter (#16) No one cares what it was in ancient history. Megiddo is nothing today but ruins. I am a Jew and I know exactly what Ar Mageddon means. It means City of the Sanctuary. Once you turn everything into a prophecy allegory, you can make any kind of assertion about it. The word is found once in Christian scripture and it has no disavowal that anything other than the tell of Megiddo is meant by the word. Any ancient Jew or Christian would read that one word and understand it to mean the ancient city/fort and the surrounding area. Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-13   20:30:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: TooConservative (#18) The word is found once in Christian scripture More like 12 times. A K A Stone  posted on  2016-01-13   20:39:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: A K A Stone (#19) More like 12 times. Correct. Variations of Mageddo are found 12 times in the Bible. And the meaning is always "Sanctuary." And the meaning of Ar is always city. So there can be no doubt that a world war fought over the City of the Sanctuary signifies either Jerusalem or Baghdad (where the Euphrates recently dried up) or both. interpreter  posted on  2016-01-14   10:51:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: interpreter (#25) More like 12 times. Correct. Variations of Mageddo are found 12 times in the Bible. And the meaning is always "Sanctuary." And the meaning of Ar is always city. So there can be no doubt that a world war fought over the City of the Sanctuary signifies either Jerusalem or Baghdad (where the Euphrates recently dried up) or both. He was talking about Armageddon only being mentioned once. Misunderstanding. A K A Stone  posted on  2016-01-14   10:53:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: A K A Stone, interpreter (#26) I rather liked this article on the conquests and rebuilding of Megiddo over the many centuries. BibleArchaeology.info: Megiddo: what happened there Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-14   11:38:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: TooConservative (#27) I rather liked this article on the conquests and rebuilding of Megiddo over the many centuries. BibleArchaeology.info: Megiddo: what happened there Bullhockey. That article is so full of it. Nothing of any real historical significance has ever happened at Megiddo, except an ancient unknown pagan cult erected a sanctuary there (thus the name), and it was destroyed when the Jews conquered the Holy Land. So its ancient ruins are pretty much unimportant, to anyone that is, except crazed eschatologists, and definitely not worth fighting a great world-wide war over. interpreter  posted on  2016-01-14   17:05:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: interpreter (#28) So its ancient ruins are pretty much unimportant, to anyone that is, except crazed eschatologists, and definitely not worth fighting a great world-wide war over. Who knows what it might be in 50 or 100 or a 1000 years? But then, I've discovered that the Left Behinders don't give two flying shits over Armageddon and all the rest unless it means they themselves do not have to die (by getting Raptured instead). The actual language of the passage indicates that the "kings" will be drawn there. Perhaps it will merely be the command post or a conference location they use while their armies are operating across the region around Israel. Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-14   17:22:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: TooConservative (#29) Who knows what it might be in 50 or 100 or a 1000 years? But then, I've discovered that the Left Behinders don't give two flying shits over Armageddon and all the rest unless it means they themselves do not have to die (by getting Raptured instead). The actual language of the passage indicates that the "kings" will be drawn there. Perhaps it will merely be the command post or a conference location they use while their armies are operating across the region around Israel. The kings who start Ar Mageddon are the three "kings" pointed to by the Jerusalem-Euphrates vector. That is, a straight line drawn from Jerusalem to the epicenter of where the Euphrates dried up, and then extended eastward, very accurately points to, and bisects, the capitals of the three "demon-possessed" kings of the east who have started the Battle of Ar Mageddon. The first two, in Baghdad and Kabul, have already been dethroned and killed. And the leader(s) in Raqqa is next in line. And I am definitely not a "left-behinder." The "rapture" is a heresy taught by Paul the heretic. The history books say the coming of Jesus with a kingdom was in 312 AD when the sign of Christ appeared in the clouds, and Jesus appeared to St. Constantine and said "By this conquer." That day is called the turning point of history because ever since that day Christian nations have been the dominant force on earth. Instead of a rapture, Constantine sent his messengers with a trumpet and gathered the elect of all the Church together, to Nicea. All the attendees said they felt like they were in heaven. interpreter  posted on  2016-01-14   19:11:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 30.         There are no replies to Comment # 30. End Trace Mode for Comment # 30. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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