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Status: Not Logged In; Sign In International News See other International News Articles Title: Liberating a key Iraqi city from ISIS was 'a victory in the worst possible sense' Source: [None] URL Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/ramadi-isis-iraq-ali-khedery-2016-1 Published: Jan 12, 2016 Author: Pamala Engel/Ali Khedery Post Date: 2016-01-12 12:12:33 by interpreter Keywords: None Views: 3027 Comments: 31 "Ramadi I think was a victory in the worst possible sense in that … there really wasn’t much left of Ramadi by the time it had been deemed 'liberated,'" Ali Khedery told Business Insider. "This seems like the 100th battle for Ramadi since 2003." POSTER COMMENT Ramadi is the first of 3 prophesied cities to be laid waste in the Battle of Ar Mageddon. (See Revelation 18). Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 23. #7. To: interpreter (#0) Armageddon is the final battle on the plain and hills of Megiddo. Several major battles have already been fought on these hills/mounds that are the remains of ancient forts that guarded ancient trade routes. Battle of Megiddo refers to one of the major battles fought near the ancient site of Megiddo in the Jezreel Valley of north of Israel: Battle of Megiddo (15th century BC), a battle between Ancient Egyptians led by Pharaoh Thutmose III and a large Canaanite coalition Battle of Megiddo (609 BC), a battle between Egypt and Judea Battle of Megiddo (1918), a battle between British Empire forces and the Ottoman Empire Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-12   17:43:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: TooConservative (#7) (Edited) Armageddon is the final battle on the plain and hills of Megiddo. Nonsense. There is nothing worth fighting over in Megiddo, or its surrounding plains and/or mountains. Mageddon means sanctuary, and it refers to both the first sanctuary, the Garden of Eden (now Iraq), and to Jerusalem, home to three sanctuaries held dear by the descendants of Abraham. Ar means city and could refer to either Baghdad or Jerusalem. I suspect they will both have to be split three ways. Then there will be peace for a thousand years. interpreter  posted on  2016-01-12   18:57:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: interpreter (#10) There is nothing worth fighting over in Megiddo You think there is anything worth fighting for in Syria and yet the world is fighting there, Megiddo is just over the hill and is an ideal place for a battle but more importantly it is a crossroads between Africa, Asia and Europe. Armageddon is a battle between races and we have all the ingredients for it paraclete  posted on  2016-01-13   5:13:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: paraclete, interpreter (#14) You think there is anything worth fighting for in Syria and yet the world is fighting there, Megiddo is just over the hill and is an ideal place for a battle but more importantly it is a crossroads between Africa, Asia and Europe. Yeah, I also didn't grasp why Megiddo as a site for a final battle was somehow insufficient. Geography alone makes it a credible enough choice in a number of scenarios involving a final battle for control of Israel as a holy land and Jewish homeland. Certainly, Armageddon was an established Greek term (Harmagedon) during the era of Jesus and His disciples. It refers to the cities/forts built on a certain hill, composed of 26 different layers of settlements rebuilt through the ages after conquests. The word "Armageddon" appears only once in the Greek New Testament, in Revelation 16:16. The word is translated to Greek from Hebrew har mYgiddô (הר מגידו), har - Strong H2022 - meaning "a mountain or range of hills (sometimes used figuratively): - hill (country), mount (-ain), X promotion." This is a shortened form of Harar - Strong H2042 - "to loom up; a mountain; -hill, mount". Megiddo - Strong מְגִדּוֹן H4023 /meg-id-do'/ "Megiddon or Megiddo, a place of crowds.")[4] "Mount" Tel Megiddo is not actually a mountain, but a tell (a hill created by many generations of people living and rebuilding on the same spot)[5] on which ancient forts were built to guard the Via Maris, an ancient trade route linking Egypt with the northern empires of Syria, Anatolia and Mesopotamia. Megiddo was the location of various ancient battles, including one in the 15th century BC and one in 609 BC. Modern Megiddo is a town approximately 25 miles (40 km) west-southwest of the southern tip of the Sea of Galilee in the Kishon River area.[6] So, throughout the ancient era, this was a well-known city/fort in the area vital to protecting a major trade route. It also laid along the path of conquest for any empire wanting to conquer Egypt (or get close enough to try). Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-13   9:19:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: TooConservative (#15) (Edited) So, throughout the ancient era, this was a well-known city/fort in the area vital to protecting a major trade route. No one cares what it was in ancient history. Megiddo is nothing today but ruins. I am a Jew and I know exactly what Ar Mageddon means. It means City of the Sanctuary. The Battle of Ar Mageddon begins when the Euphrates is dried up. It was dried up by Saddam Hussein to prepare the way for the kings of the east in the Battle of Ar Mageddon, as prophesied, and it was dry on 9/11. interpreter  posted on  2016-01-13   20:08:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: interpreter (#16) No one cares what it was in ancient history. Megiddo is nothing today but ruins. I am a Jew and I know exactly what Ar Mageddon means. It means City of the Sanctuary. Once you turn everything into a prophecy allegory, you can make any kind of assertion about it. The word is found once in Christian scripture and it has no disavowal that anything other than the tell of Megiddo is meant by the word. Any ancient Jew or Christian would read that one word and understand it to mean the ancient city/fort and the surrounding area. Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-13   20:30:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: TooConservative (#18) (Edited) Once you turn everything into a prophecy allegory, you can make any kind of assertion about it. The word is found once in Christian scripture and it has no disavowal that anything other than the tell of Megiddo is meant by the word. Any ancient Jew or Christian would read that one word and understand it to mean the ancient city/fort and the surrounding area. You are as wrong as can be. Megiddo and its variant, Mageddon mean sanctuary as any Jew knows. The ancient city of Megiddo acquired that name because it was the site a sanctuary dedicated to a foreign God (and the Jews consequently destroyed it). The modern word, ghetto, originally meaning a sanctuary for Jews, is a shortened form of the word Megiddo. It is found many times in the OT and always means Sanctuary. interpreter  posted on  2016-01-14   10:10:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 23.         There are no replies to Comment # 23. 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