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Title: Christianity vs. Jesusanity — The Postmodern Temptation
Source: albertmohler.com
URL Source: http://www.albertmohler.com/2008/01 ... ity-the-postmodern-temptation/
Published: Jan 18, 2008
Author: Albert Mohler
Post Date: 2016-01-06 16:06:46 by redleghunter
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The most hard-core forms of postmodern thought are generally limited to academic campuses, but the postmodern worldview is trickling down in various forms to the popular…

The most hard-core forms of postmodern thought are generally limited to academic campuses, but the postmodern worldview is trickling down in various forms to the popular level. While postmodern literary theorists debate the meaning of “totalizing metanarratives,” at the level of popular piety we see the widespread substitution of “spirituality” for biblical Christianity.

In this sense, spirituality is a project centered in the self and constantly negotiable — more about “meaning” than truth. Where does Jesus Christ fit in all this? Darrell L. Bock and Daniel B. Wallace argue that popular culture is on a quest “to unseat the biblical Christ.” They make their case in Dethroning Jesus [Thomas Nelson]..

As Bock and Wallace explain, classical biblical Christianity is being replaced by “Jesusanity.” In their words:

“Jesusanity” is a coined term for the alternative story about Jesus. Here the center of the story is still Jesus, but Jesus as either a prophet or a teacher of religious wisdom. In Jesusanity, Jesus remains very much Jesus of Nazareth. He points the way to God and leads people into a journey with God. His role is primarily one of teacher, guide, and example. Jesus’ special status involves his insight into the human condition and the enlightenment he brings to it. There is no enthronement of Jesus at God’s side, only the power of his teaching and example. In this story, the key is that Jesus inspires others, but there is no throne for him. He is one among many – the best, perhaps, and one worthy to learn from and follow.

Biblical Christianity teaches that Jesus Christ is both fully human and fully divine. Thus, Jesus does not need to be “humanized.” As the Apostle Paul taught in Philippians 2:5-11, Jesus humbled Himself to take on full and authentic humanity. So, the real issue in Jesusanity is not humanizing Jesus, but denying His deity. Christianity and Jesusanity tell two different stories and represent two very different faiths. As Bock and Wallace explain:

Both of these stories afford Jesus a great deal of respect, but they are very different stories in regard to his importance. In one, Jesus is worshipped. In the other, he is simply respected. In one, he is intimately associated with God. In the other, he points to God. In one he is the Way. In the other, he shows the way. We cannot understand the public discussion about Jesus without understanding that the discussion entails these two distinct stories.

Dethroning Jesus comes in the wake of much cultural conversation and media attention devoted to the so-called gospels of Judas and Thomas and the collection generally known as the Gnostic gospels. These texts, never accepted by the Church as Scripture, do present very different understandings of Jesus than that taught by the Apostles and confessed by orthodox Christians. These different understandings are now represented by very different portraits of Jesus in the postmodern public square. As Bock and Wallace argue:

The portrait of Jesus in the public square has led to two stories about Jesus, and this despite the fact that both of these stories have often been called Christianity. One is Christianity, while the other is Jesusanity. The distinction between the two stories has surfaced for a variety of reasons, the most relevant of which we have sought to trace in this first overview. Four basic areas have contributed to the rise of these two different portraits of Jesus: (1) historical skepticism, (2) new imagination, (3) cultural factors that have changed how we assess things, and (4) the innate desire in people to seek, cope with or understand the spiritual. Within these four areas are twelve distinct factors: (1) skepticism about institutional religion of all sorts, (2) the rise of higher criticism, (3) the new finds in archaeology, (4) a larger sea change in the way we view history (written by winners/losers), (5) a selective appeal to ancient evidence, (6) the way Christianity is taught in many religious study programs, (7) increasing media attention, (8) the appeal of public-square crossover novels, (9) the intrigue of the pursuit of a spiritual journey, (10) the cultural desire to acknowledge religious diversity, (11) the growing recognition that religion motivates people, and (12) a brittle fundamentalism.

Each of these factors plays a part, but the “increasing media attention” is surely a major factor. Much of this attention is superficial and sloppy. The National Geographic Society, for example, should be embarrassed by its sensationalism in promoting exaggerated and misleading claims about the Gospel of Judas in its magazine and on television. The authors of Dethroning Jesus helpfully debunk many of the confusing claims made in recent years, answering those who assail the integrity of the New Testament and those who promote sensationalistic claims such as the discovery of the “lost tomb of Jesus.”

Of course, more is at stake here than a battle over rival intellectual understandings of Jesus. As Bock and Wallace acknowledge, “Christianity is not Jesusanity for a reason. Jesus is about more than ideas.” We must never depreciate the urgency of getting the doctrine right and understanding Jesus Christ as the Bible presents Him. But Jesus demands faith, not just correct knowledge.

Jesusanity fits the postmodern mind and the postmodern mood, but it cannot save. We really do not know what Christianity is if we do not also understand what it is not.


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#1. To: liberator, CZ82, Don, GarySpFc, TooConservative, tomder55 (#0)

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For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-01-06   16:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: redleghunter (#0)

Jesusanity fits the postmodern mind and the postmodern mood, but it cannot save.

Jesusanity is not Christianity. When you loose essential truth what you have is something else and once again what you have is nothing, froth and bubble. The essential message of Jesus is salvation, the full acceptance of Jesus' message.

Christianity is more than a world view, it is a relationship.

paraclete  posted on  2016-01-06   16:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: paraclete (#2)

Amen

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-01-06   18:32:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: redleghunter (#1)

Interesting. Of course, Christianity does become much more acceptable to Jews and Muslims if you remove the special status of Christ.

Jesus they can stand but never Christ.

I hadn't heard Mohler's name in years.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-06   18:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: redleghunter (#0)

I suppose one of the earliest disciples of Jesusanity was Thomas Jefferson who wasted much time in his later years taking a razor to his copy of the Bible to exclude all miracles by Jesus and most mentions of the supernatural , the Resurrection , and passages indicating Jesus was divine.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2016-01-06   19:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tomder55 (#5)

Yes TJ came to mind.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-01-06   20:14:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: redleghunter (#0)

“Jesusanity” is a coined term for the alternative story about Jesus. Here the center of the story is still Jesus, but Jesus as either a prophet or a teacher of religious wisdom. In Jesusanity, Jesus remains very much Jesus of Nazareth. He points the way to God and leads people into a journey with God. His role is primarily one of teacher, guide, and example. Jesus’ special status involves his insight into the human condition and the enlightenment he brings to it. There is no enthronement of Jesus at God’s side, only the power of his teaching and example. In this story, the key is that Jesus inspires others, but there is no throne for him. He is one among many – the best, perhaps, and one worthy to learn from and follow.

Two verses come to mind:

1. Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

2. Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Those who bypass the Word of God and His word, will hunger and, in most cases, be taking the broad path.

Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous.

BobCeleste  posted on  2016-01-07   7:14:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: paraclete (#2)

Jesusanity is not Christianity.

It is a cult, like mormonism, like JW, like so many that deny the deity of Christ Jesus.

Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous.

BobCeleste  posted on  2016-01-07   7:16:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter (#0)

of you also to the things of others. [5] Have this in your mind, which was also in Christ Jesus, [6] who, existing in the form of God, didn't consider equality with God a thing to be grasped, [7] but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men. [8] And being found in human form, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, yes, the death of the cross. [9] Therefore God also highly exalted him, and gave Philippians 2:4-9

Jesusanity says Jesus emptied Himmself of His deity when He came to earth and took on human form.

"A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is... A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in.” ― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

GarySpFC  posted on  2016-01-07   12:05:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GarySpFC (#9)

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If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2016-01-07   12:12:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BorisY (#10) (Edited)

the fallen weakened nature

What are you implying?

"A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is... A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in.” ― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

GarySpFC  posted on  2016-01-07   12:20:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TooConservative (#4) (Edited)

Interesting. Of course, Christianity does become much more acceptable to Jews and Muslims if you remove the special status of Christ.

Jesus they can stand but never Christ.

I'll settle for Jesus being more acceptable to Christians. I'm sick of this seeker friendly nonsense

Appeasing the views of man by putting man before God will not bring you salvation. There are those who even say they will not use the name of Jesus lest they offend any man but I say if you want to know the truth then you must accept the whole truth otherwise what you have is a lie. There were many who were offended by Jesus when he spoke of being one with the father. There were many who were offended when he said they must eat his flesh and drink his blood. Today there are many who are offended when told that Jesus is the only way

paraclete  posted on  2016-01-07   15:16:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: paraclete (#12)

There were many who were offended by Jesus when he spoke of being one with the father. There were many who were offended when he said they must eat his flesh and drink his blood. Today there are many who are offended when told that Jesus is the only way

Scripture warns that the world will never love Christ or anyone who follows Him.

A lot of Christians are so interested in not offending that others would never know they are Christians at all.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-07   16:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative (#13)

A lot of Christians are so interested in not offending that others would never know they are Christians at all

It is not PC to speak of religious beliefs, I was brought up not to discuss religion or politics and I suspect many others were too. I think this comes from an inability to actually define why you believe what you do

paraclete  posted on  2016-01-07   19:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: paraclete (#14)

Reading the Bible, you don't get the impression that being a secret Christian, especially in a country like America where the repercussions are so few (when compared to the persecutions of the churches through the ages) is what Jesus and the apostles were teaching in the early churches.

How can the Gospels still be the Good News if you keep them a secret? The Gospels offer an answer in parable as I'm sure you know.

14Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. 15Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. 16Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-01-07   19:58:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#15) (Edited)

How can the Gospels still be the Good News if you keep them a secret?

The Gospels offer us hope, hope of salvation, however we have to be aware that we need salvation and that message has been lost in the humanism of recent decades. The problem isn't parables, we have known the meaning of the parables for a long times, the problem is the attraction of materiality and media which draws our attention away from the gospel. Man was commanded not to make images for a reason, we are very drawn to visual represenation and it is very easy for media to preach another gospel. We are told in Scripture that in this age we will be hearing the doctrine of demons and look at the stories portrayed in media and film, are we not listening to the doctrine of demons? and relating these things to each other?

paraclete  posted on  2016-01-07   20:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: civilwarbuff (#0)

Ping

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-03-25   16:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GarySpFC, TooConservative, civilwarbuff (#9)

Watched O'Reillys Killing Jesus last night.

It was a Jesusanity production.

It should be called "Killing Issa."

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-03-25   16:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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